Guest Chaney Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 (edited) I've seen Drake one time -- with Brotz and Parker -- and was transfixed. Seemed like a really nice guy. Kinda shy. ~~~~~~~~~~ Inscape-Tableaux. Gads. I've had that one for months and never did get back to it, after initially being frightened away like a child during a thunderstorm. Now might be the time to face my fears. ~~~~~~~~~~ Got a package from Gino Robair today: Wavelength Infinity: A Sun Ra Tribute (Late got me into Ra and I've been a happy boy ever since. Anyone seen Late of late? He's been AWOL these past two months.) David Tohair and His Backbone: Angels Dancing in Virga (with Boisen, Bobrowski, Caldwell, Christopherson, Keller, Robair, Udvardi and Scott Vance) Pluto: Shoehorse Emerging Wolfgang Fuchs: Six Fuchs (with Djil, Perkis, Robair, Shiurba & Matthew Sperry - his last date.) Randy McKean: So Dig This Big Crux (with Smoker, Gress & Phil Haynes) Butcher / Masaoka / Robair: Gorilla Mosaics Edited June 20, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Can't believe this is only my 2nd post to this thread! Can any body direcxt me to the Hamid Drake bashing thread? I dig him and am curious. Thanks. ← I'm with Peter. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know as much (by MILES!) about the scene as you guys, but Drake is mighty fine as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 ← I hardly post here anymore and I'm still in fifth place?? What's the matter with you guys? ← I foresee Jazzmoose overtaking you (Mr. Lazybones ) any day now. Only two days into 5kx2 and he's already contributed two posts. Peter is also coming on strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) I foresee Jazzmoose overtaking you (Mr. Lazybones ) any day now. Only two days into 5kx2 and he's already contributed two posts. Peter is also coming on strong. ← Well...I finally said screw it; I'll never catch up, and skipped to the recent posts a couple of days ago... Edited June 21, 2005 by Jazzmoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Smart move, Mark. This is all pretty random so it's hardly necessary to read every post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Got a package from Gino Robair today: Wavelength Infinity: A Sun Ra Tribute (Late got me into Ra and I've been a happy boy ever since. Anyone seen Late of late? He's been AWOL these past two months.) David Tohair and His Backbone: Angels Dancing in Virga (with Boisen, Bobrowski, Caldwell, Christopherson, Keller, Robair, Udvardi and Scott Vance) Pluto: Shoehorse Emerging Wolfgang Fuchs: Six Fuchs (with Djil, Perkis, Robair, Shiurba & Matthew Sperry - his last date.) Randy McKean: So Dig This Big Crux (with Smoker, Gress & Phil Haynes) Butcher / Masaoka / Robair: Gorilla Mosaics ← Of these I have only Butcher / Masaoka / Robair: Gorilla Mosaics, and it's a great one. Oh, actually, I have this Randy McKean record CD as well - it's OK, but not particularly outstanding - fairly typical ornettish stuff with McKean himself being the lest interesting of the soloists. Smoker is predictably excellent. Edited June 21, 2005 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 ← I hardly post here anymore and I'm still in fifth place?? What's the matter with you guys? ← I foresee Jazzmoose overtaking you (Mr. Lazybones ) any day now. Only two days into 5kx2 and he's already contributed two posts. Peter is also coming on strong. ← I wish I could contribute more to this thread. However I don't tend to keep too up to date with current trends in experimental jazz music. I'm normally a few years behind, since I mostly buy whatever is heavily discounted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Wow, looks like the Hamid Drake backlash continues. One day he's amazing, the next he's not. C'mon folks. Kinda old school but for what he does, he's pretty darned awesome. Just not the most creative player on the scene. That being said, the funk thang is disturbing. (Only natural, I suppose, to see players as same old same old after a while.) ← I don't know about "most creative player on the scene," but Hamid rocks my world. I really enjoy just about every recording I have with him on it. ← Agreed. I've seen him when he came with FRED ANDERSON in 1978 in Moers. The guy was already amazing. Check the PAUL DUNMALL QUARTET: LOVE WARMTH AND COMPASSION on FMR, one of the best DUNMALL ever. DRAKE is the drummer and it's his first encounter with DUNMALL where he prooves that he fits absolutely perfectly with the band (add PAUL ROGERS & PHIL GIBBS.) After all, he was the drummer who have boost seriously the career of PETER BRÖTZMANN at the beginning of the nineties. Hope his collaboration with DUNMALL will continued. He likes to play groove and funk alright (and he does it better than most) but he can be also be FREE as hell. And he is a great guy to meet and talk. Hugh! ← I'll check out this Dunmall CD - sounds very interesting. Drake is indeed perfect with Brötzmann on their duo Dried Rat Dog (Okka). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Some more on music: I recently got the new Barry Guy New Orchestra disc, Oort-Entropy (same lineup as on Inscape-Tableux but with Agusti Fernandez in Crispell's place, upon the latter's recommendation), consists of three long-ish sections with many of Guy's by now signature music making components/tools and I understand from the liner notes that parts of each section draw from compositions that appear on the two discs by the Guy/Crispell/Lytton trio. Each section is preambled, I believe that was the very word Guy uses in describing them, by bass/reed duets - first with Koch, then Parker, and finally with Gustafsson. I've only given the disc two cursory spins so far but (1) it's very nicely though a little too closely recorded for my taste, the engineer is neither Pfister nor Pearson - don't have the disc handy, sorry, (2) overall, the immediate impressions are somewhere in between, some great moments here and there though. Anyway will try to say more about how I like the music after another spin. ← This is the music that blew David and me away, when we heard/saw it performed live. Weird enough - I konw I promised to transfer the sets long time ago... - the recordings (both of the Zurich concert we saw, and the Basel concert the day before) do not have nearly as much of an impact at me. And interestingly I met someone else who was blown away by the live performance and caught the radio broadcast later, but didn't even recognize it, until when it was over the announcer said what it was. Strange! Drake is indeed perfect with Brötzmann on their duo Dried Rat Dog (Okka). ← YESSIR! The dried rat dog is a terrific disc, indeed! Highly recommended, and in its own way a perfect successor to the other-worldly "Insterstellar Space" album of Coltrane/Rashied! