Beatles Remasters coming! 09/09/09

[Brad]

I'll still take Revolver. Taxman is one of my all-time favorites. Great lyrics. I've always thought that this album was the coming out party for George Harrison as a songwriter. Not to mention what a watershed "moment" it was in terms of how The Beatles would go about creating the rest of their music.

Both are at the top of my list.

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

Hendrix opening for the Monkees is definitely odd!

[jazzbo]

After Monterey, though Hendrix had gotten lots of attention he really didn't have the promotion for a tour of his own. So the Monkees offered (some of them had heard and admired Jimi in Greenwhich Village before he went to England) an opening act spot ahd Jimi opened for the Monkees at seven concerts. There were more planned for the tour, but the Monkees fans didn't take to Jimi and Jimi got sick of the fans screaming for "Davey"!

In the meantime, Jimi's "Purple Haze" single had been building momentum on the chart and Jimi and the Monkees agreed to part ways. I think it was the Monkees management that fabricated a complaint by the Daughters of the American Revolution about Jimi's act and its risque nature that supposedly precipitated the parting. That lie was apparently easily sold and believed.

[JSngry]

Didn't Hendrix then begin headlining w/Soft Machine opening, or something like that?

[Dave James]

Didn't Hendrix then begin headlining w/Soft Machine opening, or something like that?

Check this out: http://www.garagehangover.com/?q=Dome

Also a CD:

Jimi Hendrix With Soft Machine - Southeby Reel With Soft Machine

Format: CD, Unofficial Release

Tracklist

1 Soft Machine Jam I 8:50

2 Castles Made Of Sand 2:58

3 Spanish Castle Magic 2:48

4 Instrumental Jam I 4:52

5 Have You Ever Been (To Electric Ladyland) (Instrumental) 5:06

6 Wait Until Tomorrow 3:28

7 Instrumental Jam II 3:45

Featuring - Brian Jones (5)

8 Instrumental Jam III 3:50

Featuring - Brian Jones (5)

9 One Rainy Wish 3:57

10 Soft Machine Jam II 3:45

11 Soft Machine Jam III 4:39

12 She's So Fine 2:43

13 Bold As Love 3:39

14 Belly Button Window 13:19

15 Instrumental Jam IV 6:24

Edited January 14, 2010 by Dave James

[kw21925]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

[Matthew]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular. Loved the album also, like a lot of others said already, the songs on it have not been played to death over the years. It sounded very fresh.

[Teasing the Korean]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular.

You must love vocals and inaudible instruments.

[Alexander]

Finally got my hands on the Stereo set, who the hell designed this horrendous packaging ? The cdS have as much of an hard time staying in their case than Mariah Carey's body in her dress at the People's Choice awards.

Ba-dump-dump!

"I'll be here all week. Try the veal."

[Man with the Golden Arm]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular.

You must love vocals and inaudible instruments.

I recall when looking at the post release mayhem on the SH board that this title was the unanimous best of all the lot re: stereo vs mono. hmmm.

[felser]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

[JETman]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

I agree. I saw him at Shea Stadium in 1976, opening for Robin Trower opening for Jethro Tull. It was a killer show with Trower supporting Bridge of Sighs and Tull supporting Too Old to Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die.

Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention that this was the first concert I attended.

[kw21925]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

Sorry, what were you saying? I'm a million miles away.

[felser]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

Sorry, what were you saying? I'm a million miles away.

Ask the tattoo'd lady and the bearded baby, they're my family :-).

[Cliff Englewood]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

Sorry, what were you saying? I'm a million miles away.

Ask the tattoo'd lady and the bearded baby, they're my family :-).

You were a million miles away???? I was too but in fairness I'd just been walking on hot coals, twice.

[kw21925]

If I recall correctly, Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees at the Memorial Coliseum right here in Portland, Oregon. I did not see that concert. The worst pairing I have personally witnessed was Albert King opening for The Kinks. King literally blew the roof off the old Paramount Theater leaving nothing but scorched earth for the boys from Muswell Hill.

In 1975, the great Rory Gallagher was touring the US as the opening act for Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I didn't see the show, but I've seen Rory's Montreux Festival performance from 1975 on DVD. How those hacks from BTO followed that, I'll never know.

Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 DVD (and CD) is also not to be missed. What a monster musician he was, one of THE great guitar players, from such an early age (what was he, 20 when the first Taste albums came out?). Hard to believe he passed so young.

Sorry, what were you saying? I'm a million miles away.

Ask the tattoo'd lady and the bearded baby, they're my family :-).

You were a million miles away???? I was too but in fairness I'd just been walking on hot coals, twice.

Thanks for the links. I'd never seen the Madrid footage of "Hot Coals"-just amazing!

I don't want to be accused of hijacking this thread away from the Beatles, so let me just say: John Lennon was a big Rory Gallagher fan (it's true)!

[WorldB3]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular.

You must love vocals and inaudible instruments.

I recall when looking at the post release mayhem on the SH board that this title was the unanimous best of all the lot re: stereo vs mono. hmmm.

I believe TTK has stated he hasn't hear any of the 09 remasters yet. His comment is correct regarding previous stereo versions of For Sale however I agree with you and the posters on the Hoffman forums that the 09 Stereo of For Sale is spectacular.

Having spent time with both the mono and stereo boxes there are only two slam dunks as far as one album only sounds best in only one format all the way through re: stereo vs mono. Those are For Sale in Stereo and Rubber Soul in Mono. Even Peppers as mind blowing as the Mono is I still prefer Within Without You and Day In The Life in Stereo,

[Matthew]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular.

