MLB 2009 Season

[WorldB3]

8, after taking 2 of 3 from the Giants. Great to beat the amazing Tim Lincecum today.

I don't have the energy to hate the Dodgers like before but damn seeing Lincecum get knocked out in Dodger stadium which also knocked out the Giants hope for the post season was a psychic blow. I look forward to seeing the Giants return the favor to Dodger fans next year.

Officially Baseball season has ended and Football Season has started in SF.

[Big Al]

8, after taking 2 of 3 from the Giants. Great to beat the amazing Tim Lincecum today.

I don't have the energy to hate the Dodgers like before but damn seeing Lincecum get knocked out in Dodger stadium which also knocked out the Giants hope for the post season was a psychic blow. I look forward to seeing the Giants return the favor to Dodger fans next year.

Officially Baseball season has ended and Football Season has started in SF.

Funny... baseball season AND football season ended here in Arlington simultaneously yesterday!

[Tim McG]

8, after taking 2 of 3 from the Giants. Great to beat the amazing Tim Lincecum today.

I don't have the energy to hate the Dodgers like before but damn seeing Lincecum get knocked out in Dodger stadium which also knocked out the Giants hope for the post season was a psychic blow. I look forward to seeing the Giants return the favor to Dodger fans next year.

Officially Baseball season has ended and Football Season has started in SF.

Go Niners then, I guess.

Grrrr

8, after taking 2 of 3 from the Giants. Great to beat the amazing Tim Lincecum today.

I don't have the energy to hate the Dodgers like before but damn seeing Lincecum get knocked out in Dodger stadium which also knocked out the Giants hope for the post season was a psychic blow. I look forward to seeing the Giants return the favor to Dodger fans next year.

Officially Baseball season has ended and Football Season has started in SF.

Funny... baseball season AND football season ended here in Arlington simultaneously yesterday!

Ouch!

[Tim McG]

8, after taking 2 of 3 from the Giants. Great to beat the amazing Tim Lincecum today.

Lincecum just didn't have his best stuff...gone by the 5th.

If anything good comes out of this experience, I sure hope the young guys on the Giants got a good education from the Dodger fans chanting "giants suck" and start to feel the bile come up in their throats even at the mere mention of the initials "LA". This is why having veteran Giants players makes the difference. I don't think the young guys really understand the meaning of or the history behind the oldest rivalry in baseball. The vets get it, the kids don't.

You just don't roll over and act like road kill when the Dodgers play the Giants. It just plain isn't done. And I don't care what the W-L records are or what the playoff possibilities are. The recent play by the Giants is completely unacceptable. Those young guys need to get that inside their guts and man-up next year against the [hated] Dodgers.

Signed,

A Dissatisfied Customer

Grrrr

Edited September 21, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[Noj]

I detest fans who chant lame, classless crap at our rivals. It's just as embarrassing as the trolls at the Laker game chanting "Boston sucks" to the Celtics. I mean, come on. Not only are the Celtics a long way from sucking these days, but at least try to have some class. LA does have to deal with a bit of the "gangster" element polluting our teams' fan bases. They pick fights with opposing fans at the stadiums and throw food and drinks at them. Such morons should be greeted by security and escorted out with a lifetime ban.

It's one of the reasons I love going to UCLA Bruin football games at the Rose Bowl, because my brother and his friends know how to exchange friendly banter with the opposing fans. A little tongue-in-cheek trash talk with a smile, then share a beer with the folks from out of town. It's sports, not something to come to blows over.

Edited September 21, 2009 by Noj

[Tim McG]

I detest fans who chant lame, classless crap at our rivals. It's just as embarrassing as the trolls at the Laker game chanting "Boston sucks" to the Celtics. I mean, come on. Not only are the Celtics a long way from sucking these days, but at least try to have some class. LA does have to deal with a bit of the "gangster" element polluting our teams' fan bases. They pick fights with opposing fans at the stadiums and throw food and drinks at them. Such morons should be greeted by security and escorted out with a lifetime ban.

It's one of the reasons I love going to UCLA Bruin football games at the Rose Bowl, because my brother and his friends know how to exchange friendly banter with the opposing fans. A little tongue-in-cheek trash talk with a smile, then share a beer with the folks from out of town. It's sports, not something to come to blows over.

Exactly, Jon.

I'd share a brewsky with you any day.

In SF the worst it ever gets is the Beat LA! chant. No big deal. Nobody is going to care if you root for your team. It's the jerks who blow it for everybody.

