John B Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Cripes! Just a few hours spent away from this place and joyous frivolity abounds! -- all led by that troublemaking Russian kid -- he with more hair on his head that any man really needs! Old news: Jemeel Moondoc vtet: Revolt of the Negro Lawn Jockeys Would it be wrong of me to suggest that there shouldn't be a person on this board who would not thoroughly enjoy this one? Plenty of in-the-pocket playing (thanks John) and tunes not so far out that even the stiffest poster (hmmm..., whom might that be) couldn't whine. No, that would not be wrong at all! I'm glad you enjoyed this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Aebi is overdubbed on at least one other recent Lacy disc, The Holy La. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Aebi is overdubbed on at least one other recent Lacy disc, The Holy La. They could do special limited editions: "funny rat edition: no aebi overdubs"... ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Aebi is overdubbed on at least one other recent Lacy disc, The Holy La. They could do special limited editions: "funny rat edition: no aebi overdubs"... ubu That would be the karaoke version, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Aebi is overdubbed on at least one other recent Lacy disc, The Holy La. They could do special limited editions: "funny rat edition: no aebi overdubs"... ubu That would be the karaoke version, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Did a search for Solal at amazon.fr - rather large discogrpaphy. And look what the European BN guys came up with: NY1 is a great CD . The performances of the three players could easily be enjoyed on their own throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Is anyone here a fan of Time Berne? I have never been very impressed by his technical skill, but I have enjoyed each album of his that I have heard. Right now I am listening to Poisoned Minds: The Paris Concert, by his band Bloodcount. This disc was recorded live in 1994 and, on this recording, Bloodcount is Berne, Chris Speed on tenor and clarinet, Michael Formanek on contrabass, Jim Black on drums and Marc Ducret on electric guitar. I'm not crazy about Ducret's playing here, but the rest of the band is on fire! Overall I still prefer the Unwound box set of live Bloodcount recordings, even though the fidelity is not as good. As far as I recall Ducret is not on that set, which might be what makes the difference for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 John, I have only two Berne discs so far: "Science Friction", and "Open, Coma" (picked that up twice on sale last week, and D.D. just got the other). I like them both, but then I think Ducret is one of the best guitar players around. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Is anyone here a fan of Time Berne? I have never been very impressed by his technical skill, but I have enjoyed each album of his that I have heard. Right now I am listening to Poisoned Minds: The Paris Concert, by his band Bloodcount. This disc was recorded live in 1994 and, on this recording, Bloodcount is Berne, Chris Speed on tenor and clarinet, Michael Formanek on contrabass, Jim Black on drums and Marc Ducret on electric guitar. I'm not crazy about Ducret's playing here, but the rest of the band is on fire! Overall I still prefer the Unwound box set of live Bloodcount recordings, even though the fidelity is not as good. As far as I recall Ducret is not on that set, which might be what makes the difference for me. I believe I got the Unwound Box Set for $10 (AUS, so that is like 5 Euros/3 Pounds/$4 US). I found it in a discount bin. It is alright, it isn't bad but it isn't something I listen to that frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 The only Berne I own is The Shell Game. Not crazy about it as I tend to sit there waiting for Berne to stop playing it safe. (He seems to find his sonic comfort spot and doesn't stray very far in any direction.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I have Berne's CD called "Ornery People" - it's a duo with Michael Formanek (bass), and I find it absolutely outstanding. I also have some larger band projects (on JMT) and they seemed very dry dense and soulless to me. Now this ubu guy sent me some more of Berne - I'll listen and will report here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 John, I have only two Berne discs so far: "Science Friction", and "Open, Coma" (picked that up twice on sale last week, and D.D. just got the other). I like them both, but then I think Ducret is one of the best guitar players around. ubu I don't have a problem with Ducret's playing, in and of itself, I just don't think it fits very well in context of the Bloodcount tunes. I have yet to hear the Shell Game, but I wouldn't describe any of Berne's playing as "safe" on this disc or on the Unwound box, so these might be more to your liking. Poisoned Minds is on JMT and therefore OOP for the time being, but the Unwound box is available very inexpensively directly through Screwgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 (edited) I have yet to hear the Shell Game For those interested: I'm selling my copy of The Shell Game for $12, including standard mail shipping (priority mail is $2 extra) - sale thread. Edited August 20, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Coincidently tonights BBC Jazz on 3 is - Jazz on 3 Tim Berne Special Tonight Jazz on 3 continues its summer season giving listeners another chance to hear the most popular gigs broadcast over the last year. The programme has been asking people to call and write in with their suggestions, and it is an indication of the programme's wide appeal that the two equal top choices were Swedish pop-jazz sensation EST and British godfather of avant-garde saxophone, Evan Parker. This week Jez Nelson introduces a very special concert by cult US saxophonist Tim Berne with his Science Friction Band and special guests David Torn and The Arte [saxophone] Quartett. Berne is one of the most influential composers and band leaders on the New York downtown scene; for the past 20 years he has been a seminal figure in jazz and contemporary music. The concert was recorded at the Queen Elizabeth Hall on London's South Bank during the 2003 London Jazz Festival, and the performance includes a brand new work commissioned by BBC Radio 3 for Jazz on 3. Duration: 1 hour 30 minutes Playlist Jazz on 3 Signature Tune Artist Russell Gunn Title 74 Miles Away Intro Label Atlantic Cat No. 7567-83165-2 LP Title Ethnomusicology Volume 1 Tim Berne Special recorded at the London Jazz Festival 2003 including the first performance of a new work commissioned by Jazz On 3 Tim Berne Science Friction Quartet with special guests David Torn and