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I got Vario-41 at the TMM in Berlin last fall - still haven't listened to it. The CD packaging is some of the most bizarre I've encountered so far.

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Looks pretty but I can't quite make out what it's made of.

This is some hairy softish materisl, of the kind that's used for thermo-isolation. Looks very utilitarian.
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I got my Ayler order in the meantime:

- Wallin: The Stockholm Tapes

- Brötz: Nefertiti

- Gahnold: Flowers for Johnny

- Feza: Free Jam

and as a freebie I got

- Bayashi (Vidar Johansen, Bjornar Andresen, Thomas Stronen): Help is on its Way

Anyone knows the last one? Never heard of either of the three guys!

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I believe I've discovered another use for this mysterious blue textile.

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This from bassist Damon Smith over on Bags:

By the way, the new Christmann cds "Vario 41" and "Mal Du Archive 2" are amazing in terms of performances and packaging.

you can see them at the links below.

The vario cd package is a play on Joseph Beuys' felt postcard multiple.

http://efi.group.shef.ac.uk/labels/explico/explico13.html

http://efi.group.shef.ac.uk/labels/explico/explico14.html

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I got my Ayler order in the meantime:

- Wallin: The Stockholm Tapes

- Brötz: Nefertiti

- Gahnold: Flowers for Johnny

- Feza: Free Jam

and as a freebie I got

- Bayashi (Vidar Johansen, Bjornar Andresen, Thomas Stronen): Help is on its Way

Anyone knows the last one? Never heard of either of the three guys!

I had ordered and have received

aylCD-007

John Stevens Trio

Live at The Plough (Sounds boring.)

John Stevens, dr

Mike Osborne, as

Paul Rogers, b

aylCD-010

Return Of The New Thing (Sounds wonderful)

Traque

Dan Warburton, p, vln

Francois Fuchs, b

Jean-Luc Guionnet, as, ss

Edward Perraud, dr

aylCD-032

Per Henrik Wallin Trio

The Stockholm Tapes

Per Henrik Wallin, p

Lars-Göran Ulander, as

Peter Olsen, dr

aylCD-035

The Electrics

Chain of Accidents

Sture Ericson, ts, bs, bcl

Axel Dörner, tp, slide tp

Ingebrigt Håker Flaten, b

Raymond Strid, dr

aylCD-047

Jemeel Moondoc Tentet

Jus Grew Orchestra

Live at the Vision Festival 2001

Jemeel Moondoc, as, conduction

Zane Massey, ts

Michael Marcus, bs

Roy Campbell, tp

Nathan Breedlove, tp

Steve Swell, tb

Tyron Hill, tb

Bern Nix, g

John Voigt, b

Gerald Cleaver, dr

And my freebie:

aylCD-053

Bayashi

Help Is On Its Way

Vidar Johansen, ts, bcl, fl

Bjørnar Andresen, b

Thomas Strønen, dr

Never heard of them. I'm guessing that Bayashi ain't a big seller.

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For anyone interested, here's the available material from Christmann's Edition Explico:

explico 05

VARIO - 34

Christmann, Frangenheim, Gustafsson, Lehn, Lovens, Munthe

Recorded October 1993

explico 04

PAROLE / soundpoetry

Elke Schipper (voice, composition)

Gunter Christmann (cello, trombone)

Recorded 1994

explico 07

alla prima

Gunter Christmann (sello, trombone)

Alexander Frangenheim (double-bass)

Recorded June 29, 1997

explico 10

temps duree

Thomas Lehn (electronics)

Gunter Christmann (cello, trombone)

Recorded October 23 & 23, 1998

150 copies each numbered, 20 copies marked e.a.

explico / cod

here now - solos / duos -

Evan Parker (saxophones)

Gunter Christmann (cello, trombone)

Recorded January 1998

explico / cod

VARIO - 34/2 - water always writes in plural

Munthe, Lovens, Lehn, Gustafsson, Frangenheim, Christmann

Recorded July 1998

explico / MOMU

sometimes crosswise

Gunter Christmann: solos-duos-groups

(u.a. with Lovens, Greiner, Gustafsson, Malfatti, Hahall,...)

