Steve Reynolds Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I want that 3 CD Monk disc BAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I want that 3 CD Monk disc BAD Cadence, $35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I want that 3 CD Monk disc BAD Cadence, $35. This just went to the top of my birthday wishlist. That looks fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 David, you happen to know where the "Oort-Entropy" recording was made? I have both the concert we saw and the one from Basel, day before or day after somewhere in the pile of yet unedited broadcasts... Had a listen to this little Leo thingie: Keshavan Maslak Loved by Millions It's a trio recording with John Lindberg (b) and Sunny Murray (d). Maslak is a muscular tenor player with a full-bodied sound (guess Hawkins was influenced by him ), and he also appears on flute (whimsical) and bass clarinet. Murray is playing strong and heavy, yet usually quite straight. A nice & refreshingly short (47 minutes of something) trio recording. Btw, I went back to that mean mean Leo sale and picked up some more discs, among them the two other Collective 4tets, one more Remote Viewers, Jon Lloyd's "Head", Gies' solo sax disc, Not Missing Drums' Nietzsche project, Giancarlo Nicolai Trio with John Tchicai. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 David, you happen to know where the "Oort-Entropy" recording was made? I have both the concert we saw and the one from Basel, day before or day after somewhere in the pile of yet unedited broadcasts... From what I understand, this is a studio recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Had a listen to this little Leo thingie: Keshavan Maslak Loved by Millions A nice & refreshingly short (47 minutes of something) trio recording. Maslak normally plays alto, and while somewhat limited stylistically, he is terrific at what he is doing (i.e. blowing alto to pieces). I think this is his first record, and the only one where he sticks to tenor. As I mentioned, of what I heard I like the most Mother Russia (Leo) - duets with various Soviet musicians: However, Humanplexity with Misha Mengelberg and Han Bennink is a good one as well. Now, this one is not that easy to find - it was once issued on Leo (under the name of Kenny Millions), then went OOP and reissued by Maslak himself (as a CD-R with an ugly cover) on his own Hum Ha label (aparently with a lot of mutual acrimony with Leo Feigin). The only two sources I know that might carry it are Jazz Loft and well, themusicresource.com. --------------------------------------------------------- Talking about themusicresource.com, they managed to beat their own record recently - out of 5 CDs I ordered all 5 turned out to be unavailable (after 6 weeks of labored search)! What did I order, you ask? PRIMATERIA ALBERT AYLER'S BELLS Compact Discs $11.25 0 Unavailable BHOB RAINEY WITHERED GRASSES Compact Discs $11.25 0 Unavailable HADEN,CHARLIE MONTREAL TAPES-VOL.1 Compact Discs $13.75 0 Unavailable CYRILLE,ANDREW & LYONS,JIMMY NUBA Compact Discs $13.75 0 Unavailable TED CURSON CATTIN' Compact Discs $12.75 0 Unavailable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Congratulations, David, on your impressive lack of success when ordering from The Music Resource. 0 for 5 is sure to be the stat to beat for the forseeable future. (My history: 4 for 7; 0 for 1; 6 for 6!; 1 for 4; 0 for 1.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's 7:59 a.m. and there are squealing female voices outside my office door. Maybe a little John Butcher / Gino Robair: New Oakland Burr will clear the area. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Spotted at SQUIDCO: Gebbia, Gianni & Yoshimitsu, Ichiraku: Obsessiion'No.3 (Label: Psycho) Gianni Gebbia-alto sax / Ichiraku Yoshimitsu-drums/electronics Live recordings of this improvising duo, recorded in Japan. CDR in a DVD Snap case, limited edition of 300. Label: Psycho - Psycho-0106 Format: CDR Condition: New Released: 2000 Country: Japan Q: Anyone familiar with this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Gebbia, Gianni & Yoshimitsu, Ichiraku: Obsessiion'No.3 (Label: Psycho) Gianni Gebbia-alto sax / Ichiraku Yoshimitsu-drums/electronics Q: Anyone familiar with this one? No idea, but we can write to Gebbia and ask him if this is DA SHIT or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I want that 3 CD Monk disc BAD Cadence, $35. Squidco $35 w/ no charge for shipping in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 NOW you tell me! Just received my order from Cadence. Got Monk's Casino, bunch 'o Sketch titles, the Ayler Hilversum and the Graewe Concert San Francisco 1995. As usual, rubbing virtual shoulders with you guys is costing me a fortune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 NOW you tell me! Just received my order from Cadence. Got Monk's Casino, bunch 'o Sketch titles, the Ayler Hilversum and the Graewe Concert San Francisco 1995. Good haul. Let us know about the Monk's Casino. I belatedly post my concert impressions. To begin with, Schlippenbach is the man. Inventive, powerful and suprisingly lyrical playing. Unfortunately, he didn't play that much and took probably 2 relatively long (2-3 minutes) solos throughout the whole set. In general, nobody played really long solos. However, Mahall's solos, regardless of actuall length always seemed too long to me - a fairly superficial player, with limited bag of tricks and quite an ugly bass clarinet sound (all in piercing cold middle-to-up register, with lower register nearly completely lacking). Dörner, on the other hand was excellent (reminded