sal Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Just received "One Too Many Salty Swift And Not Goodbye" from Jazz Loft, and have been listening to it all morning. Wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Skid Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 (edited) I'm always glad to see this thread pop up again... gonna go put "Salty Swift" in the CD player right now! Edited January 19, 2008 by Uncle Skid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Someone started a Web site for Cecil, www.cecil-taylor.com, and things were looking good there at first, but the concert listings have not been maintained. It doesn't look like they paid the rent on it lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 This info is courtesy of Margaret Davis via the CT list.... From http://www.bluenote.net/newyork/schedule/m...nfo.cgi?id=5837 CECIL TAYLOR AHA 3 2OO8-O1-31, 8 PM $2O cover at bar, $35 at table Blue Note 131 West 3rd St New York, NY 1OO12 212-475-8592 club@bluenote.net www.bluenote.net Produced by Jill Newman Productions Don't miss the chance to see this incredible jazz pianist for one night only with his trio at the end of January! Cecil Taylor AHA 3 FEATURING: Cecil Taylor, piano Other musicians, TBA "Practice, to be studious at the instrument, as well as looking at a bridge, or dancing, or writing a poem, or reading, or attempting to make your home more beautiful. What goes into an improvisation is what goes into one's preparation, then allowing the prepared senses to execute at the highest level devoid of psychological or logical interference. You ask, without logic, where does the form come from? It seems something that may be forgotten is that as we begin our day and proceed through it there is a form in existence that we create out of, that the day and night itself is for. And what we choose to vary in the daily routine provides in itself the fresh building blocks to construct a living form which is easily translated into a specific act of making a musical composition. " - Cecil Taylor Cecil Taylor has been an uncompromising creative force who is a testament to his own existence and personal experience since his earliest recordings in the 1950's. In the 1960's, his music would become a leading exponent, along with that of John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman, of the budding "free-jazz" movement. This movement shook the very foundations on which jazz music was securely resting and marks a major turning point in the history of the music that challenged the structures of form and the tonal harmonic system. Taylor has said of his characteristic rhythmic playing that he tries "to imitate on the piano the leaps in space a dancer makes" and his orchestral facility on the piano has allowed him to innovate new musical textures in small ensemble performance. Taylor's playing has always been technically sophisticated, but as he once said, "technique is a weapon to do whatever must be done". The personnel in his bands over his almost five decades in jazz comprises a list of astounding talent including: Steve Lacy, Jimmy Lyons, Albert Ayler, Buell Neidlinger, Dennis Charles, Archie Shepp, William Parker, Max Roach, Tony Williams, Mark Helias, Mary Lou Williams, and Bill Dixon. Additionally, he has worked with several notable dancers and choreographers including composing music for Diane McIntyre, Mikhail Barishnokov, and Heather Watts. While his music has always been controversial to mainstream audiences, he has always been totally true to his artistic vision, and this has extended into all aspects of his life including his passions for reading, dance, theatre, and architecture. He is also an accomplished poet, and has incorporated this talent into many of his performances and recordings. Born in New York on March 15, 1929, Cecil Taylor began playing piano and at the age of five at the encouragement of his mother. From 1951-1955 he attended the New England Conservatory where he concentrated in piano and music theory. His early professional career began working with Hot Lips Page and Johnny Hodges (c. 1953). In 1955 he formed a quartet with Steve Lacy and soon released his first important album, Jazz Avance (1956). An engagement shortly after at the Five Spot helped to establish the Greenwich Village club as a forum for East Coast new jazz. During this period he also made an appearance at the Newport Jazz Festival and the Great South Bay Jazz Festival. In 1960 his "free-jazz" quartet controversially temporarily replaced a "hard-bop" band in the play The Connection. In 1962 he was awarded Downbeat's "new star" award for pianists while ironically unable to get work for most of the 60's. He claims he was forced to live on welfare for at least five years during this period. In 1964 he took part in the October Revolution in Jazz, a series of New York City Concerts self-sponsored by Bill Dixon's Jazz Composers Guild (consisting mostly of musicians of the avant-garde variety). In the 70's, he briefly taught at Antioch College, the University of Wisconsin, and Glassboro State College in New Jersey. Virtually all of Taylor's recorded music between 1967 and 1977 was recorded and released in Europe. After 1973, his career began to gain momentum and he began to tour regularly as a solo pianist and leading his own groups. He was also awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship and ran his own record label named Unit Core. In 1975 he was elected into the Down Beat Hall of Fame. In 1979 he composed music for the play "Tetra Stomp: Eatn' Rain in Space". In the late 70's and early 80's Taylor began to collaborate with Diane McIntyre and her dance company Sound In Motion. This company focused on combining jazz and spoken poetry into dance. In 1988 he was honored with a month-long festival of his music in Berlin, involving many of Europe's prominent avant-garde jazz musicians. In 1990 he was named a NEA Jazz Master and in 1991 he was awarded a McArthur Foundation "genius" grant-in-aid, which provided him with considerable financial security. He was not invited to play at Jazz at Lincoln Center because of certain accusations that his music