Guest Chaney Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Eh... Tony, I think you screwed up the board a bit. Can you post the picures vertically probably? I am planning to buy THE COMPLETE (all 6 titles!!!) True Muze catalog soon. Your wish is my command. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Eh... Tony, I think you screwed up the board a bit. Can you post the picures vertically probably? I am planning to buy THE COMPLETE (all 6 titles!!!) True Muze catalog soon. Your wish is my command. B) Thanks TOny. You also will get a Cannibal Corpse for When You're Alone compilation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I'm thinking I need to own some Evan Parker soon, too. Any recommendations for where to start? I'm thinking about going with some of his solo work...either the Snake Decides or Lines Burnt in Light. I'm hearing a lot of good things about his new(ish) disc Alder Brook, too.Hm......I think that Alder Brook is rather pretty but hardly a good place to start with Evan Parker. The one person I've talked to who seems enthusiastic about it is Walter Horn, but I'm not sure why really. Lines Burnt on Light is easily the dullest solo disc I know of: it probably will sound just fine if you haven't heard any of the earlier ones but I would nonetheless not go for it first. I'm told The Snake Decides is excellent, as well as Six of One both now reissued on Psi. I have Monoceros which is superb but may be scarce as I think the CD reissue recently went out of print, though Cadence/North Country & I think DMG still carry it. For Parker with groups, I'd suggest heading straight to the 2CD 50th Birthday Concert on Leo, which is a remarkable document. Imaginary Values on Maya is another good one by the Parker/Guy/Lytton trio (in fact everything by the trio is worth hearing, except the drab Redwood Sessions). I'm not enormously well-versed in the 1970s & 1980s Parker oeuvre, but I'm sure people can say more here. On the whole just about anything Parker's done up to about 1997 is worth hearing. Recent years have found him rather stuck on his lofty plateau, though there are notable exceptions like the duos with Joe McPhee (for those who like their music REEEAL dour & sombre, but it's great stuff I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 & also re: Alex Ward--haven't heard False Face Society but he's indeed a good guitarist--funnily enough that's his 2nd instrument, he's better known as a clarinetist. But there's a nice two-guitar duet on 2:13 worth checking out, Crypt, with John Bisset. It's acoustic duets, quite charming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Thanks TOny. You also will get a Cannibal Corpse for When You're Alone compilation. Ummm... thanks? I hope it doesn't sound ghoulish ( ) but I thught it might be a good idea to move quickly on the True Muze titles as label co-founder Peter Niklas Wilson has recently passed away. I wondered if his untimely passing might upset the label's business plan - to be brutally honest (and mercenary). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Thanks Nate for that valuable information re Parker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I think I have only heard Riley's In C. I also have a cd by Acid Mother's Temple (Japanese psychedelic band) performing a crazy version of In C. I've been meaning to explore more of his work but really haven't had time to get around to it yet. I have heard around 5 different versions of In C. My favourite would have to be the In C you mentioned, by the wonderful Japanese band Acid Mothers Temple. The original version features Steve Reich in the ensemble. oh yeah and for LaMonte Young, the Well-Tuned Piano is a pretty good album. It is rather long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 compared to some things I listen to, Heavy Metal is easy listening. I don't really listen to heavy metal at all, however I do listen to lots of modern 'noise' music, which is often more challanging than anything in the heavy metal catagory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 (edited) I'm thinking I need to own some Evan Parker soon, too. Any recommendations for where to start? I'm thinking about going with some of his solo work...either the Snake Decides or Lines Burnt in Light. I'm hearing a lot of good things about his new(ish) disc Alder Brook, too. I am not at all a Parker spacialist (I probably have no more than 15 CDs with him - mostly from '90s). I do have Alder Brook (Leo) and it is good, but calling it a Parker masterpiece would be probably a bit of overstatement. I spent 20 minutes looking for all Parker I have and managed to find 50th Birthday Concert(Leo) Braxton-Parker-Rutherford "Trio (London) 1993" (still sealed! - shame on me!) (Leo) Synergetics - Phonomanie III (Leo) After Appleby (Leo) Ghost-in-the-Machine feat. Evan Parker (Leo) Mauro Orselli - Evan Parker - Antonello Salis - "True Live Walnuts" (Splasc(H)) Live at "Les Instants Chavires" (Leo) Since I don't remember most of them (shame on me again), I will listen to them over the weekend and edit this post with my (invaluable) opinion. What I remember is that After Appleby is very very good, True Live Walnuts is a not bad but a bit overplayed (but a very nice 2-minute version of 'Naima' somewhere in the middle), and Les Instants Chavires has too much of the famous never-ending-always-the-same soprano solo (although brutally processsed electronically). Meanwhile, this search for Evan Parkers CDs through my 10+ boxes of CDs proved to be pathetic not only because I couldn't remember most of the Parker's CDs I've heard, but also because I