Recorded 1991/92

explico 11 / cod 07

mal d’ archive

Serge Baghdassarians (guitar / electronics)

Boris Baltschun (electronics)

Gunter Christmann (cello, trombone)

Recorded July 2001

explico 12 / cod 08

(for) friends and neighbors

Phil Minton (vocal)

Gunter Christmann (cello, trombone)

Recorded October 2001

explico 13

mal d’ archive 2

Baghdassarians, Baltschun, Christmann

Recorded 2004

explico 15

VARIO - 41

Butscher, Baltschun, Griener, Christmann

Recorded March 2004

explico d1 / DVD

con moto

interaction of music, dance, film and soundpoetry

with David Zambrano, Fine Kwiatkowski, Leimgruber, Frangenheim, Schipper, Christmann

Recorded October 2003

Duration: 59:00

explico / ZKM - Karlsruh

in actu

interaction of music and painting

(Lovens, Christmann, Sonderborg, Hannen)

Recorded December 1993 as LP, DVD and also as VHS-Video with textbook

++++++++++

Having had no idea who Fine Kwiatkowski was...

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Check out her site, and especially her vids.

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Played the Gahnold and liked it a lot! Nothing too deep, just some good blowing, and Dyani... Gilbert Mathews I only heard with Ibrahim so far - quite nice to hear him in this setting, where he's got much more space to stretch and really play!

Then I also played the freebie, Bayashi: old-fashioned free jazz, but quite ok. The drummer is pretty good, I think. Will have to play it again to be able to say more about it, though.

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I'd second these AMM suggestions of John's:

Newfoundland

Live in Allentown

Before Driving to the Chapel

AMMusic 1966 is the early, non-Tilbury incarnation, much closer to free noise, I'd say try that or the Crypt later. the second disc of Laminal is a career high point, but it's only sold as part of the 3 CD set.

I'd add Fine and Generative Themes to the three above, that'll give you a nice picture of the band with both Tilbury and Rowe.

I'm also obviously biased, but I'd say Duos for Doris is a stronger record than any AMM release, not sure if you've heard that or not.

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From the European Free Improv site:

Günter Christmann has issued, on Explico, Mal d'archive 2 with himself alongside Serge Baghdassarians and Boris Baltschun and Vario-41 by Boris Baltschun/John Butcher/Günter Christmann/Michael Griener in a limited edition of 150 numbered copies.

Anyone familiar with Edition Explico? With Günter Christmann?

I got Vario-41 at the TMM in Berlin last fall - still haven't listened to it.

Listened to Vario-41, and I htough it was quite weak - no interesting ideas (even from Butcher), no development, regular free-improv noodling. This might be the least successful deisc with Butcher I've heard so far.

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Has anyone here heard this disc:

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Cooper-Moore - Deep in the Neighborhood of History and Influence (Hopscotch)

This is a live solo set recorded in Guelph in 1999. Cooper-Moore travels from fiery Cecil Taylor-esque avant garde to blues and swing as he pays tribute to the musicians that influenced and inspired him. The recording sounds great and this is some of the best Cooper-Moore I have ever heard. It is nice to hear him step out from the sideman's role he usually plays and really stretch out.

Highly recommended.

I got this one and gave it a couple of listens - it is simly great. Cooper-Moore is the only pianist who approaches the healthy eclectism of Jaki Byard (who is probably my all-time favorite pianist), seemlessly going through the whole history of the piano playing - form boogie to cecilesque to some brekneck tempo minimalist-type of passges. He is in a truly exuberant mood at this concert and often interrupts his playing with some stories (the guy loves to talk), which are (just as his music) jumping from one thing to another in a blink of an eye, but are really heartfelt and entertaining. The man is the music whether he talks or plays. Excellent sound, as John notes. I wish he recorded more solo. I got COoper-Moore's recent trio disc (on AUM) but haven't listened to it yet - but I can't imagine him doing all these wonders in a trio format.
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RIVERS is one of the very great.

I think than our friend AA goes much banana this late - He gives up on BRAXTON!? A(h)A(h).

P.L.M., my friend, I went banana long time ago - nothing new here, Messrs. Rivers and Braxton have nothing to do with it.

Regarding Braxton, I have been invariably disppointed by his recent releases (duos with Cyrille, solo on Parallactic, etc.), culminating with horrendous 23 Standards set. I feel that the man ran out of ideas, and to a large extent of his (once-brilliant) technique - his sound is flat and not particualrly under control (IMO). Just listen to one of his earlier solo records back-to-back with any of his recent works - it is self-evident. I also was never a fan of Braxton-the-composer - his compositions sound to me extremely formal, dry and forced.

Regarding Rivers, I tend to appreciate his compositions much more than his playing (it was interesting to read that Joe Henderson had the same opinion).

