Д.Д. Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 I'm confident that the wondrous Dal Vivo! will be more to your liking. Tony, you are a sadistic, immoral individual. ----------------------- Gentlemen, I feel deeply offended - nobody ever accused me of listening to new age (well... hmm... Tony has these 30 Cold Blue CDs that somebody ordered using my credit card...). Next time I'll recommend some death metal CD - I'll see what you say then (hmmm... might not work - some death metal will sound like new age for this weird John B guy)! Could I have misplaced the CDs and have been listening to Taylor-Lyons-Murray CD instead or "ARP Music" all along ? Quote
John B Posted April 3, 2005 Report Posted April 3, 2005 I'm confident that the wondrous Dal Vivo! will be more to your liking. If we don't end up watching a movie I'll be playing this one during dinner. I'll let you know our reactions. Quote
jon abbey Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 you guys know me really well, thanks for thinking of me. David, what's the solo Marhaug like? he's supposed to trade us a bunch of his stuff soon, so I'll probably end up hearing a lot of his discography, but I'm curious to learn more about him, since his duo with Pita here a few weeks ago was so strong. is it wall-of-noisy or mellower than that? does it jump around, is there any silence incorporated, or is it pretty constant and linear? he's got quite a range, I know he's working on a solo disc for Mark Wastell's Confront Collector's Series, which tends towards the minimal. tons of concerts here the last few weeks, after I literally went three months without seeing one. tonight was a DMG instore of the duo of Tony Buck and Nate Wooley, nicely minimal improv with a pretty constant flow of ideas, pretty enjoyable. Quote
John B Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Jon, will ErstDist be stocking any of these or is this a personal trade? Quote
jon abbey Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Jon, will ErstDist be stocking any of these or is this a personal trade? Chris knows the specifics better than me, Lasse wants to trade for quite a bit of the Erst catalog, but he only has limited copies of his own stuff, so I think only a few per title, but I really don't know. I have that Thirteen Ghosts CD, as Nate says, Thurston and Bailey don't play together, although I have seen them do that (in trio with Loren Connors, and I believe in duo also), it was surprisingly good as I recall. the other Thirteen Ghosts disc is better, with the also awesome title "Giganti Reptilicus Destructo Beam". this is on the long defunct Scatter label, which was based in Glasgow, and was one of the first labels to take a serious interest in documenting free improv incorporating live electronics. Quote
Д.Д. Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 David, what's the solo Marhaug like? he's supposed to trade us a bunch of his stuff soon, so I'll probably end up hearing a lot of his discography, but I'm curious to learn more about him, since his duo with Pita here a few weeks ago was so strong. is it wall-of-noisy or mellower than that? does it jump around, is there any silence incorporated, or is it pretty constant and linear? he's got quite a range, I know he's working on a solo disc for Mark Wastell's Confront Collector's Series, which tends towards the minimal. Definitely not a wall-of-noisy music. Marhaus sound palette is fairly limited here (think about battle scenes from the films on WWII), but he does manage to achieve quite a bit of dynamic vaariety. No silence, but no all-out aggresive noisy stuff either. All very focused and fairly reserved. There are even some snippets of "guitar" melody at the end, which he plays with. My knowledge of this sort of music is too limited to give any stylistical reference - so this is the best description I can come up with at the moment. Quote
John B Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 I am listening to Giovanni Mirabassi - Dal Vivo! (Sketch) right now. Words fail me. I will have to repay the kind stranger who sent this to me. Perhaps a nice selection by George Winston would be appropriate... Quote
Guest Chaney Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Time to destroy all evidence of my current life and assume a new identity. You did listen three times before forming an opinion, right? Did your family also hear Dal Vivo!? I'd be curious to hear what they thought. Good luck on playing this one forward. Quote