stumbled upon DOZENS of unsealed CDs. Thus, I would like to proclaim (in front of my comrades, as they would say in the USSR which I still remember) that I am freezing all my further CD purchases until I listen to all the new CDs in my collection. This will take at least 3-4 months, according to my estimates. In this period I will buy ONLY: a. fucking hatOLOGY CDs that are about to go OOP b. any other fucking little label releases that are about to go OOP c. complete TRUE MUZE catalog, since I already decided (good logics) d. some unbelivably good once-in-a-lifetime deals (like Leo Lub stuff from Berkshire for $3) This is all a bit of cheating of course, since I am subscribed to INTAKT and FMP, so I will automatically get all new releases from them - but this is not too much. Edited December 20, 2003 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 I'm thinking I need to own some Evan Parker soon, too. Any recommendations for where to start? I'm thinking about going with some of his solo work...either the Snake Decides or Lines Burnt in Light. I'm hearing a lot of good things about his new(ish) disc Alder Brook, too.Hm......I think that Alder Brook is rather pretty but hardly a good place to start with Evan Parker. The one person I've talked to who seems enthusiastic about it is Walter Horn, but I'm not sure why really. Lines Burnt on Light is easily the dullest solo disc I know of: it probably will sound just fine if you haven't heard any of the earlier ones but I would nonetheless not go for it first. I'm told The Snake Decides is excellent, as well as Six of One both now reissued on Psi. I have Monoceros which is superb but may be scarce as I think the CD reissue recently went out of print, though Cadence/North Country & I think DMG still carry it. For Parker with groups, I'd suggest heading straight to the 2CD 50th Birthday Concert on Leo, which is a remarkable document. Imaginary Values on Maya is another good one by the Parker/Guy/Lytton trio (in fact everything by the trio is worth hearing, except the drab Redwood Sessions). I'm not enormously well-versed in the 1970s & 1980s Parker oeuvre, but I'm sure people can say more here. On the whole just about anything Parker's done up to about 1997 is worth hearing. Recent years have found him rather stuck on his lofty plateau, though there are notable exceptions like the duos with Joe McPhee (for those who like their music REEEAL dour & sombre, but it's great stuff I think). Nate - I think it was Walt's review that got me thinking about Alder Brook. Thank you for the recommendations! I will probably start with Snake and Monoceros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Synergetics - Phonomanie III (Leo)Oh yeah, avoid this one like the plague. I'm exaggerating somewhat--it's got some nice George Lewis on it--but it's also got a lot of longueurs, & it's a 2CD set so it's pricey. The recorded sound is a real problem, not least because it was so poorly done that they had to remove most of the tracks with electronics because some of the high frequencies caused distortion. So though there are two guys using electronics on the album, they're virtually invisible because only tracks where they played a minor role are included. It also includes some fairly tedious stuff for launeddas (a type of bagpipe)--the first 8 minutes or so or the album are taken up with its tootling--& in general Evan Parker himself has a very minor role on the album, playing for no more than about 20-30 minutes between the two CDs. The Cook/Morton guide is quite enthusiastic about the Parker/Guy/Lytton trio's first disc Atlanta. I've always had less warm feelings about this, in part because the recording is not terribly good, but it does include one of my favourite examples of Parker's solo soprano work from the mid-1980s, "The Snake as Roadsign". It's in part a useful track to have because it's in a drier acoustic than Parker usually favours for solo concerts, so it sounds very different from say Conic Sections or Monoceros or Lines Burnt on Light. I think the duet encounter with Braxton on Leo is pretty extraordinary. As with the encounter with McPhee, it's not the place to hear Parkerian fireworks--it's cooled-out & there's no circular breathing showcases--but if you're a fan of Konitz/Marsh duelling lines, it's great stuff. Not the world's best recording quality, again, but it's quite acceptable. I haven't heard the trio disc with Rutherford but it can't be too shabby surely. I'm told that all the Psi reissues from the 1970s with Lytton & Lewis are remarkable stuff, by the way. Lastly, I'm rather fond of Parker's work on the first of the two discs with Paul Bley & Barre Phillips on ECM, Time Will Tell, which is pretty untypical of his work (being, well, ECMish). The echo is appalling--it's excessive even by ECM's standards--but it's interesting music, in part because Bley & Parker are so obviously testing each other out, & neither of them on home territory. The sequel Sankt Gerold I found pretty but very frigid, & it falls foul of one of the mannerisms of a lot of later Parker discs--too much space given to spotlit solo excursions, where the players do little more than play their default solo-piece. It's After Appleby. I haven't heard it; I have the previous quartet disc Natives & Aliens, which is good but somehow I've never warmed to it quite. It's the EP/BG/PLyt trio plus Marilyn Crispell. The duo album with Eddie Prevost is worth hearing, by the way, if repetitive (should have been a single disc not a 2CD set). Most Materiall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 The steamboats are on their way. I hope at least our dear russian friend receives his in time for x-mas, maybe the europeans, too, but I guess John B, Geoff and Chaney will have to be patient... Got the steam from ubu. Thanks a lot. Will listen today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Д.