Д.Д. Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Not an easy task to pick some recs out of Paul's vast Duns catalogue. To get an overview of Duns CDRs up to no.022, I recommend you to read Steve Lake's essay here. If you like the bagpipes on Hit And Run, I'd go for Bagpipes II, the second (of three) bagpipes solo recordings and the one I like best. Track titles are just as great as the music! The trio with Paul Rogers and Philip Gibbs has quite a lot of CDRs out (partly augmented by a fourth musician), but for me Live At The Quaker Centre and The State Of Moksha Live are among the strongest. If you prefer stuff with drums, you might try Kunikazu (with Keith Tippett), Zooplongoma or Garganchelopes. Those discs feature Peter Fairclough, Tony Marsh and Tony Bianco, respectively, on the drum chair. Wil start working on that Duns catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Wil start working on that Duns catalog. Speaking of Duns, I visited the site and the first sound sample I clicked on was for ronnie trogladyte. Made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 John B: Any familiarity with the Creative Sources Recordings label? Sounds like it might be up your musical alley. Actually, sound pretty good to me! A bit like the EAI thang but without too much of the E. Not at all. Their releases look very interesting, thanks for the link! I'll start going through their sound clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 my comments on the Hemingway/Lehn show on saturday 3/12 posted in live section - but maybe more apt here Thomas Lehn is a fucking lunatic - whatever brought him to a life that includes doing what he does with that crazy monster might make the thoughts in my head seem rather tame. He didn't seem comfotable that everything was right at the beginning as there seemed to be a small unwanted buzz that was eminating from some of the wires that connected his briefcase like thing that I would imagine is hooked up somehow to a couple of other boxes, the analogue syntheziser keyboard thingy and a laptop type thing - a few glowing lights here and there and someelse maybe - and once the thing is turned on or activated somehow, how he controls this monstrosity of wires, tubes and whatever the hell else is there is beyond me - almost like he sets the sound off and has to control it, let it loose, reign it in, and mainipulate it the best f his ability to somehow make music that might seemingly make no sense or more sense than anything that exists in sound - sometimes all at the same time - and whatever happened at the end of the almost closing third piece would have changed a few perspectives of some if they had been sitting in the room last night - then again, nobody hears anything the same with this stuff I call music of almost complete immediate invention - and despite having thought that the *great* Gerry Hemingway had reached a peak with his hand drumming earlier in the piece (after being sure nothing could top whatever the hell he invented on a little steel drum type instrument placed on his snare during the epic like second 20-25 minute second piece, somehow I knew that there would be an explosion of sounds that only Gerry Hemingway is capable of when he decides to go what might be called full bore - well my head almost fucking exploded when the hammer dropped - and for about 6 or 7 minutes, it was better than ejaculating twice lordy lordy only complaint is that the opening improvisation (at 12-14 minutes) didn't really gel, and I thought for sure that Anthony's friend must have certainly thought us insane and after having pizza with us previously) certainly thought me insane as some people have thought that before about me - and I am - but in a good way By the time the hour+ set was done - as they closed with a beautiful short somewhat quiet improv with Hemingway blowing into something or other into his snare drum, the circle was completed - now I wish I could hear it agina, and decide whether to watch and listen or not to watch and listen - instead of sometimes doing both - and I still sometimes find myself wondering what the hell Lehn is doing rather just accepting what he does - he is certainly an incredible musician with a range and creative imagination that makes me think that almost anything is possible in this world what a night - special, special night for me..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Steve, thanks for he show review! I would love to have seen these two together. Hemingway is a monster live and some of my favorite eai discs right now are the ones featuring Lehn. Unfortunately I'd have to drive 3 to 6 hours to have a chance to see a show like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Re: Creative Sources-- http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/348 http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000676.html http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000644.html http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000777.html Shakeup at the bagatellen site in the wake of the Kelsey feature (now binned I note). See the top article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 (edited) Good stuff, Steve. Thanks for posting that! I'm sure you guys realize that you're VERY lucky to