His sound I find too dry for my taste with not enough depth, and I just cannot appreciate his improvisations - to me he sounds like he is always preparing to break loose but still holds himself back with solos never reaching a climax. I normally cannot keep myself interested listening to Rivers solos. Vista is excellent, though, so I might revisit some of the earlier Rivers CDs I have not listened to for years.

Don't have time for the moment but will answer as soon as possible.

Of course, I disagree with you on everything.

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AMM:

Newfoundland

disc 2 of Laminal

Live in Allentown

Before Driving to the Chapel

AMMMusic

AMMMusic will be the least expensive for you to try. The discs on Matchless are pretty pricey with the current exchange rate.

Inexhaustible Document

...exchange rates notwithstanding, The Crypt is a motherfucker. I have it on a double LP, but you get more music with the CDs. Like, way more.

To Hear and Back Again and At the Roundhouse, both Gare-Prevost duos, are pretty amazing sets, though not quite the same as the 'usual' AMM fare.

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Thanks to everyone for the AMM recommendations. I believe I'll soon place and order... and pick up Deep in the Neighborhood of History and Influence.

I'm disappointed to hear that you, David, do not care for VARIO-41. Damn! And that Edition Explico order cost me a bundle.

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Anyone familar with the Durian label? Looks interesting but the label's North American distribution is very spotty and at 18 Euros each direct, a bit too expensive for this Yankee. 7/4? Sounds like sounds you might be into.

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Elephant 666 Orchestra - free album download

Posted by Lars Gotrich (Thursday February 16 2006 @ 12:56PM MST)

Long time lurker, first time poster....

Ladies and gentlemen, The Crisis! Compendium by the improv noise/metal/free-jazz/skronk Elephant 666 Orchestra is now available for download in two zip files. Someday I might print up a limited edition run or approach some internet labels about releasing it, but I just want to get it out there, especially for the musicians who haven't heard the album, yet. The Orchestra is an extension, I suppose, of a little project my friends and I had, but I stole the name and used it for a group of improvisers that I organized together every Sunday night at WUOG (Athens, GA) last summer to make noise for two hours. The revolving group of musicians included members of Telenovela/The Mooninites, We Versus the Shark, Anti-Music as well as h'arpeggione player Erik Hinds, who I know posts here every now and again.

Here are the links:

http://rapidshare.de/files/13364973/Elepha...stra_Disc_1.zip

http://rapidshare.de/files/13364295/Elepha...stra_Disc_2.zip

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Insubordinations [netlabel for improvised music]

Posted by insub (Sunday February 12 2006 @ 08:00AM MST) views: 33

Insubordinations is a netlabel dedicated to improvised music - freejazz or electroacoustic or other experimentations - catched without artifices, energy explosions, spontaneous constructions, abused structures, unstabilities, confrontations or simply absolute liberty.

the 2 first releases are online.

insubordinations

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A humorous exchange from over at the Bay Area New Music site:

Damon Smith:

7:30 pm friday feb. 17th @ temescal cafe 4920 telegraph

improvised music for trombone and double bass

Jen Baker..............................................trombone

Damon Smith......................................double bass

http://www.balancepointacoustics.com

http://www.bayimproviser.com/jenbaker

Gino Robair:

So we must have changed this list to a concert announcement list?

That's cool:

I'm sitting in with a band called Oingo Boingo tonight at a Valentine's Day

Frat Party at Bolt Hall. Bring your own keg.

Gino Robair....................drums

Oingo Boingo...................balls-out frat-party vibe

http://www.fratpartyvibe.com/oingoboingo

Http://www.ginosellsouttocoverhismortgage.net

Brady Sharp:

Awesome! Can I bring my laptop? I'm beta-testing this new Kelly

LeBrock cloning software. It'll be a hit with the frat boys and

they'll accept me.

The best thing is... it's open source! Screw Micro$oft!

Brady

(Chortling nerdily as he slaps Gino a hi-five)

Phillip Greenlief:

It's "Boldt", not "Bolt".

Hoppy Villiantine's Doi!

I'm celebrating my birthday solo-style at El Zocalo.

There are no invitations - no one is invited.

Dead Man's Party indeed...

Damon Smith:

since i already posted this, i should mention they have a very

respectable new sausage platter for $4. tried it today.

damon

END

I really do live on the wrong side on this country.