my of Ted Curson a bit, of all musicians). Bass-drums were competent but not more. Arrangements were very interesting and diverse - from very straight readings of the themes (without solos), to humorous brass/winds trios (Schlippenbach played some shaky trumpet as well), to some quite radical re-interpretations (e.g. two themes played at the same time in different rhythms and tempos). There was also quite a bit of show driven by Mahall and Dörner mostly, including all musicians (except dignified Shlippenbach) playing while lying on a floor, the drummer beating straight tempo to "We See" by throwing and catching HUGE red rubber to and from the floor (with very serious and concentrated German expression on the face), while Dörner and Mahall would chase him all over the club in order to knock the ball out with their feet (all while playing), so that the drummer would have to run and pick up the rolling ball as fast as possible to get back too his rhythm routine. Also there was an interesting part where Dörner would turn the light on and off, and the rhythm section would have to stop when he would (unpredicatlbly) turn the light on (and start again where they left off as soon as the light woudl go off) - and the level of coordination the band showed was very impressive. Fun. Going back to music - to summarize, arrangements were excellent, Schlippenbach and Dörner inspiring, Mahall a definite minus and rhythm section merely lukewarm. Would be intersted to hear whether this is the same way on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Chaney, I'm definitely interested in reading your thoughts on the discs you picked up. I have only heard the Ayler disc, and it is fantastic. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 (edited) Interesting comments on the Monk's Casino show, David. I look forward to comparing notes. Actually, I walked into my apartment and almost immediately put CD1 of this set into my changer, it began be play, I noted what appeared to be excellent sound, made my way to the refrigerator, opened the door, noted that the 'fridge was very quiet and its (inside) light was out, PANICKED that I has just spent $200 on music and NOW I'll need a new refrigerator, ran to my CD player, hit off, ran back to my refrigerator, opened the door again and within five seconds, the light mysteriously turned on! Turns out the bulb had worked itself loose. Fascinating? I just mention this as Monk's Casino lost its turn and I'm now listening to the Art Pepper Select set. Oh yea, got these Sketch titles: Edited February 16, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 By the way, that concert sounds like it was a silly, fun time. Don't those musicians know that fun is not allowed? This is serious business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Turns out the bulb had worked itself loose. Fascinating? Yes, I do very much think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Interesting comments on the Monk's Casino show, David. I look forward to comparing notes. Actually, I walked into my apartment and almost immediately put CD1 of this set into my changer, it bagan be play, I noted what appeared to be excellent sound, made my way to the refrigerator, opened the door, noted that the 'fridge was very quiet and its (inside) light was out, PANICKED that I has just spent $200 on music and NOW I'll need a new refrigerator, ran to my CD player, hit off, ran back to my refrigerator, opened the door again and within five seconds, the light mysteriously turned on! Turns out the bulb had worked itself loose. Fascinating? I just mention this as Monk's Casino lost its turn and I'm now listening to the Art Pepper Select set. Oh yea, got these Sketch titles Well, when you get to the disc 2 of the set any large red rubber object will start spontaneously falling out of your hands. From what I understood, the best way to cope with this is to keep serious face expression. -------------------- This Farao-Humair-Aveneal trio is bullshit, frankly. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop - all thanks to Farao; and there's nothing much Humair and Avenel can help the music with. On the other hand, you like Rubalcaba ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Turns out the bulb had worked itself loose. Fascinating? Yes, I do very much think so. Is it okay if I sell the script to the highest hollywood bidder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Btw, there is another CD of Schlippenbach playing Monk: Alexander von Schlippenbach, p Ino Nobuyoshi, b Sunny Murray, dr Enja Horst Weber, 1997 Not sure about the avialability. ------------------------------------------------------ For perpetually lucky Swiss people: Monk's Casino can be obtained from amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007OQC9W/qid%3D1108512556/028-4117530-6350966 ) for €33 (including shipping). Not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Turns out the bulb had worked itself loose. Fascinating? Yes, I do very much think so. Is it okay if I sell the script to the highest hollywood bidder? I sense that I'm being mocked. Keep it up and I'll share other tales of my daily adventures. I'LL TURN THIS THREAD INTO MY VERY OWN BLOG! Preview: This morning I had to grind coffee beans QUICKLY or I'd miss my bus! Made it with seconds to spare! :ring ring: Yes? Mr. Spielberg? Yes, I'll take his call. And now, I'm off to listen to CD1 of Monk's Casino. ~~~~~~~~~~ But first... This Farao-Humair-Aveneal trio is bullshit, frankly. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop - all thanks to Farao; and there's nothing much Humair and Avenel can help the music with. On the other hand, you like Rubalcaba ... ... I'll listen to Borderlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 But first... This Farao-Humair-Aveneal trio is bullshit, frankly. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop - all thanks to Farao; and there's nothing much Humair and Avenel can help the music with. On the other hand, you like Rubalcaba ... ... I'll listen to Borderlines. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Listening now, David, and on track four. Liked track three. I hear what you mean. I might describe Farao's playing as unspectacular. Doesn't seem to have many ideas coming from his left hand. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop. Can't quite agree. Pretty sterile, yes, but overdone? Hardbop? Has kind of a New York City vibe to it, or at least a big city sound. Tunes aren't too bad; all pretty upbeat and frenetic, thus far, which can get dull. Still listening... Am I nuts or am I hearing a little of Andrew Hill in his playing? Maybe during the moodier pieces? Edited February 16, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) This morning I had to grind coffee beans QUICKLY or I'd miss my bus! Tony, bus?! - Why bus??? Thanks for the recommendations but I'm not buying music at the moment as I recently made a rather large purchase... B) Edited February 16, 2005 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 You have an amazing memory! EEEEK! Is that a 2005 Camry? If yes, glad I got a 2004 when I did. The bus is cheaper. Less money spent on transportation means more money available for music. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Still listening. Not sounding too bad; kinda growing on me. Not very adventurous stuff but I don't suppose it's meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Listening now, David, and on track four. Liked track three. I hear what you mean. I might describe Farao's playing as unspectacular. Doesn't seem to have many ideas coming from his left hand. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop. Can't quite agree. Pretty sterile, yes, but overdone? Hardbop? Has kind of a New York City vibe to it, or at least a big city sound. Tunes aren't too bad; all pretty upbeat and frenetic, thus far, which can get dull. Still listening... Am I nuts or am I hearing a little of Andrew Hill in his playing? Maybe during the moodier pieces? Unspectacular is the right word. But I feel that there are just way too many notes played - every second one could be safely skipped. Every first one also, actually - I'd prefer to hear Avenel/Humair duo. As for "hardbop" - sure, you know my classification challenges. Everything that's traditional and boring I tend to (unjustly) call "hardbop". "Mainsteam" would probably be the right word. It's not that bad, actually. But pretty bad, nonetheless. I don't think neither Avenel nor Humair particularly shine in this setting. In general, Sketch was not exactly the most adventurous label. The most "out" disc they released would probably be Mal Waldron's One More Time - with Aveneal (in his element there) and (on a couple of tracks) Lacy(now this disc is essential). Don't hear Hill's influence in Farao's playing. But do hear Corea, Tyner and Jarret. Edited February 16, 2005 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Listening now, David, and on track four. Liked track three. I hear what you mean. I might describe Farao's playing as unspectacular. Doesn't seem to have many ideas coming from his left hand. Muscular, overdone, sterile hardbop. Can't quite agree. Pretty sterile, yes, but overdone? Hardbop? Has kind of a New York City vibe to it, or at least a big city sound. Tunes aren't too bad; all pretty upbeat and frenetic, thus far, which can get dull. Still listening... Am I nuts or am I hearing a little of Andrew Hill in his playing? Maybe during the moodier pieces? Unspectacular is the right word. But I fell that there are way to many notes played - every second one could be safely skipped. Every first one also, actually - I'd prefer to hear Avenel/Humair duo. Farao plays too many notes? Hard to say. Less busy would certainly work for me, though. I thought the same thing on preferring an Avenel / Humair duo! As for "hardbop" - sure, you know my classification challenges. Everything that's traditional and boring I tend to (unjustly) call "hardbop". "Mainsteam" would probably be the right word. It's not that bad, actually. But pretty bad, nonetheless. I don't think neither Avenel nor Humair particularly shine in this setting. I'm not familiar with Avenel nor Humair so I can't comment on their shining or not but they do lend terrific support, I feel. I'd be curious to here Farao with lesser players. (Wouldn't be curious enought to buy it!) In general, Sketch was not exactly the most adventurous label. the most "out" disc they released woulod probably be Mal Waldron's One More Time (now this one is essential!). Don't hear Hill's influence. But do hear Corea, Tyner and Jarret. That's what worried me a bit about shelling out so much money for so many Sketch titles. (I ordered a bunch more from Indie Jazz, including the Waldron and the one that has Eskelin.) The mainstream doesn't quite hold my attention as it once did. Good ear on the influences you've noted -- especially the Corea. ON THE EDIT: Good length on this CD. 48 minutes. Any longer and it'd really wear out its welcome; just enought though to leave me hungry for another listen... some other day. Edited February 16, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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