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Drake is indeed perfect with Brötzmann on their duo Dried Rat Dog (Okka). ← YESSIR! The dried rat dog is a terrific disc, indeed! Highly recommended, and in its own way a perfect successor to the other-worldly "Insterstellar Space" album of Coltrane/Rashied! ← Just a little nostalgic circular reference to the first days of The Rat: I guess you all have this one, but as I recently got it and love it very much, I thought I'd nevertheless mention it here: A great GREAT record! ubu ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Hehehehe... nostalgic rats, us! Btw: the Guy was recorded again in studio (I think in Germany - maybe that's why they did not have Pfister or Pearson). Pearson probably did the Zurich set, but I can't say for sure. Maybe they indeed found the live recordings to be lacking *on record*, in some respect? An interesting case, for sure, that shows how much a live concert can differ from a mere "phonographic print" of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Hehehehe... nostalgic rats, us! ← I'm going to pull out both Funny Rat and Daredevil tomorrow. I might as well join in the nostalgia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Hehehehe... nostalgic rats, us! ← I'm going to pull out both Funny Rat and Daredevil tomorrow. I might as well join in the nostalgia! ← Don't have Funny Rat, but will do my Dried Rat Dog and Daredevil duties this week. Edited June 21, 2005 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Don't have Funny Rat and Daredevil - is the later this one? She's good in the looks department, but I'd never treat me to such stupid films... I did enjoy "Alias" though (confession fits nostalgia -_- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Don't have Funny Rat, ← The most shocking confession I have seen here in quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I can better that: I had Funny Rat but sold it on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I can better that: I had Funny Rat but sold it on eBay. ← sometimes I feel like I don't even know you anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Don't have Funny Rat, ← The most shocking confession I have seen here in quite a while. ← John believe me, I tired ordering it (from Erstwhile) but received a solo Shoji Hano disc (haven't listened to it yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Drake is indeed perfect with Brötzmann on their duo Dried Rat Dog (Okka). ← Gotta give an AMEN to this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Check the PAUL DUNMALL QUARTET: LOVE WARMTH AND COMPASSION on FMR, one of the best DUNMALL ever. ← Since we are at it, could you recommend 10 or so FMR releases? I've been planning to buy some of their stuff (and they have pretty good prices for a UK label), but too lazy to go through all the descriptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Not much a specialist of FMR (who made the most crapy digit pack I've ever seen, by the way). I'll give you just the few titles I have and like. PAUL DUNMAL SEXTET: SHOOTERS HILL PAUL DUNMALL: SOLO BAGPIPES (SHAWBACCANDSIED) - that one is magnificent. PAUL DUNMALL/ TONY BIANCO/ JOHN EDWARDS/ JOHN ADAMS: OUT FROM THE CAGE THE INTUITIVE ART ENSEMBLE: NOW - with DUNMALL again in a collective quartet featuring NEIL MELCALFE (flûte), PHILIPPE GIBBS (guitar), ANDREW BALL (piano, celeste), TREVOR TAYLOR (percussions and "sound sculptures"), HILARY JEFFREYS (trombone) and DUNMALL (on saxes & "invented instruments"). GEORG GRAEWE, KENT KESSLER, HAMID DRAKE: FOR TRIO (16 FANTASIESTÜCKE) JON LlOYD SEXTET: PRAXIS EVAN PARKER/PHILIPP WACHSMANN/ HUGH DAVIES/EDDIE PREVOST: 888 TREVOR WATTS' AMALGAM: INNOVATION Sorry, just short of ten. Don't now if they all fit your taste, though. Don't think so. Edited June 21, 2005 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jazzmoose Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Anyone familiar with the John Law discs they have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 Not much a specialist of FMR (who made the most crapy digit pack I've ever seen, by the way). I'll give you just the few titles I have and like. PAUL DUNMAL SEXTET: SHOOTERS HILL PAUL DUNMALL: SOLO BAGPIPES (SHAWBACCANDSIED) - that one is magnificent. PAUL DUNMALL/ TONY BIANCO/ JOHN EDWARDS/ JOHN ADAMS: OUT FROM THE CAGE THE INTUITIVE ART ENSEMBLE: NOW - with DUNMALL again in a collective quartet featuring NEIL MELCALFE (flûte), PHILIPPE GIBBS (guitar), ANDREW BALL (piano, celeste), TREVOR TAYLOR (percussions and "sound sculptures"), HILARY JEFFREYS (trombone) and DUNMALL (on saxes & "invented instruments"). GEORG GRAEWE, KENT KESSLER, HAMID DRAKE: FOR TRIO (16 FANTASIESTÜCKE) JON LlOYD SEXTET: PRAXIS EVAN PARKER/PHILIPP WACHSMANN/ HUGH DAVIES/EDDIE PREVOST: 888 TREVOR WATTS' AMALGAM: INNOVATION Sorry, just short of ten. Don't now if they all fit your taste, though. Don't think so. ← Thanks P.L.M. I made an order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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