mjzee Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 In honor of the recent Keith Jarrett thread (in which we fought back and won!), this thread is to detail other famous, beloved pianists who do a lot of grunting as they pound, tickle, or caress the ivories. I'm listening now to "Shiny Stockings" by Earl Hines, from Live In Orange. Some mighty impressive grunting here, as well as much singing along with the notes and assents ("Uh huh!"). A lot of fun. Anybody else have favorites? Quote
paul secor Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 On "idaho" (Xanadu), a duet with Johnny Griffin, Bud Powell grunts and moans like an mf. Quote
marcello Posted May 3, 2009 Report Posted May 3, 2009 Piano Players aren't the only grunters. Dave Pike had a record out with Cedar's trio that was very good but the grunting from Pike makes it almost a pain to hear. Elvin could grunt his ass off too. Quote
JohnS Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 Masbumi Kikuchi, grunts with the best of them Quote
sidewinder Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Bud Powell on that Columbia live Monk Tribute album ! Elvin could grunt his ass off too. His rendition of 'It Don't Mean A Thing..' had Elvin on grunt in the front line. Edited May 4, 2009 by sidewinder Quote
Rosco Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 Elvin could grunt his ass off too. Wasn't Trane's quartet full of grunters? Some of Garrison's solos are accompanied by a strange, rhythmic whining. Quote
save0904 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 Kurt Rosenwinkel is also a big grunter :-) Quote
Free For All Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 Elvin could grunt his ass off too. Wasn't Trane's quartet full of grunters? Some of Garrison's solos are accompanied by a strange, rhythmic whining. Ah yes, the infamous Gruntet. Quote
blajay Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 Bud Powell is definitely my favorite. I'll have to listen again to remember which is my favorite of his sessions for grunting haha. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 How come nobody has mentioned Oscar Peterson yet? Quote
Dave James Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 In the past, I've made no bones about my reaction to grunters. At best, it's a distracting habit and, at worst, incredibly selfish. It makes me wonder how the grunters among us rationalize their behavior, which leads me to a question. Why do they do this? Is it an honest affectation, a sign of really getting into what one is doing or is it some sort of copy cat behavior, an homage to those who they respect as musicians, i.e. does Jarrett grunt because Bud Powell grunted? Or does he writhe around the keyboard like he's having some sort of petite mal seizure because Monk did the same sort of thing? Or is this like women's tennis in a post-Monica Seles world where if you're not grunting, you're not giving it your absolute best? Is there any record of anyone actually asking Jarrett or any of his ilk why they do what they do, or would someone who is in a position to ask this question not do so in deference to their respect for a particular musician, or, in the case of Jarrett, in deference to their own well being? Assuming the question has actually been asked and answered, the logical follow-up would be how they feel this plays with those who have to listen to and tolerate their warbling. Enquiring minds want to know. Up over and out. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 In the past, I've made no bones about my reaction to grunters. At best, it's a distracting habit and, at worst, incredibly selfish. It makes me wonder how the grunters among us rationalize their behavior, which leads me to a question. Why do they do this? Is it an honest affectation, a sign of really getting into what one is doing or is it some sort of copy cat behavior, an homage to those who they respect as musicians, i.e. does Jarrett grunt because Bud Powell grunted? Or does he writhe around the keyboard like he's having some sort of petite mal seizure because Monk did the same sort of thing? Or is this like women's tennis in a post-Monica Seles world where if you're not grunting, you're not giving it your absolute best? Is there any record of anyone actually asking Jarrett or any of his ilk why they do what they do, or would someone who is in a position to ask this question not do so in deference to their respect for a particular musician, or, in the case of Jarrett, in deference to their own well being? Assuming the question has actually been asked and answered, the logical follow-up would be how they feel this plays with those who have to listen to and tolerate their warbling. Enquiring minds want to know. Up over and out. Zappa expressed thoughts similar to yours on "Make a Jazz Noise Here", although his were more succinct. Quote
