Hardbopjazz Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) I do have a bootleg of this concert, but this appears to be longer. Anyone know if this is an official release of this '63 concert with Don Cherry? I would go out and buy if it is an official release. Rollins 1963 Edited March 23, 2009 by Hardbopjazz Quote
Indestructible! Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 I do have a bootleg of this concert, but this appears to be longer. Anyone know if this is an official release of this '63 concert with Don Cherry? I would go out and buy if it is an official release. Rollins 1963 The CD you linked is definitely a bootleg. RLR is one of those Andorran labels that releases boots from time to time... but it would not be considered an "official" release. I'm pretty sure everything on this CD has been on Dime before... I'm sure that's where RLR got it from in the first place. Cheers, Shane Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Though the thrust of the original post here was essentially benign IMO, discussions of and requests for unauthorized releases of copyrighted material are not allowed on Organissimo. I'm posting this now in order not to be rude or mysterious but will delete this thread later on today. Quote
Swinging Swede Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 discussions of [...] unauthorized releases of copyrighted material are not allowed on Organissimo. I [...] will delete this thread later on today. What?? Are we not allowed to discuss any "Andorran" releases any longer then? What if something is coprighted in the US but not in other countries? Can't we discuss Classics any more for example? Is this some new policy?? Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 discussions of [...] unauthorized releases of copyrighted material are not allowed on Organissimo. I [...] will delete this thread later on today. What?? Are we not allowed to discuss any "Andorran" releases any longer then? What if something is coprighted in the US but not in other countries? Can't we discuss Classics any more for example? Is this some new policy?? Maybe I'm wrong, but as far as I know discussions on bootlegs were never allowed here and as was stated in the first two posts the Rollins concert disc is a bootleg. Quote
Swinging Swede Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 "unauthorized releases of copyrighted material", JAW. That includes Andorran releases of original LP albums as well. And also Classics releases if the US copyright for those recordings is longer than 50 years which I think it is. Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Well, the final decision is up to Jim and the moderators as to what is allowed and what not. Quote
Swinging Swede Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Which is why I am asking. There have been a lot of discussions through the years of Fresh Sound/LoneHill/Gambit releases, Classics and other non-US labels. If this is a new policy it is a drastic change. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 I think it's a fair discographical question and the thread should not be closed. Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Which is why I am asking. There have been a lot of discussions through the years of Fresh Sound/LoneHill/Gambit releases, Classics and other non-US labels. If this is a new policy it is a drastic change. Jim and the moderators have deleted threads about bootlegs in the past, but I don't know what Jim's exact policy is. Edited March 23, 2009 by J.A.W. Quote
bluesbro Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 How's the sound quality on this? Gambit released a Paris concert last year from the same time with Cherry that is excellent, in great sound. Quote
king ubu Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Gee... I mean it's totally ok not to allow file-sharing here, but a mere discussion of labels that aren't "legit" in the US should certainly be possible, no? Quote
jazzbo Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 Well, it's been going on here since day one or two. . . . Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted March 23, 2009 Author Report Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Gee, all I wanted to know if this is a legit release. If so, I would spend the $ and buy it. I don't want to break any board rules and don't want to make money for those ripping off the artists. If it needs to be deleted, then delete this thread. The same disc is for sale at Amazon.com. Edited March 23, 2009 by Hardbopjazz Quote
WD45 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Posted March 23, 2009 I think it's a fair discographical question and the thread should not be closed. I agree. There is a big difference in my mind between buying a grey-market disc versus a link to an mp3 copy to download. I am ALL FOR deleting links to questionable sites purveying questionable downloads. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I don't mind discussion of bootlegs, just no trading or direct links to them. I do mind discussions of mp3s and sites like that. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 what label was art pepper live at donte's 1968 on b4 it was on Freshsound Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I don't mind discussion of bootlegs, just no trading or direct links to them. I do mind discussions of mp3s and sites like that. This is what I thought, there are loads of threads on these types releases, why this is suddenly an issue for some people is quite strange. I actually had this one and sold it to someone on the Board fairly recently. To be honest I didn't think it was that good really, they sound very, very loose, to the point of being sloppy. Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I don't mind discussion of bootlegs, just no trading or direct links to them. I do mind discussions of mp3s and sites like that. Sensible policy, fine with me. I just got my wires crossed somewhere, and as the only serving moderator, now that MG is on hiatus, my wires need to be uncrossed at all times. Quote
AllenLowe Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 that's ok Larry - but you might want to check out the drug deal that they're making over in the "general discussion" thread - Quote
Larry Kart Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 that's ok Larry - but you might want to check out the drug deal that they're making over in the "general discussion" thread - Is there any left? Quote
ejp626 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) I don't mind discussion of bootlegs, just no trading or direct links to them. I do mind discussions of mp3s and sites like that. Sensible policy, fine with me. I just got my wires crossed somewhere, and as the only serving moderator, now that MG is on hiatus, my wires need to be uncrossed at all times. I hope/assume you mean to prevent the discussion of illicit mp3s, and we don't have to go scrub the forums of all our iTunes and eMusic recommendations. Edited March 24, 2009 by ejp626 Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Right. I'm willing to admit I have a few total bootlegs CD-Rs but I'm not telling anyone where I got them! Quote
blajay Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Right. I'm willing to admit I have a few total bootlegs CD-Rs but I'm not telling anyone where I got them! PM Sent!! JK. Quote
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