be in a position to at least have the option to experience these live shows... and that we hate you for that. Just noticed that Hemingway is coming to Buffalo in April with John Butcher. YUM! Butcher is also meeting up with Gino Robair in DC and MD. To be honest, I wish it were Robair and Butcher visiting Buffalo. >>and I still sometimes find myself wondering what the hell Lehn is doing rather just accepting what he does<< Very good point. It can sometimes be very difficult to simply listen without the perceived need to diagnose each sound. Understanding (and enjoyment?) might come easier if we'd simply allow ourselves to occasionally think less and just experience. (I can't for the life of me figure out WHAT Feel Trio member Tony Oxley is doing to produce the sounds that he does and it drives me batty!) ~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks for those links, Nate. As this'll soon be removed from Bagatellen, I'll save it here: PLEASE NOTE: This post will be permanently removed from the Bagatellen website on Wednesday, March 16th, 2005, 12 PM CST. To the Bagatellen community: With these remarks, I am terminating my association with Bagatellen. In reflecting on the embarrassments of the last two weeks (in Bagatellen time), it is clear to me that Bagatellen needs -- deserves -- stewardship superior to what have been providing and that I, current circumstances prevailing, can provide. I make myself vulnerable to charges of self-indulgence and self-righteousness by saying as much given events recent (as well as not-so recent) here, but, in all sincerity, I believe a writer has to learn to love his or her mistakes. However, an editor, even a "some-time" editor, who lapses in judgment, fails to exercise oversight, and sells civility out in exchange for the prickly pleasure of trading barbs and fleeting glory of delivering harangues as I have is simply not a very good editor. So I feel the most responsible, most just action I can take is to recuse myself. Before I leave, though, I do want to thank all of you who have shared your knowledge, your ideas thoughts, your opinions and even your personal experiences via these pages. You have done a tremendous amount of work here, little of it less than good and the great majority of not just merely informative but "provocative" in the finest sense of the word. I arrived at the Bagatellen site proclaiming that I wanted to contribute to the improvement of our critical discourse. Well, I underestimated the healthiness of that discourse, and you all have done much to show me just how I misinterpreted, and occasionally misattributed, those symptoms I thought I saw. Bagatellen is the vital resource it is because of you. And, no, Bagatellen is not going away. Just me. Thanks, Joe Milazzo Damn shame that Joe Milazzo has stepped down but maybe, in the long run, that'll be a good thing? (I've never had a good grasp on what exactly Joe's role was at Bagatellen; I thought he owned the site. Guess I was wrong.) While the recent controversial pieces certainly drew traffic to the site, the pieces themselves were rather mean-spirited and little else. Joe has apparently volunteered to fall on his own sword. Just spotted this at Bagatellen: PLEASE NOTE: Two articles by Chris Kelsey formerly posted at this site -- New-ness And Jazz-ness; A Coda (Whereupon A Jazz Guy Learns a New Acronym and Makes Some New Enemies) -- have been removed at the author's request. Apologies for any inconvenience. The strangeness continues. Edited March 14, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon abbey Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 The strangeness continues. you're not kidding. if it was anyone else, I'd think that they withdrew those pieces as a kind of impicit apology, but Mr. Kelsey's planning on reposting them on his newly established blog, I assume sans comments. it's a great couple of months for concerts in NY. besides the Hemingway/Lehn Saturday and the Barry Weisblat/Margarida Garcia/Sean Meehan/Tim Barnes show last night (which I liked decidedly more than the Lehn/Hemingway). there's tons more stuff coming up: March 17-Radian at Tonic March 18-20-No Fun Festival, at the Hook in Red Hook, Brooklyn March 21-TV Pow/Boris Hauf at Brooklyn College, CUNY March 24-Yasunao Tone/Hecker at Experimental Intermedia April 1/2-Sachiko/Otomo at Japan Society April 9-John Butcher with Sean Meehan and James Fei in Williamsburg at the Cave April 16-John Butcher/Gerry Hemingway at Location One April 22-Giuseppe Ielasi/Dean Roberts/EKG at Diapason April 26-30-Moving Patterns festival, acfny.org, Fennesz, Thilges3, etc. some may think this is always the case in NYC, but I hadn't been to a show in three months before the Lehn/Hemingway the other night. here's my report on that show, reposted from JC: "a bit surprisingly, I mostly agree with Steve about last night's set, just toned down a few notches of excitement. the technical conditions were awful, I'm sure that space works fine for the acoustic music normally played there, but a mono amp, an inability to get the system grounded (the buzz Steve refers to) and a less-than-ideal speaker system, didn't leave Thomas too much flexibility in terms of the colors he could produce, he really sounded more hampered and hemmed in than