John B Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Time to destroy all evidence of my current life and assume a new identity. You did listen three times before forming an opinion, right? Did your family also hear Dal Vivo!? I'd be curious to hear what they thought. Good luck on playing this one forward. No, just the one listen, so far. Somehow I don't think that two additional listens will reveal the complex mysteries of this musical pearl. As I read somewhere: "you can't polish a turd." Sorry, but this one isn't going to get any better with time. We ate dinner without music, so my wife was spared. I was going to buy a birthday present for my father tonight. I think I might have the perfect gift already here... Quote
Д.Д. Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 Time to destroy all evidence of my current life and assume a new identity. You did listen three times before forming an opinion, right? Did your family also hear Dal Vivo!? I'd be curious to hear what they thought. Good luck on playing this one forward. No, just the one listen, so far. Somehow I don't think that two additional listens will reveal the complex mysteries of this musical pearl. As I read somewhere: "you can't polish a turd." Sorry, but this one isn't going to get any better with time. We ate dinner without music, so my wife was spared. I was going to buy a birthday present for my father tonight. I think I might have the perfect gift already here... John, let me know if your father, his nieghbours or his dog need a present - I have Mirabassi's Avanti! already packed in a pink wrapper. Quote
jon abbey Posted April 4, 2005 Report Posted April 4, 2005 in my ongoing quest to cut my CD collection down from around 6200 discs (currently) to under 5000 (at least), I've started putting up some titles on ebay. first up, I'm going to list a bunch of original series Hat Arts, between 6000-6200. the first five are up now, more will go up when I've got time: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZerstrecs anyway, thought some people here might be interested, the reserve bids on all of these are $20, so they won't go for less than that. Quote
John B Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 (edited) I just saw this on the Tzadik site and thought that it must be some sort of left over April Fool's joke: "Jamie Saft: Astaroth: Book of Angels Vol. 1 Jamie Saft Trio Plays Masada Book Two [#7348] In the final months of 2004, John Zorn wrote over 300 new tunes for his popular Masada project, and he now initiates a new series of recordings featuring the best players out of the burgeoning Masada family in dynamic units performing compositions from Masada Book Two—The Book of Angels. This first volume features Jamie Saft in an acoustic piano trio reminiscent of the best in the genre. Bill Evans, Paul Bley, Herbie Hancock, Vince Guaraldi and even the Bagels and Bongos of Catskills pianist Irving Fields become touchstones for this remarkably interactive group that includes Greg Cohen (Masada, Ornette Coleman) on bass and Ben Perowsky (Uri Caine, John Scofield) on drums. Playing with the fire and passion one has come to expect from the Masada family, this soulful and imaginative trio sets new standards for versatility and excellence in the piano trio format. This group is pure magic and they have created one of the most exciting and enjoyable CDs in the Tzadik catalog. Absolutely breathtaking." I'm still scratching my head over this one. No, not a joke...CDUniverse has this one listed for pre-sale. Time to retire the "Masada" nametag if it is going to be added to every combination of musicians playing any random number of "Masada" tunes. I'm waiting for the Ivo Perelman / Giovanni Mirabassi / Han Bennink "Masada" disc featuring 30,000 new tunes Zorn came up with while on the "throne" one morning. Edited April 5, 2005 by John B Quote
John B Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 I'm just finishing up my first listen to Joe McPhee and Johnny McLellan's Grand Marquis. Very nice. I'm not quite as enthusiastic as David on this disc, but I agree that it is quite good. Thanks again for the recommendation! Quote
Guest Chaney Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 No, not a joke...CDUniverse has this one listed for pre-sale. Time to retire the "Masada" nametag if it is going to be added to every combination of musicians playing any random number of "Masada" tunes. Maybe it should now be referred to as the Masada franchise? Am I wrong in assuming that it's Zorn's popularity in Japan which allows him to apparently comfortably release so much music and help others do same? I'm waiting for the Ivo Perelman / Giovanni Mirabassi / Han Bennink "Masada" disc featuring 30,000 new tunes Zorn came up with while on the "throne" one morning. Too funny! Quote
