Aggie87 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) "My baby says she's traveling on the one after 909!" Big news for Beatles fans, they're releasing the Beatles' albums in remastered format (digipak I believe) on 9 Sept 09. This is in conjunction with the Beatles Rock Band game (which I could care less about, personally). They're releasing all 12 "proper" albums, along with Magical Mystery Tour and Past Masters I & II (which are now one set instead of two). Also, Paul & Ringo played together at the David Lynch Foundation this past Saturday: Edited April 9, 2009 by Aggie87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 So you can buy the individual albums in stereo but you need a box set for the mono albums. How stupid is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ok. Two thoughts: One... Finally!!!! Two... The whole mono/stereo thing really does suck. But guess what I'm asking for for Christmas (after I buy all the stereo albums on September 9th)? Huzza!!! :party: :party: :party: :party: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ok. I've regained my composure. I wish that they had opted to release them the way Costello does his reissues (or at least the way he did it on Rhino and Rykodisc): Three or four at a time spaced a few months apart, because frankly buying fourteen new discs all on the same day is going to be expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I don't know, for some reason I am a bit disappointed. With the CD format there is enough room to include the Stereo and Mono versions of the albums on each CD with a couple of bonus tracks or demo's. Even though I have the first take of I'm Looking Through You from the Anthology how cool would it have been to have that tracked on at the end of the Stereo/Mono remastered version CD of Rubber Soul? I guess its all about selling as many units as possible but everybody already has these so they could have done more than just a remastered re-release of the same titles that are already out. I reckon I will pick up Revolver and Abbey Road for the heck of it but it would have been nice to have the option to buy a single CD w/ the Mono release. Maybe Capitol will do a mono single CD release of Beatles 64 and 65. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I wish that they had opted to release them the way Costello does his reissues (or at least the way he did it on Rhino and Rykodisc): Three or four at a time spaced a few months apart, because frankly buying fourteen new discs all on the same day is going to be expensive! If I remember correctly, that's how they released the original CD issues. I remember having to wait to buy each batch as they came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I reckon I will pick up Revolver and Abbey Road for the heck of it but it would have been nice to have the option to buy a single CD w/ the Mono release. Maybe Capitol will do a mono single CD release of Beatles 64 and 65. I wish Capitol would do a third box set of the U.S. issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I reckon I will pick up Revolver and Abbey Road for the heck of it but it would have been nice to have the option to buy a single CD w/ the Mono release. Maybe Capitol will do a mono single CD release of Beatles 64 and 65. I wish Capitol would do a third box set of the U.S. issues. Yes, I've been hoping that one is forthcoming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I'm OK with the mono/stereo thingy but I wished that they had made them available in a high res format. That's the real problem here, imho. I mean they spend 4 years and gobs of money on getting the remastering just right and they put it out on CD??? Are the DVD's going to be available in Blu-Ray?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) How many times can they peddle this same stuff to make big bucks off of it? Unless these remasters reveal very significantly new sonic pleasures, why is this a big deal? I can just imagine that in the year 2309, the big news will be: "1,892nd Remaster of the Beatles Albums Scheduled for the Fall!!!! Promises to Be More 'Real' Sounding Than the 2304 Remasters!!! Previously Unheard Snippet of John Lennon Singing Six Seconds of a Song From Mary Poppins to Himself On An Elevator The Highlight of the Set!!! Stereo, Mono and New HyperReal Versions of This Mary Poppins Snippet Available on the Deluxe Version of This Set For Only $25,000 More!" Edited April 7, 2009 by Hot Ptah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 "My baby says she's traveling on the one after 909!" Big news for Beatles fans, they're releasing the Beatles' albums in remastered format (digipak I believe) on 9 Sept 09. This is in conjunction with the Beatles Rock Band game (which I could care less about, personally). They're releasing all 12 "proper" albums, along with Magical Mystery Tour and Past Masters I & II (which are now one set instead of two). Also, Paul & Ringo played together at the David Lynch Foundation this past Saturday: Could you post a waveform for me? And, dude, fill out your profile! Seriously, I'm going to wait on this one and see what the reactions are to the sound. I happen to like the sound of the present cds, and I'm not too sure if I really want crystal clear Beatles music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Given that I just bought Hard Day's Night yesterday, I'm probably not their target audience. I finally have the core CDs (the UK versions), and they sound fine to me. I'm certainly not going to run out and get remastered versions, which will forevermore sound a bit off to me. In fact, I'm pretty unlikely to buy anything more except Let It Be on DVD if that ever comes out. But the real question is now how are you going to get the Sgt. Pepper's inserts? I bought my copy on CD back in the long-box era (remember that?) and they actually printed these in slightly reduced size on the back of the box. I clipped the box out and just the other day ran across this. Even this is slightly deflating, but to cut this down by another 50% or spread it across the pages of a CD insert just kind of defeats the purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) How many times can they peddle this same stuff to make big bucks off of it? Unless these remasters reveal very significantly new sonic pleasures, why is this a big deal? I can just imagine that in the year 2309, the big news will be: "1,892nd Remaster of the Beatles Albums Scheduled for the Fall!!!! Promises to Be More 'Real' Sounding Than the 2304 Remasters!!! Previously Unheard Snippet of John Lennon Singing Six Seconds of a Song From Mary Poppins to Himself On An Elevator The Highlight of the Set!!! Stereo, Mono and New HyperReal Versions of This Mary Poppins Snippet Available on the Deluxe Version of This Set For Only $25,000 More!" It does make for an interesting take on fair use factor number 4, does the use affect the market for the music? Courts have tried to determine what a reasonable person would do. Would the use affect the marketplace of reasonable people? They are not understanding that the music buying market is not made up of reasonable people very much in the first place. How many of us have repetitive sets of the same music in different formats? It will continue this way, I am sure. And courts will continue to be out of touch with the realities of the market. Edited April 7, 2009 by It Should be You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 How many