You must love vocals and inaudible instruments.

I recall when looking at the post release mayhem on the SH board that this title was the unanimous best of all the lot re: stereo vs mono. hmmm.

I believe TTK has stated he hasn't hear any of the 09 remasters yet. His comment is correct regarding previous stereo versions of For Sale however I agree with you and the posters on the Hoffman forums that the 09 Stereo of For Sale is spectacular.

Having spent time with both the mono and stereo boxes there are only two slam dunks as far as one album only sounds best in only one format all the way through re: stereo vs mono. Those are For Sale in Stereo and Rubber Soul in Mono. Even Peppers as mind blowing as the Mono is I still prefer Within Without You and Day In The Life in Stereo,

The remastered cd is a vast improvement over the '89 version. What I really like about BFS is that it has a unique sound to it, it's just has a different feel to it then other Beatles' albums.

[WorldB3]

The remastered cd is a vast improvement over the '89 version. What I really like about BFS is that it has a unique sound to it, it's just has a different feel to it then other Beatles' albums.

I agree with you that part of its appeal is that it hasn't been overplayed and sounds different enough from the records that preceded and followed it. While I don't consider it their best I will say its now one of my favorites.

Edited January 31, 2010 by WorldB3

[JSngry]

Listening to Paul sing those high notes, he'd have been a great lead trumpeter. At least he sings like one.

Edited February 12, 2010 by JSngry

[David Ayers]

I just read Ian MacDonald's book on Shostakovich. I don't propose to read the Beatles book which some of you guys seem to like. MacDonald is an amateur and a hack. He was absolutely unqualified to write a book on Shostakovich. He did not know music, was not a historian or intellectual, he knew no Russian and could not access even basic documents. Everything in the book is plagiarised from other sources, principally the faked Testimony. The only original parts are the callow and impressionistic descriptions of music (um, bit like reading crappy jazz CD liner notes). I found myself shocked that something so shallow and misleading is (still) in circulation and even recommended (by equally under-prepared readers, it seems). Is there anybody out there?

Edited to remove apostrophe in "Beatle's" . . .

Edited February 12, 2010 by David Ayers

[Brad]

Listened to Beatles For Sale last night, and the stereo version is spectacular.

You must love vocals and inaudible instruments.

I recall when looking at the post release mayhem on the SH board that this title was the unanimous best of all the lot re: stereo vs mono. hmmm.

I prefer the mono but have no trouble with the stereo version.

[dave9199]

Has anyone bought a bootleg stereo box without knowing it? I think I did through a third party on Amazon. The covers and printing looked terrible. I told the guy I wanted to return it for a refund and he agreed, but I'm still trying to get my $120 back from him. I sent him an email (my 6th! He's only responded to one before where I also threatened to let Amazon handle it) and told him I'll be filing a claim if he doesn't refund my money. I have confirmation that it was received.

[A Lark Ascending]

MacDonald is an amateur and a hack.

'was'

He died some years back.

He was a rock journalist, one of the best in the 70s. I read the Shostakovich back in the 80s when I was just getting interested and found it really helpful. Perhaps he was out of his depth re: the classical world but his book was a nice introduction to a new listener. There's a place for the general introduction alongside the musicological and scholarly.

The Beatles book works because it is more in the area he generally worked in.

[David Ayers]

MacDonald is an amateur and a hack.

'was'

He died some years back.

He was a rock journalist, one of the best in the 70s. I read the Shostakovich back in the 80s when I was just getting interested and found it really helpful. Perhaps he was out of his depth re: the classical world but his book was a nice introduction to a new listener. There's a place for the general introduction alongside the musicological and scholarly.

The Beatles book works because it is more in the area he generally worked in.

Present historic tense. I looked him up on wikipedia before I laid into him. But before that I read his book.

What I am saying Bev is that I don't agree with the view you express (which is a standard view in some quarters, apparently). How did it help to read something so ill-informed and badly argued? It may have felt like it helped, but that is not the same thing. And I never mentioned the classical world. I said he is ignorant of music, ignorant of critical and cultural theory, cannot read the materials on which he pronounces, and does not observe basic scholarly and intellectual standards. Did he really put all this right before tackling the Beatles, or is that too (as I suspect) just more of the same?

[A Lark Ascending]

I suspect that a vast number of people who make judgements in print are "ignorant of music (in the technical sense), ignorant of critical and cultural theory, cannot read the materials on which (t)he(y) pronounce()".

It's ages since I read the book so can't comment on how well or badly written it was. I do recall it as being somewhat obsessed with the "secret messages" supposedly lodged in the music. He was doing what a lot of musical critics do (including many with strong reputations) - getting hooked by an idea and then projecting it back onto the music.

Part of the problem here is that the scholars are rarely that good at writing for a non-specialist audience. I've no technical knowledge of music or 'critical and cultural theory' but am very interested in reading about music. Many's the time I've foundered on books where the discussion of the musicological or the insider-speak of cultural studies has just lost me.

Maybe if the scholars were better at writing for a genuinely interested wider audience, books by non-specialists would not get contracts. As it is they tend to prefer to write for one another.

You get the same arguments in the world of history - between those who do the mining and those who use the mined materials to construct interpretations for a popular audience. I had to read a great deal of the former when I was training and still have to (very reluctantly) read some of it now for professional purposes; but for pleasure I go for the popular history now.