Д., you have this one? (since you did subscribe) I found it used (but new, maybe from some reviewer who didn't like it) for some 6 CHF (which, mind me, is a FUCKING good prize for an Intakt release, no?), and I really like it! That track with Farfisa is cool, and the balance they find between free improvisation and (at times rather smooth) grooves is very cool with me! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 The steamboats are on their way. I hope at least our dear russian friend receives his in time for x-mas, maybe the europeans, too, but I guess John B, Geoff and Chaney will have to be patient... Got the steam from ubu. Thanks a lot. Will listen today. cool! that was almost fast for x-mas time and generally rather slow postal services... Please tell me how you like the Ortega, too! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Д.Д., you have this one? (since you did subscribe) I found it used (but new, maybe from some reviewer who didn't like it) for some 6 CHF (which, mind me, is a FUCKING good prize for an Intakt release, no?), and I really like it! That track with Farfisa is cool, and the balance they find between free improvisation and (at times rather smooth) grooves is very cool with me! ubu king ubu, I don't have it. I actually have very few Itakt releases yet - Cecil's "Willisau", which is my favorite Cecil, and Bauer brothers duo trombone record, which is pretty amazing (and quite scary to listen to). I think that's it so far. As I mentioned, I will be focusing on OOP stuff in the next several months - probably on Knitting Factory releases, since the label seems to be defunct now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 how come you think Knitting Factory is out of order? Their website does not look like that! They state that their store is under repair, nothing more. I only have that Charles Gayle 2CD set I mentioned here some days ago, and from Knit Classics I have the Dizzy for President disc (not that good, but I could pick it up very cheap, too), and the great Wildflowers 3CD set. Any essential records from either KF or Knit Classics? ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 How about all those Rashied Ali discs? http://www.knittingfactory.com/labels/biop...bCat_Selected=1 ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 (edited) Any essential records from either KF or Knit Classics? I love the Thomas Chapin "Alive" 8 CD set, first class stuff and not that expensive either edited to correct Cd numbers. Edited December 22, 2003 by Clunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 how come you think Knitting Factory is out of order? Any essential records from either KF or Knit Classics? I heard it from several sources - one of them being Downtown Music Gallery, a NYC CD store, and another I forgot. Of these KFW Rashied Ali CDs I have duos with Frank Low and Leroy jenkins, and they are essential IMO. I also have this do with Belongesis, but i don't remember it. I will look through my collection, and pick up some Kintting Factory recommendations - they have a lot of great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 yeah, please do! The site does look interesting - however it does not offer a complete view of the catalogue, which is rather a pain... Actually I should stop buying CD just as you posted recently. Too much unheard stuff lying around, and being short of money all the time also starts getting on my nerves. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 that Chapin set sounds great! I never heard him, but as I like having a head start with interesting music/musicians, I shall consider this one! any comments about Chapin? ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 (edited) that Chapin set sounds great! I never heard him, but as I like having a head start with interesting music/musicians, I shall consider this one! any comments about Chapin? ubu The Chapin set is essential. Fantastic, fantastic music. The set is very reasonably priced, so I would not hesitate to pick up a copy asap. I just checked and Verge has the Chapin set (which is 8 discs) for just over $52 US. The Knitting Factory store has been "under repair" for a very long time now. Don't hold your breath waiting for it come back. Looking forward to the Steamboat! Edited December 22, 2003 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Thanks, John - sounds even better now! German amazon has it for 62 euros, shipping to switzerland they will deduct vat, which would make it maybe 55 euros, then add some 10 to 15 euros for customs again... if not for that last part, I'd consider this a very good prize! Hey, in our older tradition of recommending record labels: I got this from the Vijay Ayer thread in the Artists section, and I do think it does look interesting: http://www.482music.com/ Anybody knows some of their releases? ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 and another one, taken from the links page from the last: http://www.meniscusrecords.com/ never heard of them, but that Gratkowski/Graewe/Lovens disc and some others as well sound interesting! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 and another one, more Graewe, Gratkowski, Butcher, Van Hove, Oxley... http://www.nuscoperec.com/homepage.htm ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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