Free For All Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 In the past, I've made no bones about my reaction to grunters. At best, it's a distracting habit and, at worst, incredibly selfish. It makes me wonder how the grunters among us rationalize their behavior, which leads me to a question. Why do they do this? Is it an honest affectation, a sign of really getting into what one is doing or is it some sort of copy cat behavior, an homage to those who they respect as musicians, i.e. does Jarrett grunt because Bud Powell grunted? Or does he writhe around the keyboard like he's having some sort of petite mal seizure because Monk did the same sort of thing? Or is this like women's tennis in a post-Monica Seles world where if you're not grunting, you're not giving it your absolute best? Is there any record of anyone actually asking Jarrett or any of his ilk why they do what they do, or would someone who is in a position to ask this question not do so in deference to their respect for a particular musician, or, in the case of Jarrett, in deference to their own well being? Assuming the question has actually been asked and answered, the logical follow-up would be how they feel this plays with those who have to listen to and tolerate their warbling. Enquiring minds want to know. Up over and out. Zappa expressed thoughts similar to yours on "Make a Jazz Noise Here", although his were more succinct. David appears to be disgruntled. Quote
DukeCity Posted May 4, 2009 Report Posted May 4, 2009 In the past, I've made no bones about my reaction to grunters. At best, it's a distracting habit and, at worst, incredibly selfish. It makes me wonder how the grunters among us rationalize their behavior, which leads me to a question. Why do they do this? Is it an honest affectation, a sign of really getting into what one is doing or is it some sort of copy cat behavior, an homage to those who they respect as musicians, i.e. does Jarrett grunt because Bud Powell grunted? Or does he writhe around the keyboard like he's having some sort of petite mal seizure because Monk did the same sort of thing? Or is this like women's tennis in a post-Monica Seles world where if you're not grunting, you're not giving it your absolute best? Is there any record of anyone actually asking Jarrett or any of his ilk why they do what they do, or would someone who is in a position to ask this question not do so in deference to their respect for a particular musician, or, in the case of Jarrett, in deference to their own well being? Assuming the question has actually been asked and answered, the logical follow-up would be how they feel this plays with those who have to listen to and tolerate their warbling. Enquiring minds want to know. Up over and out. Zappa expressed thoughts similar to yours on "Make a Jazz Noise Here", although his were more succinct. David appears to be disgruntled. Why is it we use the word "disgruntled" but we never hear about anybody being "gruntled"? Quote
Dan Gould Posted May 5, 2009 Report Posted May 5, 2009 disgruntled One entry found. Main Entry: dis·grun·tle Listen to the pronunciation of disgruntle Pronunciation: \dis-ˈgrən-təl\ Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): dis·grun·tled; dis·grun·tling Listen to the pronunciation of disgruntling \-ˈgrənt-liŋ, -ˈgrən-təl-iŋ\ Etymology: dis- + gruntle to grumble, from Middle English gruntlen, frequentative of grunten to grunt Date: 1682 Quote
Dave James Posted May 5, 2009 Report Posted May 5, 2009 Why is it we use the word "disgruntled" but we never hear about anybody being "gruntled"? I've often wondered why it's possible to be inscrutable, but not scrutable. Dan? Up over and out. Quote
Free For All Posted May 5, 2009 Report Posted May 5, 2009 That Kelly Ripa is totally scrutable. Quote
Dave James Posted May 5, 2009 Report Posted May 5, 2009 That Kelly Ripa is totally scrutable. Up over and out. Quote
mjzee Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Posted June 3, 2009 Some good whinnying singalong by Stephen Scott on Sonny Rollins "Without A Song - The 9/11 Concert," for example on the track Where Or When. Oh yeah, excellent playing, too. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 6, 2009 Report Posted June 6, 2009 EARL HINES EARNED THE RIGHT TO GRUNT Quote
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