king ubu Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Just joking of course! Please tell us what's your opinion on Gebbia! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Guillermo Gregorio may be an acquired taste, but I really like this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 It's an older album that I played only once, so it was time to listen to it again and "see" if I'd really like it: and I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 (edited) Again: Not sure about this one now... Edit: I am now, I'm selling it. Edited March 27, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I really like this one a lot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Isn't it time for bed Hans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 ...and this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Isn't it time for bed Hans? Not yet, too much music lying around We're going to lose an hour anyway tonight (daylight saving time from 2 AM here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 (edited) UBU I like the guy very much, if I may judge by the TWO records that I have of him ( BODY LIMITS: SOLO FOR ALTO SAXOPHONE and, courtesy of David, ARCANA MAJOR/ SONIC TAROTS SESSION.) Aniway, he is maybe DA SHIT but none of his two solos rec. outclasses Braxton, Parker or even Joe McPhee in this exercice IMO. His two discs are really excellent but they are not touching the level that the master himself (I mean Braxton) has reach in his solos. FOR ALTO (Delmark) or ALTO SAXOPHONE IMPROVISATIONS (Arista) (just to named this two gems) stand still ahead of Gebbia's own. When listening to both you can easily guess that he has been influence a lot by Braxton even if his tone comes right from Ornette Coleman (so many influences to be digested here). ARCANA MAJOR is more diverse and interesting than BODY LIMITS who is more on the performance level (but at this game I prefered Evan Parker and, no, MONOCEROS is not monotonous, better give him another listening, David.) So, there is lot of promise in Gebbia but a limited accomplishment for the moment in his works. And he has also to proove that he can play at the same level than his solos when associates with others. I didn't kept CAPPUCCINI KLANG, bought some years ago for Kowald first, and without knowing Gebbia, because I thought the record lacked consistency. I'm not sure that the others trio or quartet he has recorded are much better than this one. And, no he is not self-sufficient as his number one supporter (guess to whom I'm talking here) thinks and professes (yuk, yuk!). Making a carreer as a solo player only, IMO, won't drive him nowhere on the long run, by the way. So GEBBIA will be (maybe) one of the great in the future, but he has some way to go before he can be considered the equal of the masters I named here. Edited March 29, 2004 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 (edited) I've listened to this one several times now, and it's not my cup of tea: As is well known to some posters here, I don't like vocalizing and there's just too much of it on this disc. It's also too mannered, too arty if you like, to my taste. Edited March 28, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 J.A.W., since you don'y like it, perhaps you'd be interested in selling it to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 J.A.W., since you don'y like it, perhaps you'd be interested in selling it to me? Peter, I put it up for auction here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 UBU I like the guy very much, if I may judge by the TWO records that I have of him ( BODY LIMITS: SOLO FOR ALTO SAXOPHONE and, courtesy of David, ARCANA MAJOR/ SONIC TAROTS SESSION.) Aniway, he is maybe DA SHIT but none of his two solos rec. outclasses Braxton, Parker or even Joe McPhee in this exercice IMO. His two discs are really excellent but they are not touching the level that the master himself (I mean Braxton) has reach in their solos. FOR ALTO (Delmark) or ALTO SAXOPHONE IMPROVISATIONS (Arista) (just to named this two gems) stand still ahead of Gebbia's own. When listening to both you can easily guess that he has been influence a lot by Braxton even if his tone comes right from Ornette Coleman (so many influences to be digested here). ARCANA MAJOR is more diverse and interesting than BODY LIMITS who is more on the performance level (but at this game I prefered Evan Parker and, no, MONOCEROS is not monotonous, better give him another listening, David.) So, there is lot of promise in Gebbia but a limited accomplishment for the moment in his works. And he has also to proove that he can play at the same level than his solos when associates with others. I didn't kept CAPPUCCINI KLANG, bought some years ago for Kowald first, and without knowing Gebbia, because I thought the record lacked consistency. I'm not sure that the others trio or quartet he has recorded are much better than this one. And, no he is not self-sufficient as his number one supporter (guess to whom I'm talking here) thinks and professes (yuk, yuk!). Making a carreer as a solo player only, IMO, won't drive him nowhere on the long run, by the way. So GEBBIA will be (maybe) one of the great in the future, but he has some way to go before he can be considered the equal of the masters I named here. Thanks for this reply! I appreciate reading your opinion. However, I cannot really add anything at this point, as my Braxton is still extremely thin, and I really do intend to cut down my CD expenses for several months... I have only one McPhee (Tenor & Fallen Angel), but I need to really listen to that one first. Also I need to spin the Gebbia (I only have Arcana Mayor, thanks to guess whom ) again soon. The point you make about Gebbia pursuing a solo career might be true, indeed. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Now here comes the rest of the information about the CD bonus track of Dennis Gonzalez "Stefan": Doxology (Gonzalez) 6:42 Dennis Gonzalez - tp Malachi Favors - b W.A. Richardson - d February 13, 1987 at Omega Audio, Dallas, Texas. I listened to the whole album today. I rather like it. There's some beautiful stuff on it - as the two short numbers, "Fortuity" and "Boi Fuba". What I do miss on this album (and this happens to me rather often on this sort of "multi-faceted", not to say disparate - in a positive way, I don't know a better word), is hearing more of the individual musicians - more solos, more stretching out etc. I love what Purcell (whom I never heard before, I might add) does on bass clarinet on the first track. Also, Franklin has a few good spots. But still all in all, I'd wish to hear more of it. More of all that's included on this album, so that's not necessarily a negative statement, as it also means I did not get bored. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Then I just had my first listen to "Mujician I & II" - GREAT!!! However, two questions: the CD has some flaws (left/right channel problems, and one or two moments of distortion) - is this a problem of my particular CD, or is this a problem that happened during the recording? Also there's some applause after #5, "I Hear Your Voice Again", but after like two seconds, it gets cut short, and rather brutally. Second: what are the exact recording dates? On my disc, it says #1,2,5 recorded Dec. 3 & 4, 1981 (that's "All Time", I've Got The Map", and "I Hear Your Voice"), and #4,5 recorded June 13, 1986 (that's "Dan Pt.2" and "I Hear Your Voice" again). I guess it should read #3,4 June 13, 1986? Then a third question: does this CD include ALL of the two first "Mujician" albums? And a fourth: is the third "Mujician" also on CD, and as good as the disc I have? thanks, ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Now the other disc I listened today is the Sclavis "Ellington on the Air", again. It's a marvellous album! Robert is great on trombone, and the electric violin does not bother me too often, in fact he provides some great sounds here and there. Then, Bruno Chevillon is one of the best bass players around recently, in my opinion. Is the IDA label gone for good? Here's a listing of their releases: http://jazzlabels.klacto.net/ida.html ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 (edited) Regarding Gebbia, I agree that Arcana Major is by far his strongest work (form what I've heard), and Gebbia's ensemble works are not entirely successful (also, from what I've heard). We'll see what his next disc will be like (it's a trio with (a very good) percussionist Garth Powell, who can be heard with Gebbia on People in Motion (Rastascan) and pianist Matthew Goodheart (who I don't know, but his discs have very positive reviews at AMG: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...=B9gq6g4gmtv3z). The disc will be released on Evander) P.L.M., I cannot say that I am too knowledgeable about Braxton's solo work - I have his solo on Leo (Milano, I think), which I enjoyed a lot and his 2-CD solo on Parallactic which I haven't listened to yet. I still have to get For Alto. In any case I would have porblems comparing the two - I think they are too different (actually, comparing any two creative musicians is a pretty thankless and useless task, IMO). Ubu, McPhee's "Tenor and Fallen Angels" is incredible to my mind - I would be interested in hearing your opinion. Edited March 28, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Then, Bruno Chevillon is one of the best bass players around recently, in my opinion. Totally agree! What I really what to hear one day is the following trio (live, preferably): Sclavis - Chevillon - some fast and "propulsive" drummer (Roy Haynes type...). Chevillon definitely can push Sclavis to extremes, and having the right drummer would probably give such a trio a more aggressive feel that I miss in (nice, nonetheless) Sclavis-Texier-Romano trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 It's an older album that I played only once, so it was time to listen to it again and "see" if I'd really like it: and I do I've been avoiding buying aby of the OOP hatARTs, but this one is porbably very unlikely to be ever reissued, so I think I'll go for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 What's the word on Wadada Leo Smith? I picked up his Tao Nija a few months ago, and also got his Kabell box. I have only listened to TN and the stuff from Kabell 1 so far. Liked it pretty much. Hope to find time to listen to more of the Kabell stuff soon. uh-hu-hu - tomorrow's Stanko-night! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 OK, now tell me - who snapped the copy of the Rara Avis from the Offering forum?!?!? It is one of you, I know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 OK, now tell me - who snapped the copy of the Rara Avis from the Offering forum?!?!? It is one of you, I know that Well, it sure isn't me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 OK, now tell me - who snapped the copy of the Rara Avis from the Offering forum?!?!? It is one of you, I know that Well, it sure isn't me. Well, then it must be Chaney, who obviously took time off from posting especialy to concentrate on searching for Rara Avis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 OK, now tell me - who snapped the copy of the Rara Avis from the Offering forum?!?!? It is one of you, I know that Well, it sure isn't me. Well, then it must be Chaney, who obviously took time off from posting especialy to concentrate on searching for Rara Avis I may be wrong, but he certainly didn't give me that impression... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Another older album I dug up: Hadn't listened to it for quite a while, and I was pleasantly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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