jon abbey Posted April 5, 2005 Report Posted April 5, 2005 Am I wrong in assuming that it's Zorn's popularity in Japan which allows him to apparently comfortably release so much music and help others do same? no one except his closest confidantes seem to know for sure, but my guess is that it's private Japanese backers, not a big Japanese fan base. Quote
king ubu Posted April 6, 2005 Report Posted April 6, 2005 Just gave this one a listen: (thanks, P.L.M.!) I really liked it! First time I heard it, and it seems rather complex, though also pretty down to earth at spots. Will definitely listen a few more times! Quote
David Ayers Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 in my ongoing quest to cut my CD collection down from around 6200 discs (currently) to under 5000 (at least), I've started putting up some titles on ebay. first up, I'm going to list a bunch of original series Hat Arts, between 6000-6200. the first five are up now, more will go up when I've got time: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZerstrecs anyway, thought some people here might be interested, the reserve bids on all of these are $20, so they won't go for less than that. You go Jon! I'm under 2000 and If anything I'm better off - more manageable and more time spent with recordings I really like. Quote
David Ayers Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) By the way, is anyone up on the Dutch improv scene? I find that a number of CDs are listed at Subterranean in the Netherlands, but I only know many of these artists by name. There is even a little known Roswell Rudd appearance hidden away in there somehwere... Edited April 7, 2005 by David Ayers Quote
John B Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 By the way, is anyone up on the Dutch improv scene? I find that a number of CDs are listed at Subterranean in the Netherlands, but I only know many of these artists by name. I've heard great things about the Bik Bent Braam disc Growing Pains, and the Michael Moore Trio's Jewels and Binoculars but have yet to hear either myself. Out of the discs on that page I have heard March of Dimes by BassDrumBone (Ray Anderson, Mark Helias and Gerry Hemingway) is good, Astronotes by Joost Buis is really good, Guus Janssen's SoundLee! Plays the Music of Lee Konitz is very enjoyable Quote
WD45 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) I pop in on this thread now and again, so I don't know if this has been mentioned before. If you go to the Fennesz website you will find almost an entire performance for download of Fennesz on computer, guitar & piano, BJ Nilsen on computer, and Z'ev on bass drum. It is quite good! Never heard Fennesz on piano before... Edited April 7, 2005 by WD45 Quote
Nate Dorward Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 Anything with Michiel Braam on it is likely to be worth getting. I've seen him in concert & heard Colors & Growing Pains: all excellent. The Data label seems a very interesting one. I have Joost Buis's Astronotes & it was one of the best releases last year. Quote
king ubu Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 I pop in on this thread now and again, so I don't know if this has been mentioned before. If you go to the Fennesz website you will find almost an entire performance for download of Fennesz on computer, guitar & piano, BJ Nilsen on computer, and Z'ev on bass drum. It is quite good! Never heard Fennesz on piano before... listening right now! Quote
John B Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 I've been listening to Julius Hemphill's 'Coon Bid'ness and really loving it. Hemphill with Arthur Blythe, Hamiet Bluiett, Abdul Wadud, Barry Altschul and Daniel Ben Zebulon. Baikida Carroll appears on the last 20 minute track. Do any of you have recommendations for essential recordings of his I should check out? Dogon A.D. was never released on cd, correct? I just placed an order for Screwgun's reissue of Blue Boye, so that will be next, but I am still interested in exploring more of his work. Quote
John B Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 I pop in on this thread now and again, so I don't know if this has been mentioned before. If you go to the Fennesz website you will find almost an entire performance for download of Fennesz on computer, guitar & piano, BJ Nilsen on computer, and Z'ev on bass drum. It is quite good! Never heard Fennesz on piano before... thanks for posting this! I'll give it a listen when I get home from work tonight. Quote
king ubu Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 I have no other Hemphill but 'Coon Bid'ness and I love that one very much, too! Post your recommendations, everybody! ubu Quote
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