Д.Д. Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Anybody knows tis one by chance: Dave Holland / Barre Phillips "Music from Two Basses" (ECM, 1971). I see it's just been reissued on CD in Japan (with corresponding price). Barre Phillips is one of my favorite bassists (his solo CD Camouflage (Victo) is my favorite solo bass record... Dave Holland is no slouch either... but the price... Listened. Amazing. This one will certainly become one of the most often listened-to discs of the following year. If I were a bassist I would listen to it standing on my knees. Hopefully I can track down a reasonably priced copy of this one. It sounds amazing! Dave Holland was a monster on the bass when we saw him in January. I got it for 2300 yen ($21.1) plus very reasonable shipping from Hiroshi Tanno. Not bad, I think. That does sound fairly reasonable. Hmmmm.... John, if you decide to go the Japanese way, I would encourage you to check out the rest of the "Hardcore Jazz" Universal Japan reissues: http://www.universal-music.co.jp/jazz/hard...jazz/index.html As I mentioned, Pharoah Sanders release seems to be already unavailble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 (edited) This Mujician disc is fantastic! One of best albums I have heard in a long time. Even the track with the bagpipes works really well. I am very impressed. Speaking of the Universal Japan "Hardcore Jazz" series, has anyone here heard the Cecil Taylor Live in the Black Forest disc? Edited June 18, 2004 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Speaking of Dunmall, have you boys seen this from the DMG mailing: PAUL DUNMALL / PAUL ROGERS / PHILIP GIBBS - Nimes [ltd ed 4 CD-R set] (Duns 036) Our favorite sax hero, the ever industrious Paul Dunmall, has outdone himself once again with his first self-produced box set. For this massive effort, the incredible bassist Paul Rogers debuts his new custom-made 7 string A.L.L. contrabass with Philip Gibbs on guitars & banjo and with Dunmall on saxes (tenor & soprano usually), woodwinds, casio and voice. All but one of the sixteen tracks are over nine minutes long and as always, Jonathan Scott has done a magnificent job of producing this perfect recording. Philips is an incredible, yet largely unrecognized guitarist that Dunmall has introduced over a half dozen of previous Duns cds and here really gets a chance to solo at length, taking a number of impressive, sometimes furious and often free solos on unprepared and prepared mostly acoustic guitars. Paul Rogers new bass looks and sounds magnificent with a layer of sympathetic strings found under the extra wide neck that Paul can pluck or bow at times, as well as the way it resonates while he plays the 7 strings above the neck. There is a wonderful section which features Gibbs banging rhythmically on his acoustic guitar with some object as Rogers also strums and plucks both sets of strings at once while Dunmall weaves super-quick streams of notes on a soprano or sopranino sax. Never a dull or uninspired moment and pretty f**king extraordinary throughout. Need we say more?!? 4 CD #'d ltd edition [85 copies] set for $60 (we have just five of these right now...more on the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 (edited) This Mujician disc is fantastic! One of best albums I have heard in a long time. Even the track with the bagpipes works really well. I am very impressed. OK, OK, I am convinced. This will be my first Cuneifirm CD. BTW, here is a Tippetts-Dunmall-Westbrooks website (listing depressinly long discographies of all invovled): http://www.mindyourownmusic.co.uk Edited June 19, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Continuing working through the CD Baby package I recieved, and can highly recommend these three: Mark Taylor "Circle Squared". Beautiful stuff - excellent compositions (in advanced hard-bop vein), imaginative playing by all ivolved (Myra Melford in particular). Easy to enjoy. Stylistically close to OmniTone label releases (like marvellous Baikida Carroll's "Marionette on a Hight Wire"). Ben Schachter "Fractals". Stylistically somewhat similar to the one above, allthugh more muscular. Schachter is not the mst original saxophonist, but his compositions are really top-notch. I think this disc is a part of $5 sale (you need to get 3 discs from the sale list: http://www.cdbaby.com/sale to qualify for discount). $5!!!! Twelve20six - again, not the most outstanding musicians (although very solid ones), but very interesting compositions with more diverse elements. Also a part of the $5 sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 From Helma Schlief's (FMP) e-mail: "...end of this month we shall re-release a Peter Brötzmann solo CD (FMP Vinyl 1060 of 1984) called 14 LOVE POEMS PLUS 10 MORE; dedicated to poet Kenneth Patchen". As a honorable subscriber to FMP, I will receive it as soon as it's out and, whether you like it or not, will report here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnhrtg Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Neither of the recent releases by the Brotzmann Tentet's is outstanding. The one with three compositions has almost no explicit, sustained, pulses at all; if anyone cares. And the recordings are a bit too distant for this type of music to prominently bring out the many effects (breaths, scrapes and the like). I've been listening to them over the last couple of weeks and will report back if I have more and better things to say. Both have fragments of inspired blowing - but it just happens that these moments are too widely distributed over the two-discs for me to recommend one over the other as a first go. Overall, these are much more subdued, volume and drive-wise, affairs than the ensemble's previous releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 John: You might find this of interest: Bagatellen: AMPLIFY 2004: ADDITION IN BERLIN -- Observations by Wayne Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Ben Schachter "Fractals". Stylistically somewhat similar to the one above, allthugh more muscular. Schachter is not the mst original saxophonist, but his compositions are really top-notch. I think this disc is a part of $5 sale (you need to get 3 discs from the sale list: http://www.cdbaby.com/sale to qualify for discount). $5!!!! Hadn't known of this one--recently encountered Schachter on Tom Lawton's excellent Retrospective/Debut on DreamBox Media, where he plays very well, though as you say he's not all that unconventional a player. Lawton's a pretty fine composer too, so you might find it worthwhile. Not "outside" music for the most part, though there are a few free-jazz pieces (think Paul Bley or Fred Hersch rather than Cecil Taylor, though!). Lately been listening to various things--got a batch of Matchless releases (the new Chant/Edwards/Prevost, Parker/Prevost, & Conditions). So far I'm kind of underwhelmed. The Parker/Prevost is more or less the same as the last four tracks on Most Materiall--you'd barely know 6 years had passed between them; solid, maybe a little better than the earlier session (I find there's an intriguing speechlike quality to Parker's playing I'd not noticed before) but basically nonessential. So far I've retained no impression at all of the other two after a spin. Anyone have the first two Chant/Edwards/Prevost discs? I've not heard their earlier efforts. Very casual packaging by Matchless standards: the Conditions has a chunk from Prevost's new book for the liner notes (nothing of direct relevance), & the other two have just a blank sheet of paper in lieu of liner notes. I'm told that the Tilbury/Prevost release on the label is the one to go for--frustratingly, it's the one release not in the batch I received. Been listening to Home Cooking in the UK by Sunny Murray/John Edwards/ Tony Bevan (on Foghorn): recommended for fans of hard blowing. Bevan's last one on the label, NHAM, was a fairly muted encounter with some Chicago-scene players (Bishop & Zerang)--this one pulls out all the stops by comparison. A dose of the hard stuff. That Wayne Spencer piece is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Listening to Martin Siewert / Martin Brandlmayr "Too Beautiful to Burn" (Erstwhile, 2003) and enjoying it quite a bit. Will have to listen again to be able to write in greater detail, but this is good stuff, for sure. OK, I litened to this one again, and I like it a lot. I feel there is bit too much emphasis on beat sometimes (I would prefer it to be more abstract in rhythmical sense), but in any case it's a beautiful, mesmerizing work. Will be listening to more Erstwhile stuff today: "Fire Song" by Earl Howard / Denman Maroney and "Do" by Toshimaru Nakamura / Sachiko M. Funny thing, but I find myself spending more and more time listening to "natural environment" sounds. At this very moment they include very nice bird singing (several different birds), children playing in the yard, occasional passing car or train far at the background, very slight (but constant) buzz of a fan somewhere and flying airplanes once in a while. Not something particularly original for sure, but somehow last couple of weeks I tend to find it all fascinating enough to listen to attentively for quite long periods of time. Moroever, yestrerday it reached a certain extreme: I was listening to all these natural environment sounds and then decided to put Mingus' "Black Saint.."