JSngry Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KkMSkmx7sM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Ike on the acoustic guitar, Je Ne Sais Pas Pourquoi Ike, Je Ne Sais Pas Pourquoi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah, I know, but did you hear how they (and just who the hell would "they" be for this, anyway?) remixed Tina's vocal to be way up on top more, more like a conventional pop record? DAMN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Saw the "Ike and Tina show" in Madison, WI - 1971/2. We were in the second row, center and it was magic! Tina's vocals were great and Ike had obviously kicked the band into shape. Never forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah, a lot of people get so focused on the energy and the sexiness of Tina and the dark side of Ike that their combined musical qualities sometimes get overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I know, but did you hear how they (and just who the hell would "they" be for this, anyway?) remixed Tina's vocal to be way up on top more, more like a conventional pop record? DAMN! That was the original mono mix of River Deep, Mountain High that was released as a 45. My hip father bought a copy of that 45 when it first came out and it blew my mind. The mix on the later LP, a primitive early stereo experiment that put Tiny much lower in the mix, always sucked compared to the 45. Unfortunately, most CD reissues have used the LP version. Edited June 15, 2009 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Saw the "Ike and Tina show" in Madison, WI - 1971/2. We were in the second row, center and it was magic! Tina's vocals were great and Ike had obviously kicked the band into shape. Never forget it. Saw the Ike & Tina Review at Harvard Stadium in 1970. Had very good seats, and it remains one of the most exciting and memorable shows I've ever seen. Ike and the very tight band opened with a few instrumentals, and when Tina and the Ikettes hit the stage, the whole audience was on their feet and stayed there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Yeah, I know, but did you hear how they (and just who the hell would "they" be for this, anyway?) remixed Tina's vocal to be way up on top more, more like a conventional pop record? DAMN! That was the original mono mix of River Deep, Mountain High that was released as a 45. My hip father bought a copy of that 45 when it first came out and it blew my mind. The mix on the later LP, a primitive early stereo experiment that put Tiny much lower in the mix, always sucked compared to the 45. Unfortunately, most CD reissues have used the LP version. a-HA! I'ver only once heard the Philles 45 version, and it is as you say - and then some! And I've told everybody since that unless you've heard the 45, you haven't hear "River Deep, Mountain High". This video would of course be an edited version, right, due to the length? I gotta start hunting eBay for a Philles 45.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I know, but did you hear how they (and just who the hell would "they" be for this, anyway?) remixed Tina's vocal to be way up on top more, more like a conventional pop record? DAMN! That was the original mono mix of River Deep, Mountain High that was released as a 45. My hip father bought a copy of that 45 when it first came out and it blew my mind. The mix on the later LP, a primitive early stereo experiment that put Tiny much lower in the mix, always sucked compared to the 45. Unfortunately, most CD reissues have used the LP version. a-HA! I'ver only once heard the Philles 45 version, and it is as you say - and then some! And I've told everybody since that unless you've heard the 45, you haven't hear "River Deep, Mountain High". This video would of course be an edited version, right, due to the length? I gotta start hunting eBay for a Philles 45.... Am I crapping on this thread by saying I find Tina's vocals and mannerisms way too histrionic? It's all release and no tension. Edited June 19, 2009 by Hoppy T. Frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 No you're not crapping on the thread, you're respectfully expressing an honest opinion. No problem. You're wrong, but no problem! (seriously, it's cool) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I find Tina's singing to be more multiorgasmic than histronic. It's all in the way that you feel it. When my father bought me a front row ticket to the Ike and Tina review in 1969 right underneath Tina and the Ikettes mini skirts, man did I FEEL it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I find Tina's singing to be more multiorgasmic than histronic. It's all in the way that you feel it. When my father bought me a front row ticket to the Ike and Tina review in 1969 right underneath Tina and the Ikettes mini skirts, man did I FEEL it. that video was probably from right around that time, John. do you, by any chance, remember seeing those same Ikettes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm very intrigued by where this video might have originated...especially since conventional wisdom has it that Spector paid Ike big bucks to be totally not there for anything having to do with the production of that record. Listening to it again, though...is that not the most perfect, redefining the possibilities of reality pop/soul record ever made? And is it not a crime against humanity that the mono 45 mix has all but vanished from general circulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Having only heard the "submerged vocal" version before, I have to admit that I've always been mystified by this record's renown. Now I get it. Thanks, Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I'm very intrigued by where this video might have originated...especially since conventional wisdom has it that Spector paid Ike big bucks to be totally not there for anything having to do with the production of that record. Listening to it again, though...is that not the most perfect, redefining the possibilities of reality pop/soul record ever made? And is it not a crime against humanity that the mono 45 mix has all but vanished from general circulation? Some internet searching seems to indicate that the mono mix is on the out-of-print Phil Spector retrospective "Back to Mono". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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