Edited September 21, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[WorldB3]

"Giants players, start to feel the bile come up in their throats even at the mere mention of the initials LA"

Good Speak your living in the past. Not saying the players are not super competitive (as you have to be to play at their level) but the hating on laundry just isn't done anymore. These guys are more like a fraternity, they are the elite that have made it to the show, the rode the buses together in minors, been on the same team before on other mlb teams. Its different than the past when you played for one team for 20 years and lived in that city for the same and knew the fans.

The players stick up for each other. They don't hate other players on other teams with whom they share a players union with. however they do hate the fans that call them pieces of crap, the bloggers with unfounded attacks on just about anything, the sport talk hosts and the sports writers who are allowed to share their space in the club house. The players on other teams they respect.

Edited September 21, 2009 by WorldB3

[Tim McG]

"Giants players, start to feel the bile come up in their throats even at the mere mention of the initials LA"

Good Speak your living in the past. Not saying the players are not super competitive (as you have to be to play at their level) but the hating on laundry just isn't done anymore. These guys are more like a fraternity, they are the elite that have made it to the show, the rode the buses together in minors, been on the same team before on other mlb teams. Its different than the past when you played for one team for 20 years and lived in that city for the same and knew the fans.

The players stick up for each other. They don't hate other players on other teams with whom they share a players union with. however they do hate the fans that call them pieces of crap, the bloggers with unfounded attacks on just about anything, the sport talk hosts and the sports writers who are allowed to share their space in the club house. The players on other teams they respect.

Maybe that's the problem.

And I don't mean hate in the sense of violence or mayhem [though that Johan Santana beanball exchange after- Cain nailed David Wright- directed toward Sandoval and Molina a month ago sure doesn't prove these guys all love each other either]. What I'm talking about is the fire in the belly; the will to go out and beat your rival no matter what the stakes are.

If a team can't get up for that and during the regular season, then they will never get to the World Series. The drive to win needs to go beyond just a job at that point. That whole respect thing is just an excuse not to go hard even if the win is meaningless.

That isn't what the fans pay to see.

Edited September 21, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[WorldB3]

Bottom line is the Giants need to be competitive again next year, hard to have a rivalry when one team wins the other doesn't. This year was a good start but after the last four years why would anybody on the Dodgers hate the Giants if they are always ahead of them in the standings.

I think rivalries don't really get going until you have to knock each other out in the post season or having meaningful games at the end of the season for several seasons in a row.

[Tim McG]

Bottom line is the Giants need to be competitive again next year, hard to have a rivalry when one team wins the other doesn't. This year was a good start but after the last four years why would anybody on the Dodgers hate the Giants if they are always ahead of them in the standings.

I think rivalries don't really get going until you have to knock each other out in the post season or having meaningful games at the end of the season for several seasons in a row.

Already been done...numerous times, WB3.

And you're right, the Giants need to dial it up a notch if they are going to compete for the NL West tittle. But taking the Dodgers for granted isn't going to get it done.

Besides, because the Dodgers finished ahead of the Giants this year and last doesn't account for the head-to-head competition. This year the Dogers won it. Last Year the teams tied. The year before the Giants won. Overall, the Giants have beaten the Dodgers more times in head-to-head battles.

Why would Casey Blake mock Brian Wilson? Why did Eric Gagne flip off the Giants fans? Why did Jim Tracy get tossed at so many Giants-Dodgers games? Because these teams hate each other. It ia a rivalry, Dude. It's always there just below the surface. Because the young guys punked out on the Giants faithful by not getting the best of the Dodgers these last two series doesn't play well with us long suffering fans. If a player cops a who gives a shit attitude with us we'll boo his ass. Mercilessly. Count on it. Just ask Tyler Walker or Chili Davis or Felix Rodriguez or Armando [fucking] Benitez if that's true. The young guys need to get dialed in on that one...Fresno isn't that far from SF.

On the flip side, you bust your butt trying to get the win and we'll love you forever. There is a very good reason why fans still love guys like JT Snow, Rich Aurilla, Will Clark and Matt Williams to name only a few.

The BoSox and Yankees fans sure as hell don't feel that way and their teams play up to that expectation when they meet. The W-L record means nothing....it's all about beating the other guy.

Edited September 21, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[Dan Gould]

These are the fucking games I hate Fran-COMA.

The Royals are swinging the bats pretty well, its 9-5 after five unimpressive innings from Wakefield (7 walks) and the game is being played in heavy fucking rain.

