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I asked Blue Note whether there would be any special reissues this year when they turn 70 as there were when they turned 60. And lo and behold, they will actually release some of those rejected sessions as Connoisseurs later this year! Michael is not all that happy about releasing them apparently, but after EMI had seen the figures drop considerably for regular reissues of titles previously out on CD, some employee had been given the task to research the jazz community, and he had found that rejected sessions repeatedly had been requested on Internet forums and thought it was worth a try and might create a buzz. The Connoisseur batch will include the following titles (changes may still occur but these are likely):

Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers - Hipsippy Blues (3/8/59)

Kenny Dorham - Blues Lament (3/19/61)

Herbie Hancock - Don’t Even Go There (7/19/66)

Gene Harris & Grant Green - Playmates (10/15/62)

Jackie McLean - Abrasion (7/5/68)

Horace Silver Tentet - The Dragon Lady (4/11-12/63)

[Relistening to the tentet tapes Michael thought that they were better than he had remembered. The ensembles are a bit ragged, but the solos are excellent.]

No Train Wreck or Grant Green with John Gilmore this time, but who knows what may happen if these sell decently?

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I asked Blue Note whether there would be any special reissues this year when they turn 70 as there were when they turned 60. And lo and behold, they will actually release some of those rejected sessions as Connoisseurs later this year! Michael is not all that happy about releasing them apparently, but after EMI had seen the figures drop considerably for regular reissues of titles previously out on CD, some employee had been given the task to research the jazz community, and he had found that rejected sessions repeatedly had been requested on Internet forums and thought it was worth a try and might create a buzz. The Connoisseur batch will include the following titles (changes may still occur but these are likely):

Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers - Hipsippy Blues (3/8/59)

Kenny Dorham - Blues Lament (3/19/61)

Herbie Hancock - Don’t Even Go There (7/19/66)

Gene Harris & Grant Green - Playmates (10/15/62)

Jackie McLean - Abrasion (7/5/68)

Horace Silver Tentet - The Dragon Lady (4/11-12/63)

[Relistening to the tentet tapes Michael thought that they were better than he had remembered. The ensembles are a bit ragged, but the solos are excellent.]

No Train Wreck or Grant Green with John Gilmore this time, but who knows what may happen if these sell decently?

See this news should have been relayed yesterday or tomorrow, as no one will believe it is not part of a prank. So tell us again on April 2. We'll be around.

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In serious: why don't they at least give us a compilation with the most succesful tracks from some of these sessions? Can't be all bad! Maybe a 2CD set with some nice booklet and lots of infos and session photos or something... :)

and yes, that is to imply I fell for the joke... I don't quite get the use of april's fool's day anyway, so I'm not cautious...

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Maybe we could get it lobbied for issue under Norman Connors' name?

:lol: I'll never forget his name now! Wasn't it McLean who thought Connors botched the session anyway? Even though Jackie rejected the session himself, that lineup with Woody and Moncur has got to be salvagaeble somehow...right?

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Maybe we could get it lobbied for issue under Norman Connors' name?

:lol: I'll never forget his name now! Wasn't it McLean who thought Connors botched the session anyway? Even though Jackie rejected the session himself, that lineup with Woody and Moncur has got to be salvagaeble somehow...right?

Not necessarily. 'Bout Soul is a mess (to my ears anyways), and has the same front line. That would be Rashied Ali on drums with LaMont Johnson on piano and Scotty Holt on bass. And Johnson and Holt sound fine with Billy Higgins on McLean's late '66 Left Bank recordings. So do the math...

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FWIW, MC told me back in August of '08 (by e-mail) that the McLean date with Tyrone and Woody was, well, here the exact quote from the e-mail...

"The McLean session is no where to be found"

Which I presume means the tapes are lost. (Or so sayeth MC. :ph34r: )

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Reminds me of Swede's great "Ron Verve Goldman" post from several April 1's ago. Did you save that post Swede?

I'm flattered that you remember it! It was on the BNBB way back in 2002. It doesn't seem to have been archived at the Internet Archive, but after some searching I found it on an old hard drive.

At this point in time Verve had discontinued its VEE and VBR series and Mark@Verve had told us that they would be replaced by a mini-LP series, but the name of it had not been revealed yet (it would eventually be LPR). They also had a new president with a questionable background. So...

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Verve launches their own RVG series

Later this month Verve will release the first batch of their new mini-LP series, that replaces the now defunct VBR and VEE series. Only now have they revealed the name of it. It will be called the RVG series, but with ”RVG” standing for Ron ’Verve’ Goldstein (as he will be marketed henceforth), the new president/CEO at Verve Music Group. The mini-LPs will also have an obi strip sporting a picture of Goldstein as well as his signature. This is said to be a part of Verve’s new marketing strategy of using ’Verve’ Goldstein’s name and face as a quality assurance for the consumer. Prior to his Verve engagement Goldstein had made a career of running his own new age label, where he turned Yanni into a new age superstar. Goldstein "combines great creativity, marketing skills and business acumen" says Verve chairman Tommy LiPuma.

When Blue Note started their limited edition Connoisseur series, it didn’t take long for Verve to follow suit with their limited edition VEE series. And now with the success of Blue Note’s RVG series, Verve once again copies a BN concept, and now even uses the same name, although it’s just a coincidence according to them. This seems like a blatant attempt to cash in on the goodwill the ’RVG’ designation has among jazz customers.

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/RVG-edition.html

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Didn't Concord later do something similar with The Keepnews Edition? :g

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But the one from 2001 I actually found on Internet Archive. RVGs apparantly were all the rage in those days.

November RVG batch!

I had almost forgotten about this one, although Mobley's Algerian recording rings a bell. It's worth keeping in mind that there already had been 3 CD reissues of Birth Of The Cool, and some of the hot topics at the time were apparently polarity, shirts and Miles possibly playing on Blue Train. Miles and Gil quarrelling about the tempo I must have gotten from the Dorsey brothers!

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