times can they peddle this same stuff to make big bucks off of it? Unless these remasters reveal very significantly new sonic pleasures, why is this a big deal? They will. The current versions suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 How many times can they peddle this same stuff to make big bucks off of it? Unless these remasters reveal very significantly new sonic pleasures, why is this a big deal? This is the first time in 22 years that these albums have been reissued on CD. Only the 2nd cd issue ever. I would have liked to have seen 2 disc sets for each album - one with the album in stereo & mono where possible, and one with outtakes, alternates, etc. But I am interested in hearing these for sure! Apple doesn't move very fast, so these may be the last issues of this music for another 20 years, unless you consider the Andorran releases which will probably follow shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 This is the first time in 22 years that these albums have been reissued on CD. Only the 2nd cd issue ever. I would have liked to have seen 2 disc sets for each album - one with the album in stereo & mono where possible, and one with outtakes, alternates, etc. But I am interested in hearing these for sure! That would have been the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 How many times can they peddle this same stuff to make big bucks off of it? Unless these remasters reveal very significantly new sonic pleasures, why is this a big deal? They will. The current versions suck. Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? My guess is that it will be a split decision (especially on the SH board!) on whether they actually sound better, but they will sound different than what we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 If you have not heard these albums in mono, you have not heard them as they're supposed to sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 The Hoffman forum has gone crazy, 1,000+ posts on this in less than 8 hours... (sigh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? My guess is that it will be a split decision (especially on the SH board!) on whether they actually sound better, but they will sound different than what we have now. If your frame of reference is the CDs (as it is for me), I really don't think there is any benefit to getting the remasters. It will just mess with your head. The only Beatles I've heard on LP was Sgt. Pepper's. I'm happy with the sound on the CDs and that's what I listened to all through college, etc. Not saying that this project is an abomination or anything, I just don't see any value for me. I do seriously wonder if Apple is misjudging things though -- I think the target audience here is in their late 50s to 60s, and this group is really starting to wind down its CD buying. No not us on the board or SH Board but we are such outliers it is a little scary. And truly the next generation or two below me (Z?) isn't going to buy anything at all. It will be all torrents all the time. We'll see how well that works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? My guess is that it will be a split decision (especially on the SH board!) on whether they actually sound better, but they will sound different than what we have now. If your frame of reference is the CDs (as it is for me), I really don't think there is any benefit to getting the remasters. It will just mess with your head. The only Beatles I've heard on LP was Sgt. Pepper's. I'm happy with the sound on the CDs and that's what I listened to all through college, etc. Not saying that this project is an abomination or anything, I just don't see any value for me. I do seriously wonder if Apple is misjudging things though -- I think the target audience here is in their late 50s to 60s, and this group is really starting to wind down its CD buying. No not us on the board or SH Board but we are such outliers it is a little scary. And truly the next generation or two below me (Z?) isn't going to buy anything at all. It will be all torrents all the time. We'll see how well that works out. I guess the major question would be: Will they sound better than the Ebbetts? Though I think even these are overrated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? My guess is that it will be a split decision (especially on the SH board!) on whether they actually sound better, but they will sound different than what we have now. If your frame of reference is the CDs (as it is for me), I really don't think there is any benefit to getting the remasters. It will just mess with your head. The only Beatles I've heard on LP was Sgt. Pepper's. I'm happy with the sound on the CDs and that's what I listened to all through college, etc. Not saying that this project is an abomination or anything, I just don't see any value for me. I do seriously wonder if Apple is misjudging things though -- I think the target audience here is in their late 50s to 60s, and this group is really starting to wind down its CD buying. No not us on the board or SH Board but we are such outliers it is a little scary. And truly the next generation or two below me (Z?) isn't going to buy anything at all. It will be all torrents all the time. We'll see how well that works out. I guess the major question would be: Will they sound better than the Ebbetts? Though I think even these are overrated... I take it you're aware that the Ebbetts are bootlegs? Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) Now, this is something I have wondered about for years. Maybe I'm just too used to the sound of the present cds, but I find nothing wrong with the current cds. I don't want to get all Hoffmanny on everyone, but will the new mastering sound really better than the old one? My guess is that it will be a split decision (especially on the SH board!) on whether they actually sound better, but they will sound different than what we have now. If your frame of reference is the CDs (as it is for me), I really don't think there is any benefit to getting the remasters. It will just mess with your head. The only Beatles I've heard on LP was Sgt. Pepper's. I'm happy with the sound on the CDs and that's what I listened to all through college, etc. Not saying that this project is an abomination or anything, I just don't see any value for me. I do seriously wonder if Apple is misjudging things though -- I think the target audience here is in their late 50s to 60s, and this group is really starting to wind down its CD buying. No not us on the board or SH Board but we are such outliers it is a little scary. And truly the next generation or two below me (Z?) isn't going to buy anything at all. It will be all torrents all the time. We'll see how well that works out. I guess the major question would be: Will they sound better than the Ebbetts? Though I think even these are overrated... I take it you're aware that the Ebbetts are bootlegs? Just curious Yeah, but it's like The Basement Tapes, if you're looking for the full story, sometimes you have to boot it... Edited April 7, 2009 by Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 The Hoffman forum has gone crazy, 1,000+ posts on this in less than 8 hours... (sigh) I first read the news via a snarky report on Pitchfork. I immediately thought of the Hoffman server exploding from too many posts. YEOW!, 28,000 views on a pre-order thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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