Meanwhile, Delcarmen has been pitching himself out of the fucking postseason roster with brutal performances. Francona said the last time that he wanted to give him a chance to get his shit together in a low pressure situation, and he was so bad it became a save situation. So why would you call on this worthless POS, in the rain? He's likely to get better finish on his pitches under these conditions? Absolutely brutally stupid managing, and its rewarded by that asshole giving up three runs and leaving with the tying run at second base, which I am sure Bard will allow to score now.

Seriously, what possible purpose is served by having Delcarmen pitch. Does he fucking have a bet riding on the outcome and wanted to ensure they'd lose? Fucking Christ.

NOW ITS FUCKING 11-9. MOTHERFUCKING CHRIST.

[Chalupa]

WFC magic number down to 4 on the Marlins and 5 on the Braves.

[Tim McG]

WFC magic number down to 4 on the Marlins and 5 on the Braves.

M'kay.

If we can still count the Marlins in, then....the Giants WC "magic number" is 4, too.

[Give it up, JH....Rockies are going to take it. They play nobody but tomato cans until the last weekend of the season; the hated Dodgers. By then LA will be playing an all Triple A squad to save their starters for the playoffs. Sorry to burst your bubble, big fella.]

Edited September 23, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[Quincy]

WFC magic number down to 4 on the Marlins and 5 on the Braves.

M'kay.

If we can still count the Marlins in, then....the Giants WC "magic number" is 4, too.

How much is left in that bottle of wine you're drinking?

Different divisions, different magic numbers, throw in the wild card it's another matter. For the Rockies the Wild Card magic number is 9 over the Giants, at least as of 7:42 Pacific Time.

[ghost of miles]

Great Angels-Yankees game last night--practically felt like a playoff. Just glad to see NY finally pull one out at Anaheim.

[Tim McG]

WFC magic number down to 4 on the Marlins and 5 on the Braves.

M'kay.

If we can still count the Marlins in, then....the Giants WC "magic number" is 4, too.

How much is left in that bottle of wine you're drinking?

Different divisions, different magic numbers, throw in the wild card it's another matter. For the Rockies the Wild Card magic number is 9 over the Giants, at least as of 7:42 Pacific Time.

Same WC, Quincy.

Right now:

Rockies

Giants 5

Braves 5

Marlins 5.5

[Dan Gould]

And J.H. is referencing the Magic Number for the PHILS TO CLINCH THEIR DIVISION.

It has nothing to do with the Wild Card, which made your comment nonsensical. Furthermore the Giants don't have a Magic number, they have a Tragic number: The number of Colorado wins and Giant losses that will end their postseason dreams.

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[Soulstation1]

The Indians magic number has increased to 2015

[Tim McG]

And J.H. is referencing the Magic Number for the PHILS TO CLINCH THEIR DIVISION.

It has nothing to do with the Wild Card, which made your comment nonsensical. Furthermore the Giants don't have a Magic number, they have a Tragic number: The number of Colorado wins and Giant losses that will end their postseason dreams.

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This was the post:

WFC magic number down to 4 on the Marlins and 5 on the Braves.

No mention of the Phillies here.

[Noj]

WFC=World F***ing Champions=Phillies=JHD's team...

[Tim McG]

WFC=World F***ing Champions=Phillies=JHD's team...

Wild F***ing Card, too.

Makes sense now. Thanks, Jon.

I don't speak fluent Philly.

Edited September 24, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[Dan Gould]

The Phils have not been listed in the Wild Card standings since about three years ago, so why would anyone reference a Wild Card magic number? Have you noticed the Phillies as a team to beat in your wild card dreaming?

[paul secor]

The Indians magic number has increased to 2015

[Tim McG]

The Phils have not been listed in the Wild Card standings since about three years ago, so why would anyone reference a Wild Card magic number? Have you noticed the Phillies as a team to beat in your wild card dreaming?

I don't follow Eastern baseball teams, Dan. Never have. I live in California, OK?

This would be comparable to me asking if you could cook authentic Mexican food [which, I seriously doubt] then making a snide remark about how you can't. My guess is you don't even know what REAL Mexican food tastes like.

Taco Bell isn't even in the ballpark.

Hence, my point about not knowing what JH's WFC means to you Easterners.

I took a guess.

I was wrong.

Sue me.

Edited September 24, 2009 by GoodSpeak

[Dan Gould]

There have been about a half dozen times that someone has asked what his acronym means. About ten times someone has explained it. So if you simply read this thread you might pick up on it. Its not an Eastern thing, its an O-thing!

But I guess you're just a half-assed baseball fan who thinks the world somehow revolves around a team that hasn't won a World Series in several generations, and doesn't even pay attention to other National League teams.

That's just fucking lame.

Edited September 24, 2009 by Dan Gould