I've ever heard him (I must have seen him at least twenty times in the last five years). the first piece didn't really work as Steve said, probably because of this, but they settled in after that. in general, this duo is a bit old school Euro improv for my tastes these days, and I think Hemingway's strength isn't really pure free improv, but the kind of loosely structured compositions he played with his old quintet. but I still enjoyed parts of this a lot, including the fiery thrashout at the end of the third piece that Steve mentions. I thought the quiet coda piece after that was unnecessary and fairly pointless, it really didn't work for me. some of the earlier quiet sections were beautiful, with Gerry's work reminding me of Tim Barnes at times. but all in all, good to see those guys again, on stage and off" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 John B: Any familiarity with the Creative Sources Recordings label? Sounds like it might be up your musical alley. Actually, sound pretty good to me! A bit like the EAI thang but without too much of the E. Not at all. Their releases look very interesting, thanks for the link! I'll start going through their sound clips. Looks like an interesting label. I'll place some orders through jon - but first I'd like to go through all of these Erstwhile discs that I got on recent sale. ---------------------------- Leo Recocds website is updaed with a list of new releases. Anyone heard the first two releases of Braxton Yoshi performances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon abbey Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Looks like an interesting label. I'll place some orders through jon - but first I'd like to go through all of these Erstwhile discs that I got on recent sale. we actually don't stock too many of the Creative Sources titles, they're a little pricy for us and CS is a little pushy about payment and they're not hooked up to PayPal. we do stock the ones we like, though, the ones more towards the electroacoustic side of things, and they do have some potentially interesting things coming up, so we'll probably restock again fairly soon. keep us posted on what you think of those Ersts, pro or con... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 (...) ...and I think Hemingway's strength isn't really pure free improv, but the kind of loosely structured compositions he played with his old quintet. (...) Agree with that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remember that Drimala has the first five Creative Source Recordings CDs on sale for $4.99 each. m u l t i p l e s | cs001 Ernesto Rodrigues: violin, viola, soprano saxophone Guilherme Rodrigues: cello José Oliveira: percussion, acoustic guitar sudden music | cs002 Ernesto Rodrigues: violin, viola António Chaparreiro: electric guitar José Oliveira: percussion, inside piano 23 exposures | cs003 Ernesto Rodrigues: violin, viola Marco Franco: soprano saxophone José Oliveira: percussion, acoustic guitar anamnesis | cs004 Pedro Chambel: guitar ficta | cs005 Ernesto Rodrigues: violin, viola Guilherme Rodrigues: cello, pocket trumpet Gabriel Paiuk: piano José Oliveira: percussion ... unless I just ordered the last copy of each one. Also ordered a few of the Sachimay disks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leo Recocds website is updaed with a list of new releases. Anyone heard the first two releases of Braxton Yoshi performances? Not I. David: If it would help you out, please feel free to order the eight new Leo titles and have them shipped to me. I'll then ship them to you along with the others I have. Anything for a buddy. :rsmile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Sylvia Hallett is an amazing musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Remember that Drimala has the first five Creative Source Recordings CDs on sale for $4.99 each. Darn you Chaney!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Remember that Drimala has the first five Creative Source Recordings CDs on sale for $4.99 each. Darn you Chaney!!!! ................ka-CHING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Another order with themusicresource completed merely 3.5 months after being placed. 4 out of 8 - not too bad. BRIGGAN KRAUSS 300 Compact Discs $11.25 1 Invoiced RICKY FORD BALAENA Compact Discs $12.25 1 Invoiced ALBERT AYLER HILVERSUM SESSION Compact Discs $14.75 1 Invoiced PERCUSSIONSUMMIT PERCUSSION SUMMIT Compact Discs $14.75 1 Invoiced LYONS,JIMMY & CYRILLE,ANDREW BURNT OFFERING Compact Discs $13.75 0 Unavailable JOHNSTON,PHILLIP NORMALOLOGY Compact Discs $12.25 0 Unavailable FORD,RICKY RICKY'S CHOICE Compact Discs $7.95 0 Unavailable KAHIL ELZABAR THE RITUAL Compact Discs $14.75 0 Unavailable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Another order with themusicresource completed merely 3.5 months after being placed. 4 out of 8 - not too bad. You have the patience of a saint. (I wonder in exactly what way saints earned their reputation for being patient. Anyone? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Finally had a first listen to my first Erst, "Time Travel". Like this a lot! Look forward to hearing "What A Wonderful World" soon. Of course I will have to listen to "Time Travel" again and again, as this kind of music I always have to grow to, and explore more and more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic1 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Re: Creative Sources-- http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/348 http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000676.html http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000644.html http://www.bagatellen.com/archives/reviews/000777.html Shakeup at the bagatellen site in the wake of the Kelsey feature (now binned I note). See the top article. Paris Transatlantic also reviews Creative Sources discs including last month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Yes, but it's by Wayne Spencer, who's a self-righteous dipstick, as witness: Guitar-driven popular music has served as one of the principal means by which contemporary capitalism has seduced youthful and other consumers into associating their desires, dreams and rebellions with the narrow and conventional products of the system of commodity replication. As each year passes, the inanities of popular music, hopelessly ensnared in the world of corporate power and the delusions of tawdry stardom, increasingly saturate the soundscapes of the planet, forming an ever-more ubiquitous system of ideas, images, affects and actions for the enchantment of the febrile but conformist products of the hedonistic stage of late capitalism. Along the way, the scant resources of rock and pop’s myopic musical vision, ruthlessly depleted by endless minor variations and pseudo-innovations within the iron cage of its stupefying backbeat, have come to resemble an exhausted prison rock face compulsively quarried by a weary band of drugged convicts half in love with the rattling of their rusted chains. If the electric guitar is to emerge from this state of historical aesthetic crisis and distance itself from its degraded position as dealer for narcotic capitalism, the most radical of action would seem to be required. Incidentally Dan tells me the Fages disc that Spencer's dumping on in the foregoing is quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon abbey Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 wow, I don't think I read that before, Nate, thanks for cutting and pasting, pretty funny. Wayne's no better in person, although he tones the vocabulary down a bit. but he makes up for that with a pretty much constantly smug smile (which seems to be saying "I'm talking to you but I'm not sure why, because not only aren't you very smart but I already know everything you're going to say") that made me want to punch him within minutes of meeting him. and yes, Ferran Fages is one of the more interesting young musicians around, both on his own and as half of Cremaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 If I were a more patient man, I'd attempt to distill the ideas contained in the Spencer material to as few words as possible, or necessary, to convey whateverthehell he's trying to say. Might make for a good class assignment. A minimalist he ain't. Jon: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Chaney--I think "pop music = capitalism = bad" is probably all you need to say. -- Spencer seems to confuse mere snobbishness with cultural critique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon abbey Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 bing bing bing! summed up succintly as always by Mr. Dorward. Jon Morgan informs me that Meniscus isn't quite dead yet, he's still thinking about whether to proceed. if anyone's looking for any Meniscus titles and can't find them, PM me because I'm about to do a trade with him and I'll get whichever you want, which you can then order through ErstDist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I had planned on buying a few Meniscus titles but got sidetracked with buying one or two (or every single one, can't remember ) of the Free America disks and two or three (or 30, again, can't quite remember ) bargain bin offerings from Drimala. Just an FYI: Of the two or three (ok! 30!) that I ordered from Drimala, four were unavailable. I wasn't told which four but, as I've been informed that the bargain bin has now been updated, here's a list of the dearly departed, four of which I may not receive as part of my order: One Day's Music (Zerx) Heyl / Wright / Nelson / Wayne / Faeet Red Sauce Baby (Accretions) Hans Fjellestad and others... Wormhole Effect (Accretions) Fernandes / Hunton / Jacobson / Montoya / Radulovich / Story Vieles Ist Eins (Accretions) Joscha Oetz Sudden Music (Creative Sources) Rodrigues / Chaparreiro / Oliveira Ficta (Creative Sources) Ernesto Rodrigues / Guilherme Rodrigues / Paiuk / Oliveira Figure (Sachimay) Philip Tomasic The Dirigibles Between Similarities (Sachimay) Dan DeChellis / Jeff Arnal Drimala was very nice in breaking the bad news to me and they'll be kicking in two Drimala freebies. Don't know which ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmirBagachelles Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'm thinking I need more fiber between my ears. Any thoughts on Ray Russell from his obscured early 70s work, particularly Live at ICA, 1971? Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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