lippmann + rau records

[Niko]

admittedly i know little about this... whether lippmann and rau is an old label or just two guys (one of them still alive) reissuing stuff that's important to them (possibly because they produced it for someone else years ago)... anyway, there is a bunch of new cds, exclusively it seems, at zweitausendeins.de and i have the feeling they are important... ordered the schoof and can hopefully tell you about packaging soon... any reccomendations from this batch?

Dauner Trio, Wolfgang - DREAM TALK

Freund Sextet, Joki - YOGI JAZZ

Hipp Quintet, Jutta - COOL DOGS & TWO ORANGES

Koller Quartet, Hans - MULTIPLE KOLLER

Koller, Hans/& Attila Zoller, Roland Hanna - TRINITY

Koller, Hans/& The International Brass Company - THE HORSES

Lenz, Günter - ROARING PLENTIES

Mangelsdorff, Emil - SWINGING OIL DROPS!

Sauer Quartet, Heinz - METAL BLOSSOMS

Sauer, Heinz/& Bob Degen - ELLINGTONIA REVISITED!

Sauer, Heinz/& Bob Degen with Carey Bell - BLUES AFTER SUNRISE

Schoof Quintet, Manfred - VOICES

Zoller, Attila/& Hans Koller, George Mraz - THE K & K 3 IN NEW YORK

thank you!

Edited April 5, 2009 by Niko

[Niko]

to bring this off topic immediately 2001 also has a batch of hatologies for 3,99 (double cds 7,99) and recommendations are very much appreciated (ordered the vallon and ortega imediately . the ortega disc btw has the missing tune from new dance) notably, is the braxton a good introduction to his work?

Carter, John/& Bobby Bradford Quartet - SEEKING

D'Agaro, Daniele/& Jeb Bishop, Kent Kessler, Robert Barry - CHICAGO OVERTONES

efzeg - KROM

eRikm & Fennesz - COMPLEMENTARY CONTRASTS - Donaueschingen 2003.

Gisler, Fabian - BACKYARD POETS

Graewe, Georg/& Ernst Reijseger, Gerry Hemingway - SONIC FICTION

Gregorio Trio, Guillermo - RED CUBE(d).Gregorio, Guillermo/& Mats Gustafsson, Kjell Nordeson - BACKGROUND MUSIC

Harrison Trio, Jackson - LAND TIDES

Jörgensmann Quartet, Theo - SNIJBLOEMEN

Kennel, Hans - MYTHA - How it all started.

Konrad, Bernd/& Hans Koller Unit - PHONOLITH

Lacy, Steve - AT THE NEW JAZZ MEETING BADEN-BADEN 2002

Lake Trio, Oliver - ZAKI

Levin Quartet, Daniel - SOME TREES

Liebman, David - COLORS

Lloyd, Jon - FOUR AND FIVE

Lossing, Russ - ALL THINGS ARISE

Maneri Quartet, Joe - TENDERLY

McPhee, Joe/& Survival Unit II - N.Y.N.Y. 1971

Mehta, Rajesh/& Paul Lovens - SOLOS & DUOS/Orka.

Murray Trio, David- 3D FAMILY

Nagl Ensemble, Max - QUARTIER DU FAISAN

Nagl/Bernstein/Akchoté/Jones - BIG FOUR LIVE

Newton, Lauren - FILIGREE

Ortega, Anthony - AFTERNOON IN PARIS

Vallon Trio, Colin - AILLEURS

Weber, Christian- 3 SUITS & A VIOLIN

Westbrook Orchestra, Mike - ON DUKE'S BIRTHDAY

Braxton, Anthony - CHARLIE PARKER PROJECT

Trio X 3 - NEW JAZZ MEETING BADEN-BADEN 2002

(in case anyone wants to order and wants to save on shipping: other stuff at 2001 are currently a bunch of impulse and concord cds, many blue note rvgs , the mangelsdorff boxes...)

[paul secor]

admittedly i know little about this... whether lippmann and rau is an old label or just two guys (one of them still alive) reissuing stuff that's important to them (possibly because they produced it for someone else years ago)... anyway, there is a bunch of new cds, exclusively it seems, at zweitausendeins.de and i have the feeling they are important... ordered the schoof and can hopefully tell you about packaging soon... any reccomendations from this batch?

Dauner Trio, Wolfgang - DREAM TALK

Freund Sextet, Joki - YOGI JAZZ

Hipp Quintet, Jutta - COOL DOGS & TWO ORANGES

Koller Quartet, Hans - MULTIPLE KOLLER

Koller, Hans/& Attila Zoller, Roland Hanna - TRINITY

Koller, Hans/& The International Brass Company - THE HORSES

Lenz, Günter - ROARING PLENTIES

Mangelsdorff, Emil - SWINGING OIL DROPS!

Sauer Quartet, Heinz - METAL BLOSSOMS

Sauer, Heinz/& Bob Degen - ELLINGTONIA REVISITED!

Sauer, Heinz/& Bob Degen with Carey Bell - BLUES AFTER SUNRISE

Schoof Quintet, Manfred - VOICES

Zoller, Attila/& Hans Koller, George Mraz - THE K & K 3 IN NEW YORK

thank you!

Can't give any recs on that bunch, but I wish they'd reissue the Zoller/Raney recordings.

[Chuck Nessa]

Met Horst Lippmann 43 years ago when he was in Chicago gathering blues musicians for one the his festival tours. Seemed to be a nice fellow. He gave me copies of records he'd produced and licensed to CBS in Europe - Mangelsdorff, Schoof and Kuhn. L+R recordingsh have been around a while.

[mikeweil]

Horts Lippman and Fritz Rau were among the leading concert agents in Germany and founded that label some time in the 1970's to release tapes of the German Folk Blues Festival they had staged for many years. Reissues of German jazz legends they were acquainted with followed soon, and the label still exists, although they went separate ways later, and one of the two has passed since (Lippman).