did not fit into the artistic directors' definition of "jazz", so he rented Alice Tully Hall and gave an unaccompanied piano concert, which won him a considerable amount of critical acclaim. In October of that year he gave a concert with orchestral accompaniment in San Francisco and in 1999 he appeared at a Library of Congress concert in Washington, D.C. Taylor, now in his 77th year, continues to compose music and poetry. At a time in his career when most artists of his stature could sustain themselves with a victory lap of regurgitating the past or to slip into silent retirement, Taylor continues to push new boundaries with his art. Taylor is unquestionably an artist of the highest rank, and a direct link to America's art music. His very personal and distinct artistic vision has taken him through much innovative and unexplored musical territory, demanding much of his listeners but also providing content that can be enjoyed. The musical world is awaiting the next step of Cecil Taylor. - AAJ # # # [NOTE: Cecil invited Henry Grimes to play this concert, but Henry has a previous commitment that requires him to be in Europe on January 31st.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 This info is courtesy of Margaret Davis via the CT list.... There's a CT list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 This info is courtesy of Margaret Davis via the CT list.... There's a CT list? http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/CTResearch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 thnx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmargaret Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 To put it bluntly, the "CTResearch" list seems to be mostly people involved in furtive concert taping without asking the musicians or venues for permission, and swapping the tapes, and maybe in some cases bootlegging (meaning selling) them. That stuff is zero percent cool with me. But once in a while I post in a concert listing to that list, hoping that a few ticket sales will result from people who genuinely want to hear Cecil Taylor play in person. In case you're in Austria (or can get there), at www.porgy.at/e-index.html, there's a listing for Cecil Taylor and Tony Oxley on Sunday, February 24th at 8:3O p.m. (2O:3O) at the club Porgy and Bess, Riemergasse 11, A-1O1O Vienna, Austria, +43 1 5O3 7O O9, tickets and reservations +43 1 512 88 11, www.porgy.at, ticket@porgy.at, porgy@porgy.at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Thanks Margaret. Next time you see Cecil, please give him my greetings. How are you folks doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 To put it bluntly, the "CTResearch" list seems to be mostly people involved in furtive concert taping without asking the musicians or venues for permission, and swapping the tapes, and maybe in some cases bootlegging (meaning selling) them. That stuff is zero percent cool with me. That's news to me. I still haven't been approved for the list yet, so I haven't seen it. I wouldn't pay for a boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmargaret Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 We're doing fine, Chuck, and thanks for asking. We think of you and Ann often and hope to be back in Michigan one fine day soon. Henry has rehearsals next week for Marc Ribot's Spiritual Unity tour, taking place in Europe the first part of February (tour details can be seen at www.henrygrimes.com and click on the "schedule" button). We fly to Norway on January 29th, which is why Henry couldn't join Cecil Taylor at the Blue Note on the 31st. We've lots of big plans for the rest of 2OO8, but I shouldn't really be posting them into this particular thread. But are you releasing any new recordings on your wonderful label? If so, let's be in touch about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 To put it bluntly, the "CTResearch" list seems to be mostly people involved in furtive concert taping without asking the musicians or venues for permission, and swapping the tapes, and maybe in some cases bootlegging (meaning selling) them. That stuff is zero percent cool with me. But once in a while I post in a concert listing to that list, hoping that a few ticket sales will result from people who genuinely want to hear Cecil Taylor play in person. I'm not involved with the "CTResearch" group, but I am not so sure that trading among collectors is a bad thing. Profiting is something else, but tape-trading among fans and scholars I can't frown upon. Especially artists like Cecil, whose music demands careful study but who hasn't always had the benefit of record companies willing to release his music. Not having been around the music in 1966, it's great to hear such an important transitional piece as "Amplitude" on "bootlegs," not to mention write about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 CECIL TAYLOR New York Society for Ethical Culture, JVF Fest review Has Cecil Taylor mellowed with age? For all Mr. Taylor’s virtuosity as a pianist and originality as an improviser, his concerts have sometimes been so unrelentingly intense that they seemed as much assault as performance. His solo recital at the New York Society for Ethical Culture on Friday night, part of the JVC Jazz Festival, felt more like an embrace. Mr. Taylor owes stylistic debts to Duke Ellington and Thelonious Monk, but his music has always been so defiantly sui generis that after more than half a century there are still those who question whether it can even be called jazz. Finding a way into it can be an effort for some listeners; easy handles — a sustained melody line, a steady beat — are rare. It would be a stretch to characterize his Friday performance as accessible in any conventional sense. But for much of his hour at the piano the music was, to use a word not always associated with Mr. Taylor, pretty. All the hallmarks of his style were there: ominously rumbling bass lines, breathtakingly rapid runs, percussive tone clusters. But there were also numerous passages of quiet delicacy, and more than a few deftly deployed silences. The violent torrents of notes that are a Taylor specialty were in short