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For the American rats:

Jazzloft.com has a sale on all Black Saint / Soul Note CDs - $15 per piece. Does not make much sense for us in Europe (there are a could pof good sources for these releases here9, but I assume this is the best price you can get itn the US. I will post a list of some of my favorite BS/SN discs later.

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Yes David, please tell us about those good sources!

My collection of Blacksaint and Soulnote discs is still pretty thin, but here are some favourites:

** Black Saint **

120006-2 In:Sanity Beaver Harris 360 Degree Music Experience

120040-2 FLAT-OUT JUMP SUITE JULIUS HEMPHILL QUARTET

120093-2 IN WILLISAU DEWEY REDMAN -ED BLACKWELL

** Soul Note **

121020-2 GASLINI PLAYS MONK GIORGIO GASLINI

121054-2 REGENERATION RUDD -LACY -MENGELBERG -CARTER -BENNINK

121170-2 SEMPRE AMORE MAL WALDRON-STEVE LACY

121298-2 COMMINIQUÉ STEVE LACY-MAL WALDRON

121311-2 LES HOMMES ARMÉS GIANLUIGI TROVESI OCTET

121340-2 BALADE DU 10 MARS MARTIAL SOLAL TRIO

121350/1-2 L' INTEGRALE - CD N° 1-CD N° 2 GIORGIO GASLINI

And some "good fun but nothing all that great" ones:

** Black Saint **

120008-2 TRICKLES STEVE LACY-ROSWELL RUDD

120021-2 JUNK TRAP CHARLES BOBO SHAW HUMAN ARTS ENSEMBLE

120109-2 VOODOO SONNY CLARK MEMORIAL QUARTET

120123-2 LIVING ON THE EDGE DEWEY REDMAN QUARTET (not sure this deserves being listed...)

120182-2 FLOOD AT THE ANT FARM PHILLIP JOHNSTON'S BIG TROUBLE

** Soul Note **

121185-2 THE WINDOW STEVE LACY TRIO

121229-2 THE PONDERER THE ODEAN POPE SAXOPHONE CHOIR (I know, P.L.M., I know... :g )

121270-2 AYLER'S WINGS GIORGIO GASLINI

121282-2 THE SUN DIED ELLERY ESKELIN

I also have two Glenn Spearman's that are at least good, but not being sure which ones they are, I rather don't post wrong ones... I think one is "Smokehouse", the other I'm not sure about.

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I too wouldn't mind recommendations on Black Saint and Soul Note titles -- thanks Flurin! -- but North American Rats should be aware -- or be made aware -- that this Jazz Loft sale is no great shakes as Cadence already sells the offerings of both labels at $15 each.

All too often, when it comes to sales, The Jazz Loft is late to the table.

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Jon,

How would you rate the AMM set in Boston a few years back relative to the discs you recommended to Chaney?

huh. I don't like to compare recordings and concerts, two different animals. the Boston show (the one that was part of Autumn Uprising) was the best of the AMM sets I saw (somewhere around 10, I think). why do you ask?

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huh. I don't like to compare recordings and concerts, two different animals. the Boston show (the one that was part of Autumn Uprising) was the best of the AMM sets I saw (somewhere around 10, I think). why do you ask?

I'm curious about your "recordings vs. concerts" comment.

Aren't all AMM discs the recordings of live concerts? Did AMM know in advance that a concert would be released or were all shows recorded and select shows were chosen for release after the fact?

I asked about the Boston show as it is available in trading circles and would be a nice way for Chaney to test the waters before placing an order for imported discs he might not care for. That's all.

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recordings are recordings and concerts are concerts, two different experiences, even if the recordings are of live shows. a memory of a concert isn't really a fair comparison to a recording that you play through your stereo and can revisit multiple times, it's just apples and oranges.

the Boston recording floating around doesn't do a great job of capturing the feeling that was in that room that night, although I haven't heard it in a while.

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I asked about the Boston show as it is available in trading circles and would be a nice way for Chaney to test the waters before placing an order for imported discs he might not care for. That's all.

A wonderful board member who shall remain nameless (!yrag sknaht) is sending me his unloved copy of Newfoundland so I'll be getting a free taste of AMM.

Jon: I do have Duos For Doris. I haven't listened to it in a long time but the last go 'round, I did my usual whining: HOW CAN ANYONE LIKE THIS CRAP! Unfamiliar sounds tend to throw me and so I put the recording aside for another day. I whined in a similar (no doubt) irritating manner over John's Avatar; I really should give both a fresh spin.

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