Niko, you can find some basic bio in German wikipedia.

[mikeweil]

From the L&R list, all of these have been available on their label at some time - just reprints.

The Multiple Koller is great.

If you like German jazz of the 60's and 70#s this will give you some basic stuff. The Hipp should be interesting, as she didn't record often, but I never heard that one.

[jlhoots]

IMHO you should get Seeking, Chicago Overtones, Snijbloemen & Charlie Parker Project

[clifford_thornton]

Of the ones you list, I think only the Dauner and Freund were on CBS originally. Very, very rare LPs.

Also in the batch of L&R productions were sessions led by Manfred Schoof, the Kuhn brothers and Albert Mangelsdorff.

Edited April 5, 2009 by clifford_thornton

[Niko]

IMHO you should get Seeking, Chicago Overtones, Snijbloemen & Charlie Parker Project

since i already have and enjoy snijbloemen and seeking i will follow you here and get the other two... ordered the hipp as well (guess it's the same material currently available on a spanish cd? strangely the zweitausendeins site gives three song titles only one of which matches one on the freshsound cd...)

thanks to all for their thoughts... guess the series isn't that new then (though i can't recall having seen one of the cds before...)

[Big Beat Steve]

Amazing how things come full circle ...

All those L+R records from the list in the first post were all over the place in record shops here in the LP days and remained in stock for very, very long at fairly low prices of some 9.99 deutschmarks apiece. Seems like L+R did not manage to shift them all THAT quickly ...

Since the Jutta Hipp LP was mentioned, part of that LP is made up of part of the contents of her first Blue Note LP (10") so the current CD is a re-re-(re-?)reissue.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Big Beat Steve

[clifford_thornton]

Probably licensed the session to BN, right?

[Big Beat Steve]

I would have to look up sources but I think this early Jutta Hipp session released on that 10" BN with the black cover with the pencil drawing of Jutta was one of several European recordings organized at that time by Leonard Feather in Europe for release on BN.

No doubt some diehard BN geek would surely have all the finer details on hand, right up to the size of shoes of everybody present in the recording studio at the time and the meals consumed at lunch break? :D

[king ubu]

here's the info:

Jutta Hipp and her German Jazzmen - Cool Dogs and Two Oranges

(MGM E3157, L+R LR41006)

Emil Mangelsdorff (as) Joki Freund (ts) Jutta Hipp (p) Hans Kresse (b) Karl Sanner (d)

Frankfurt, April 13, 1954

Simone

Anything Goes

Yogi

Cool Dogs

Frankfurt Bridges

Two Oranges

Emil Mangelsdorff, Joki Freund out

same date

Lover Man [not on L+R]

Diagram [not on L+R]

There's also this one:

Jutta Hipp and her Quintet - New Faces-New Sounds from Germany

(Blue Note BLP5056, L+R LR41006)

Emil Mangelsdorff (as) Joki Freund (ts) Jutta Hipp (p) Hans Kresse (b) Karl Sanner (d)

Frankfurt, April 24, 1954

100-3 Blue Skies [not on L+R]

100-4 Mon Petit

100-6 Cleopatra [Chloe-Patra]

100-7 Variations

101-3 Ghost of a Chance (JF out)

101-4 Laura (EM out)

102-2 Don't Worry 'bout Me (EM,JF out)

102-3 What's New ?

All titles also on Blue Note (Jap)BN0014, (Jap)DY5806-1

seems to be a bit of a hackjob, the L+R CD, as it omits three titles...

[Big Beat Steve]

Ah, so it was that MGM session that contributed the other tracks. Wasn't sure snd did not check ...

As for the missing titles, you are right (which is why I wrote about "part" of the 10" LP earlier) but I don't think it was a "hack job" in the worst sense of the word. Remember this CD is a straight reissue of an earlier LP with obviously shorter playing time (as the entire CD series seems to duplicate the earlier LP contents). And back in the late 70s you'd have to be EXTREMELY glad (I know I was, I got my copy in 81 or 82 or so) to get your hands on this material as neither the BN nor the MGM platters had been available anymore for a long time and I doubt Japanese vinyl reissues (if they existed) would have had anywhere near the worldwide circulation they had later on.

Of course the cover was (and is) idiotic but those were the times ... and no doubt we've all seen worse hack jobs with more omitted tracks and much more erratic compiling "strategies" than this.

Still it IS a pity that some tracks are missing.

[king ubu]

Yeah, it's an album fetishist thing again, I guess - or maybe just laziness.

It's just a bit of a pity to see this - I mean it's cool that 2001 carries these new L+R reissues, and it's even cooler that these do exist in the first place, but it would just be nicer in my opinion if the new CDs would include bonus material if there is some - even more so in such a case, where there's more material from the very same sessions!

[clifford_thornton]

Did the MGM material come from the Brunswick EPs or something else?

[Big Beat Steve]

No, Jutta Hipp never recorded any studio sessions as a leader for Brunswick.

That session of April 13, 1954, included 8 tracks of which four were first released on MGN E3137. Two of these (Simone/Anything Goes) were reissued on L+R along with 4 others that were had not been issued in the 50s. The two remaining tracks on MGM (Lover Man/Diagram) were not reissued on L+R.

I have the four MGM tracks on a double EP that includes the Jutta Hipp tracks on one EP and British jazz by "Mike Nevard's British Jazzmen" featung Don Rendell and others (Mike Nevard was a music scribe, not a musician) on the other. The liner notes by Leonard Feather say he had a hand in producing these recordings and the Jutta Hipp recordings were produced by Horst Lippman. Hence the link to the later L+R (re-)release.