supply; more often the music simply flowed, elegantly and peacefully. While it hardly sounded as if Mr. Taylor had lost his edge, it did sound as if he had found a way to emphasize the lyricism that has long been an important if underappreciated color in his palette, and to temper his intensity without damping his fire. Maybe this is just the way an enfant terrible sounds as he approaches 80. Mr. Taylor’s fellow pianist George Cables, also playing unaccompanied, opened the evening. Mr. Cables is not as daring an improviser as Mr. Taylor; few if any jazz pianists are. But while staying solidly grounded in post-bop concepts of harmony and rhythm, he left a pleasingly personal mark on a selection of original compositions and familiar standards, notably an uncharacteristically high-energy “ ’Round Midnight.” PETER KEEPNEWS, NY Times June 23, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 CT w/ Tony Oxley July 15-20 at the Village Vanguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATR Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Up for refreshed reading, and wondering what you all thought of these recordings: Just happened to see this post, and I realize it's quite old. Two great CT recordings. Akisakila was a two record set documenting the trio in Japan with Cyrille and Lyons. There was a companion record of CT solo. This is the first version of the Unit I heard live, and the recording is essential. Live in the Black Forest is the same band as the New World studio recordings and One Too Many... Features Ronald Shannon Jackson, Lyons, Sirone, Ramsey Ameen on violin, and Raphe Malik on trumpet. More concise than One Two Many, and equally essential. I've never seen it on CD, and only seen Akisakila as an expensive import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Pardon my French, Organauts, but are you fucking dense 7/4, or a rebel without a clue? Jealous because you're apparently incapable of expression anybody would even bother to steal, let alone pay for? If that's "harsh," consider the reality where NOBODY is paying Peter Keepnews to write about anything. I was under the impression-- mistaken, apparently-- that Mark Stryker clarified this once and for all. It's amazing to me some of the fights that go on here and this nonsense is tolerated month-after-month, year-after-year. As I said previously, I've often worked in the newspaper racket and while I really don't care about copyright in this case, 7/4 and other thoughtless people like him are screwing things up for everyone who cares to read about anything. That you just swiped however many page views/minutes away from Peter Keepnews, who's vastly superior to both his father and most nitwits who write about Our Music makes it even worse. Chill, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 PRESIDENT GIVES GOOD SPEECH UPI OCTOBER 4, 1865 by Wendell Hooperslopper President Lincoln gave a speech recently in which, according to him: "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Pardon my French, Organauts, but are you fucking dense 7/4, or a rebel without a clue? Jealous because you're apparently incapable of expression anybody would even bother to steal, let alone pay for? If that's "harsh," consider the reality where NOBODY is paying Peter Keepnews to write about anything. I was under the impression-- mistaken, apparently-- that Mark Stryker clarified this once and for all. It's amazing to me some of the fights that go on here and this nonsense is tolerated month-after-month, year-after-year. As I said previously, I've often worked in the newspaper racket and while I really don't care about copyright in this case, 7/4 and other thoughtless people like him are screwing things up for everyone who cares to read about anything. That you just swiped however many page views/minutes away from Peter Keepnews, who's vastly superior to both his father and most nitwits who write about Our Music makes it even worse. Clem, you sound restless, irritable and discontent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Clem, you sound restless, irritable and discontent. In other words, same as always.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 FYI.... Cecil will be appearing in San Francisco this October. http://www.sfjazz.org/concerts/2008/fall/artists/Taylor.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 (and this Shawn poster in monkey see monkey duh mode) Okay Chauncey, Clem, whatever you're calling yourself this week...got a great idea, why don't you go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I like the Cecil/Maneri duo, too. Funny enough I can't seem to locate my copy of it. When I reviewed the disc for AAJ, it took approximately two days for comments to be posted about how Cecil's work wasn't "jazz" or even "music." Clearly, that line of thinking still rages on, even though it's not given much space in print these days. There are numerous repostings from the NYT here by posters other than 7/4. I believe that in this case, it was chosen to emphasize the section on Cecil, which in the article as a whole was rather small. The 'net sure does make those "fair use" argument kinda slinky, don't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I don't live in New York and don't read newspapers as a rule, so the re-postings of articles are welcome. I'm not going to get caught up in copyright arguments...I suffered through copyright law in college and learned just enough to know that it basically makes no sense whatsoever. But, since re-posting a jazz article from the Times might convince someone they need to purchase a subscription to the paper...then in my opinion it falls under fair use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 FYI.... Cecil will be appearing in San Francisco this October. http://www.sfjazz.org/concerts/2008/fall/artists/Taylor.asp HELL TO THE YES. Thank you, J.H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 The two times I heard Cecil, I was surprised by how quiet he was...it's been a few years, but I think both gigs were 5-10 years ago. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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