Chuck Nessa Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Official July release will be here (for sale) in a couple of weeks: ncd-2 Roscoe Mitchell Congliptious. New 24 bit remastering of material from the Art Ensemble 1967/68 box. All takes from the sessions in question. ncd-17/18 Bobby Bradford with John Stevens and the Spontaneous Music Ensemble. Both lps in a 2 disc package - no extra takes. Includes original notes on the session by Max Harrison and a new note from Bobby Bradford. The next pair (Sept releases available for order earlier) will be a 2 disc version of Lester Bowie's Numbers 1&2 called All the Numbers. This will include all the versions previously issued in the AE box in new 24 bit remasters. This will be ncd-31/32. At the same time we will reissue (Wadada) Leo Smith's Spirit Catcher with an alternate version of The Burning of Stones - this is the piece for muted trumpet and 3 harps. This will be ncd-19. email nessarecords@charter.net for catalog and prices. More than Blue Note is offering. Edited October 6, 2009 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 :tup :tup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 More than Blue Note is offering. And I trust all the names will be spelled correctly. Looking forward to the Bobby Bradford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robviti Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 congratulations, and thank you for making this great music available, even though... we're not worthy, we're not worthy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I've heard the Leo Smith. It's ridiculous. Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 More than Blue Note is offering. And I trust all the names will be spelled correctly. Looking forward to the Bobby Bradford! Booby Bradford? Recently saw him live with Frode Gjerstad's Circulasione Totale Orchestra, he turned in some great solos! Will get that and the Wadada (and I guess skip the others as I have the Art Ensemble 5CD set) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Can't wait for these to be out. And hey, 24-bit & original artwork is fine by me (even though I have the box and the LPs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Awesome! Looking forward to the AEC and Roscoe Mitchell discs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can't wait for these to be out. And hey, 24-bit & original artwork is fine by me (even though I have the box and the LPs). Yeah, I've been having second thoughts... Chuck, how do the new Bowie/Mitchell/Art Ensemble reissues compare? Much of a difference, or would you say the box is fine enough? (I'm sure it is, actually! But still...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I'm very glad to see some or all of the Art Ensemble box come out as individual issues. The box was a great thing in its time but also made it harder for the curious to dabble. I certainly don't love everything played on these sessions, and to my mind less is more and first editing thoughts were best. It might also be thought that some of this music is less accomplished than later AEoC offerings, but I don't really agree. To my mind these are ur-texts of musical surrealism, and for that reason more interesting than much of what followed. I felt the box perhaps obscured what was valid in the set by including items such as warm-ups that only had a documentary value. Recasting the set as individual CDs might make clearer to listeners what was first selected for LP release - something that the box set leaflet did not make clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I'm very glad to see some or all of the Art Ensemble box come out as individual issues. The box was a great thing in its time but also made it harder for the curious to dabble. I certainly don't love everything played on these sessions, and to my mind less is more and first editing thoughts were best. It might also be thought that some of this music is less accomplished than later AEoC offerings, but I don't really agree. To my mind these are ur-texts of musical surrealism, and for that reason more interesting than much of what followed. I felt the box perhaps obscured what was valid in the set by including items such as warm-ups that only had a documentary value. Recasting the set as individual CDs might make clearer to listeners what was first selected for LP release - something that the box set leaflet did not make clear. Good point and I agree. However, I understand that the upcoming individual CD issues will include the extra material that was released in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmirBagachelles Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 AEC, Leo Smith, Bobby Bradford, and John Stevens. In my wheelhouse, though it's really Nessa hitting for the cycle here though. Thanks Chuck for caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Can't wait for these to be out. And hey, 24-bit & original artwork is fine by me (even though I have the box and the LPs). Yeah, I've been having second thoughts... Chuck, how do the new Bowie/Mitchell/Art Ensemble reissues compare? Much of a difference, or would you say the box is fine enough? (I'm sure it is, actually! But still...) I'd be happy to have it in all forms, myself. But then I really like the early AEC period a lot. Ayers' point about the notes is good, too (though I never really had a problem w/ the original note to my recollection). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Well, now I am confused. Chuck, is there any music on these new Roscoe Mitchell and Lester Bowie releases which is not on the Art Ensemble 67/68 box? Edited June 3, 2009 by Hot Ptah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 No material on the reissues that wasn't in the box. Eventually all material in the box will be reissued on four single discs and one double. All the material is being remastered - technical advances in the last 16 years made it seem worthwhile. YMMV. David makes a reasonable point about some of the extra material but one with which I ultimately disagreed. It is a situation in which I am damned if I do or don't. I have already had a couple of complaints from customers who purchased the single disc (Japanese) version of Numbers 1&2 and were upset they didn't get all the material from those sessions. I do think the box as a concept causes one to lose focus on the individual sessions and feel some of the "new" music in the box didn't receive the attention it deserved. Anyway, I opted for all over less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the explanation, Chuck. What will the track sequence be, first the original album followed by the extra material, or? Edited June 3, 2009 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 No material on the reissues that wasn't in the box. Eventually all material in the box will be reissued on four single discs and one double. All the material is being remastered - technical advances in the last 16 years made it seem worthwhile. YMMV. David makes a reasonable point about some of the extra material but one with which I ultimately disagreed. It is a situation in which I am damned if I do or don't. I have already had a couple of complaints from customers who purchased the single disc (Japanese) version of Numbers 1&2 and were upset they didn't get all the material from those sessions. I do think the box as a concept causes one to lose focus on the individual sessions and feel some of the "new" music in the box didn't receive the attention it deserved. Anyway, I opted for all over less. Thanks, Chuck. It's all great music which everyone should own one or more copies of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the explanation, Chuck. What will the track sequence be, first the original album followed by the extra material, or? ncd-2 Congliptious tray info Roscoe Mitchell – alto, soprano and bass saxophones, flute, recorder, gong and “little instruments” Lester Bowie – trumpet, flugelhorn, steer horn, bass whistle, bass drum, siren, gong and “little instruments” Malachi Favors – bass, electric bass, electric guitar, zither, gong and “little instruments” Robert Crowder – drums and gong 1 Tutankhamen (bass solo) 6:38 (Favors) 2 TKHKE (alto saxophone solo) 7:32 (Mitchell) 3 Jazz Death? (trumpet solo) 7:20 (Bowie) 4 Carefree - take 3 2:35 * (Mitchell) 5 Tatas-Matoes 2:17 * (Bowie) 6 Congliptious / Old 19:30 (Mitchell) 7 Carefree – take 1 3:05 * 8 Carefree – take 2 3:05* Tracks 1-3 recorded March 4, 1968 at Ter-Mar (Chess) Studios by Stu Black and Ron Malo Tracks 4-8 recorded March 11, 1968 at Ter-Mar Studios by Stu Black Production / Chuck Nessa Photography / Terry Martin Original cover / Tanenbaum Design Art Direction & design / Carla Nessa * These pieces were not included in the original issue and first appeared in the Art Ensemble 1967/68 box set The lp order was tracks 1,2, 3 & 6. The Bowie set will be divided by session (a trio disc and a quartet disc) in session order. Edited June 6, 2009 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I'm in. Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Bradford/Stevens – tray copy nessa ncd-17/18 disc A 1 His Majesty Louis (11:06) (Bradford) 2 Bridget’s Mother (6:51) (Bradford/Watts) 3 Room 408 (7:25) (Bradford) 4 Tolerance / To Bob (18:05) (Stevens) disc B 1 Trane Ride / Ornette-ment / Doo Dee (13:27) (Stevens) 2 Norway (7:08) (Stevens) 3 Rhythm Piece (17:40) (Stevens) 4 Fragment (1:56) (Stevens) Bobby Bradford – trumpet Trevor Watts – alto & soprano saxophones Bob Norden – trombone Julie Tippetts – voice & guitar Ron Herman – bass John Stevens – drums, percussion & voice Recorded at Polydor Studios, London on July 9, 1971 Engineer – Carlos Olms Recording produced by Alan Bates Produced for release by Chuck Nessa Transfers and mastering – Steve Wagner Photography – David Redfern Art direction & design by Carla Nessa P & C 1974, 1980, 1981 & 2009 Nessa Records FWIW, the group shifts from trios to quartet, quintet and sextet during the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Oh...it's a juggernaut. I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Interested parties can find a review of our last releases (Charles Tyler & Wadada) in the new Signal to Noise. Stuart Broomer is the writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Oh...it's a juggernaut. Iowa's where it first began to gain momentum, observers say. Chuck, I'm betting you're going to land on a lot of "reissue of the year" lists with more than one title. I'm especially grateful for the Tyler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Now available: Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble - Congliptious - ncd-2 - $15 Bobby Bradford/John Stevens Spontaneous Music Ensemble - ncd-17/18 - $23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Chuck: Don't be shy. Tell us how to order them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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