... started listening and in 10 minutes realized the music is somehow redundant (Mingus!!! "Black Saint..."!!!), turned it off and went back to listening (with great interest) to natural environment sounds. If it progresses like this, I might have all my CD collection for sales soon, he-he... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnhrtg Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 If it progresses like this, I might have all my CD collection for sales soon, he-he... Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Listened to Momentum Space, the 1998 recording by the late Elvin, the still very lively Cecil Taylor, and the, well, let's put it thus: still among the living, Dewey Redman, for the very first time this afternoon, and featured it in my radio programme later tonight (last of a five part series on Cecil Taylor). I am very impressed, I have to say! Redman, then was still in very good shape, full sound, good ideas, but a bit conventional at times. Elvin is doing great in the duo with Taylor, and his solo is, for me the highlight of the disc, together with Taylor's solo. Taylor starts his solo really introspective, sounding almost like some Jarrett-Corea-wannabe playing his own version of a Schumann piano piece or something, and develops until he ends up playing quite wild stuff. A great performance. And Elvin's solo, well - I LOOOOOVE the sound of his drums! The two trio numbers are, I'm afraid, the weakest tracks of the disc, I think. They're not bad, far from, but not up to the Elvin, Taylor, and Elvin/Taylor ones. The duo of Redman and Elvin is rather good, too, but one hears that both of them are far more conventional and traditional players compared to Taylor. It's the tracks with him that really go over the edge - I consider Elvin's playing on the duo with Taylor to be among the best he committed to record ever. All in all, I can really recommend this disc! A very positive surprise! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 (edited) Listened to Momentum Space... Agree with your assessment. For me also, Elvin solo is the highlight of the disc (beautifully recorded, btw... I would have loved to have a solo Elvin CD recorded this well). Redman sounds a bit tired IMO, but still quite good... his saxophone sounds like alto here - I would have preferred a bit mpore bottom. I remember Cecil's interview in STN where he was saying how much he enjoyed playing with Jones (they played some duo concerts together - who knows, probably they get released one day). A nice cover art also. I am not sure it is still in print, so don't wait for too long with obtaining it. Anybody heard the Cecil/Maneri duo yet? Edited June 20, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Momentum Space Loved this. I only got it last year and still give it regular spins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Listened to Momentum Space... Agree with your assessment. For me also, Elvin solo is the highlight of the disc (beautifully recorded, btw... I would have loved to have a solo Elvin CD recorded this well). Redman sounds a bit tired IMO, but still quite good... his saxophone sounds like alto here - I would have preferred a bit mpore bottom. I remember Cecil's interview in STN where he was saying how much he enjoyed playing with Jones (they played some duo concerts together - who knows, probably they get released one day). A nice cover art also. I am not sure it is still in print, so don't wait for too long with obtaining it. Anybody heard the Cecil/Maneri duo yet? I think that, with only Cecil playing along, Elvin really breakes loose! Remembrances of the best passages of the 1965 Coltrane quartet when McCoy and Garrison drop out and let Trane and Elvin dialogue... Once Redman is in, things get more bound to fixed tempi, almost "grooves", sometimes. Agreed on the recording! Elvin is recorded very bottom-heavy, and that fits him verrrry well! That solo, maybe is the best of his, together with that astonishing solo he does on "Africa" (the master take of the "Africa/Brass" sessions). Astonishing, and a very pleasant listen to memorate the master. The disc is OOP for maybe a year or two, but I don't think it's rare already. I got mine from CDConnection or CDUniverse (both have it for roughly the same prize). ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Listening to Martin Siewert / Martin Brandlmayr "Too Beautiful to Burn" (Erstwhile, 2003) and enjoying it quite a bit. Will have to listen again to be able to write in greater detail, but this is good stuff, for sure. OK, I litened to this one again, and I like it a lot. I feel there is bit too much emphasis on beat sometimes (I would prefer it to be more abstract in rhythmical sense), but in any case it's a beautiful, mesmerizing work. Will be listening to more Erstwhile stuff today: "Fire Song" by Earl Howard / Denman Maroney and "Do" by Toshimaru Nakamura / Sachiko M. Funny thing, but I find myself spending more and more time listening to "natural environment" sounds. At this very moment they include very nice bird singing (several different birds), children playing in the yard, occasional passing car or train far at the background, very slight (but constant) buzz of a fan somewhere and flying airplanes once in a while. Not something particularly original for sure, but somehow last couple of weeks I tend to find it all fascinating enough to listen to attentively for quite long periods of time. Moroever, yestrerday it reached a certain extreme: I was listening to all these natural environment sounds and then decided to put Mingus' "Black Saint.."... started listening and in 10 minutes realized the music is somehow redundant (Mingus!!! "Black Saint..."!!!), turned it off and went back to listening (with great interest) to natural environment sounds. If it progresses like this, I might have all my CD collection for sales soon, he-he... I have not yet worked up the courage to listen to Do. Let me know what you think of Fire Song. In my opinion it is the least successful disc I have heard on Erstwhile. It never seemd to click for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Continuing working through the CD Baby package I recieved, and can highly recommend these three: Mark Taylor "Circle Squared". Beautiful stuff - excellent compositions (in advanced hard-bop vein), imaginative playing by all ivolved (Myra Melford in particular). Easy to enjoy. Stylistically close to OmniTone label releases (like marvellous Baikida Carroll's "Marionette on a Hight Wire"). I've had this disc on my list for a while. Mark posts over on Jazz Corner and seems to eb a really nice guy. I have heard many good things about this disc and will most likely buy it sometime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Another fantastic album on Ayler I heard this weekend is Mongezi Feza - Free Jam. Mongezi Feza tp, Bernt Rosengren, as, ts, fl, p, Tommy Koverhult, ts, fl, euphonium, Torbjörn Hultcranz, b, Leif Wennerström, dr, Okay Temiz, percussion. I was not familiar with anyone on this disc before hearing this and I was very impressed. The first disc starts off a bit slowly, as if the musicians were testing the waters and trying to figure out what they were going to do, but it quickly picks up and some great jamming ensues. There are some flubs and weak spots here and there but, overall, this is a fantastic album. It was recorded in 1972, but could easily pass for something much more current. At points on the second disc Feza sounds quite a bit like Toshinori Kondo, in the way he distorts the sounds coming from his trumpet. A very nice mix of African and European free jazz sensibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Another fantastic album on Ayler I heard this weekend is Mongezi Feza - Free Jam. Mongezi Feza tp, Bernt Rosengren, as, ts, fl, p, Tommy Koverhult, ts, fl, euphonium, Torbjörn Hultcranz, b, Leif Wennerström, dr, Okay Temiz, percussion. I think many of these musicians recorded wit Don Cherry whne he was living in Sweden. There is a nice disc on some Swedish label called Brotherhood Suite... and probably some others as well. And Don Cherry - what a musician!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Another fantastic album on Ayler I heard this weekend is Mongezi Feza - Free Jam. Mongezi Feza tp, Bernt Rosengren, as, ts, fl, p, Tommy Koverhult, ts, fl, euphonium, Torbjörn Hultcranz, b, Leif Wennerström, dr, Okay Temiz, percussion. I think many of these musicians recorded wit Don Cherry whne he was living in Sweden. There is a nice disc on some Swedish label called Brotherhood Suite... and probably some others as well. And Don Cherry - what a musician!!! I'll have to track that one down, it sounds great! Are any of you fans of Italian jazz? I am now listening to Pino Minafra's Sudori, which I very highly recommend. It is a fantastic disc! I had heard him as a sideman on other albums, but never as a leader before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 And there is of course the 2CD release on Verve or some european Universal or wherever, Vivendi... including Cherry's two Sonet albums. Beautiful stuff! I don't have lots of his music (yet), but "Brown Rice" is a very good one! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 (edited) Are any of you fans of Italian jazz? I am now listening to Pino Minafra's Sudori, which I very highly recommend. It is a fantastic disc! I had heard him as a sideman on other albums, but never as a leader before. I am quite a fan of Italian jazz. I was living in Italy for a year, so I started delving in Italian jazz, and it's a separate universe of own. Very distinctive approach to improvisational music (very melodic, lyrical and humorous.. even in totally free blowing), and tons of outstanding musicins that nobody outside of Italy has ever heard about. I will make a little writeup about Italian musicians. There are several god jazz labels focused on Italian improv muscians, Splasc(H) being the main one with its HUGE and consistently high-quality catalog (other nice ones include Via Veneto and Egea. A good place to start with Italian jazz is Italian Instabile Festival 2-CD on Leo, and then start checking the discographies of participants. Also, I would highly recommend checking several itams from the bargain bin of the Italian on-line CD store Jazzos.com: http://www.jazzos.com/db.cgi?db=default2&u...+Records&mh=999 - there are a couple of excellent (and cheap!) CDs here: Battaglia Stefano, Oxley Tony - Explore (Splasc(h) h304) - €7.90 (masterpiece) Fazio Enrico - Euphoria (Splasc(h) h327) - €4.90 (great Mingus-influenced stuff) Jazz Chromatic Ensemble - Skydreams (Splasc(h) h473) - €4.90 Negri Mauro, Kaucic Zlatko - Squarci (Splasc(h) h729) - €6.20 (masterpiece) New Emily - Alternate seasons (Splasc(h) h339) - €5.90 (insane blowing by Carlo Actis Dato) Nexus Orchestra - Seize the time! (2CD) (Splasch WS H841) - €14.90 (overall a bit dense, but still very good) Romano Furio - Danza delle streghe (Splasc(h) h318) - €4.90 (Italian take on Blue Note advanced '60s dates) Tononi Tiziano - We did it, we did it! (3CD) (Splasch WS h811) - 15.90 (also a good introduction to who-is-who in Italian jazz...3CD set!!!) As far as I remember, shipping rates are also very reasonable regardless of the destination. And if you are on Jazzos.com website, check out the Auand label releases as well - so good stuff there (both Italian and non-Italian). Edited June 21, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Great description of this music! I would add "joyful" to what you said. All of these albums are extremely vibrant, and full of joy. I have the Tononi, the Fazio and the Battaglia / Oxley. All three are great albums. Everyone on this board should check out the Tononi 3CD set. From all of the Italian Instabile discs I have heard my favorite is Litania Sibilante. I have never heard the live Festival disc. Gianluigi Trovesi is another favorite of mine. Fugace is a great disc, but I need to hear From G to G, which I have been told is his best work so far. I would also recommend Aldo Romano's Canzoni, which is a very romantic and subdued disc. Great for late night listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Hey, so you are not such a neophyte in Italian music! In any case, check out Mauro Negri, my favorite clarinetist (together with John Carter), who also plays some mean alto. The only "problem" with Italian music is that once you start with it, you need to get more - and there is A LOT of good stuff. It's an absolute shame that even among the conosseurs of improv music Italian musicians are totally unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2004 Report Share Posted June 21, 2004 Hey, so you are not such a neophyte in Italian music! In any case, check out Mauro Negri, my favorite clarinetist (together with John Carter), who also plays some mean alto. The only "problem" with Italian music is that once you start with it, you need to get more - and there is A LOT of good stuff. It's an absolute shame that even among the conosseurs of improv music Italian musicians are totally unknown. and most of it is quite expensive to obtain over here. I have never heard of Negri. Any album in particular that you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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