the Arte Saxophone Quartet Tim Berne - alto sax Tom Rainey - drums Craig Taborn - keyboard Marc Ducret - guitar David Torn - guitar, samplers, and electronics Arte Saxophone Quartet Jazz on Three Commission Title Untitled (Still) Composer Tim Berne Arte Saxophone Quartet Beat Kappeler - baritone saxophones Beat Hofstetter - alto saxophones Andrea Forment - tenor and alto saxophones Sascha Armbruster - alto soprano and baritone saxophones Title Repulsion Composer Arte Saxophone Quartet Tim Berne Science Friction Quartet with special guest David Torn Title Vangundy's Retreat Composer Tim Berne Title Shell Game Composer Tim Berne Title Traction Composer Tim Berne Title Mrs Subliminal Composer Tim Berne Title Heavy Mental Composer Tim Berne http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazzon3/pip/277gp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Sounds interesting, Gary! These Arte Sax Quartet guys are pretty much all over the place, it seems! Don't know much more about them except they're swiss, and good. And on records by several younger swiss jazz musicians (Hans Feigenwinter, Kaspar Ewald), as well as collaborating with people like Terry Riley. ********** Listening now to No Try No Fall by Leimgruber, Léandre, and Hauser. Like it a lot! First time I really listen to it. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 New release by great Jean-Jacques Avenel on Songlines (SACD hybrid!): http://www.songlines.com/warabacontent.html Looks like this is some African folk music-influenced thing. I'll get it! Are there any other releases under Avenel's name, btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 (edited) Hey Tony - We've added three new Evander titles: Gebbia, Goodheart & Powell - "Zen Widow" Shaun Naidoo - "Smoke and Mirrors" Philip Greenlief - "Stalking Andrei" You can check out all three by following this link, which will show you all the Evander Music titles. LINK Thanks much for the request. We appreciate the participation. Regards, Tyler S. General Manager Cryptogramophone / IndieJazz.com Two more recommended Evander titles: Todd Sickafoose Group: Dogs Outside You can download track one on the IndieJazz site. (NOTE to non-Funny Rats: Have a listen to this track. I think you'll like what you hear.) An accurate appraisal: "...These works run the gamut from being loosely based motifs that traverse circuitous paths in concert with brooding interplay marked by soaring choruses and a commanding group sound. No doubt, Dogs Outside comes as a welcome surprise. * * * * (4 out of 5 stars)." - AllAboutJazz.com Duo Phillip Greenlief (saxophones, flutes) & Trevor Dunn (bass) This one's not available from IndieJazz but is well worth searching out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sonoloco Record Reviews Edited August 21, 2004 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Some Sunday listening: Like it pretty well. Don't know much of Murray's output (and, frankly, don't feel a need to really start explore his oeuvre), but this one's quite good. Johnny Dyani is on bass, and Butch Morris on trumpet (or is it a cornet? or a pocket trumpet? guess a cornet). Then another Marge disc, Roy Burrowes "Live at the Dreher" feat. Mal Waldron. Richard Raux is very good on tenor, drummer George Brown is also the drummer on the Murray disc. Right now: broadcast of Charles Lloyd's quartet, just began on France Musiques. With Geri Allen, Eric Harland, and Reuben Rogers. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Garcia / Gebbia / Wogram: pronto! (Intakt CD 076) Well, I've listened to this one twice and, sad to say, I'm just not liking it. I don't like the sampling very much (an understatement), Gebbia plays ugly and the trombone of Wogram mostly sputters and farts. And the liner notes by Bert Noglik go to great pains to say mostly nothing. I'll have to put this one aside and have a third listen after I forget -- or pretend to forget -- listening experience number two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Sorry to hear that, Tony! But I really urge you to give this another chance maybe in a few weeks! I liked it a lot, listened to it several times when I got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Tim Berne Special recorded at the London Jazz Festival 2003 including the first performance of a new work commissioned by Jazz On 3 Tim Berne Science Friction Quartet with special guests David Torn and the Arte Saxophone Quartet Tim Berne - alto sax Tom Rainey - drums Craig Taborn - keyboard Marc Ducret - guitar David Torn - guitar, samplers, and electronics Arte Saxophone Quartet Tim Berne Science Friction Quartet with special guest David Torn I saw this group at the 55 Bar (NYC) right before they left for England. Tim Berne - alto sax Tom Rainey - drums Craig Taborn - keyboard (I think) David Torn - guitar, samplers, and electronics I only caught the first set, but it was amazing. It was cool to hear them in such a small room and chat a bit with David. I'd never met him in person and he was nice enough to put me on the guest list. Torn won a Grammy last year for his production/remix work on the last Jeff Beck album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnhrtg Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 FYI - Sergey Kuryokhin's "Some Combinations of Fingers and Passion" is available (again) from Leo records. This was sold out and difficult to get for some years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 FYI - Sergey Kuryokhin's "Some Combinations of Fingers and Passion" is available (again) from Leo records. This was sold out and difficult to get for some years now. This one is essential. Great news that it is back in print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 If you like Sam Rivers in a duo setting, you really should try the wonderful but hard to find 1998 album Winter Garden (Nato) with Tony Hymas at the piano. JPC Germany seems to have it, though. Another fine Rivers album is Configuration (Nato) with Noël Akchoté (guitars), Tony Hymas (piano), Paul Rogers (bass) and Jacques Tholot (drums). Update: I listened to Configuration again, for the first time in ages, and I must admit it's not half as good as I thought... for Winter Garden, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I must admit Hans that I was wondering what you saw / heard in Configuration. (I agree with your present assessment.) Winter Garden is wonderful. (I didn't even know of the existence of this one untill you lead me to it a couple years back. Has it been that long? I think you recommended it and I waited too long before actually attempting to order it. This one can be difficult to find... at a reasonale price, that is.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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