Guest Chaney Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 (edited) This disc is absolutely essential. Fantastic songs and playing by Parker, Hamid Drake, Rob Brown and Lewis Barnes. Thank god Aum Fidelity repressed this disc and gave me a chance to hear it. I was very enthused over this one upon first hearing it -- I even began a thread on it -- but after further listening, I began to consider it just average - SINOW, that is. VERY enjoyable though. Reminds me of ConSequences in that so many of the tunes are catchy... or is it that they're derivative? Can never figure that out. Edited July 28, 2004 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 BTW, new solo Brötzm. is phenomenal. I will elaborate later, but everybody here should do himself (or herself, he-he) a favor and get it. According to (good) Steve Lake's liner notes, this is the best of 5 (!) Brötzmann's solo CDs. Д.Д., any more comments on 14 Love Poems? Won't be able to add any more comments before I get home and re-listen to it which will happen in mid-August only. But trust me, this is good stuff. Probaly Gary could help a bit with reviewing this one before then. I listened to the first 14 tracks & was left feeling exhausted ! If this is about love its certainly a very passionate affair. 'Lonely Woman ' is exceptional - a peaceful start then Brotzmann blows the shit out of it! FANTASTIC!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 (edited) I was very enthused over this one upon first hearing it -- I even began a thread on it -- but after further listening, I began to consider it just average - SINOW, that is. VERY enjoyable though. Reminds me of ConSequences in that so many of the tunes are catchy... or is it that they're derivative? Can never figure that out. I had the opposite experience with it. I started out wondering what all of the fuss was about and was gradually won over by it. It strikes the perfect balance between "free" and "in the pocket" jazz, imo. The tunes are not derivative, although they are not ground-breaking, either. I'm listening to the William Parker Violin Trio- Scrapbook right now. This is another one where I couldn't see what all of the fuss was about on first listen but grew to love after more time listening to it. Billy Bang really makes this one shine. Along with Vietnam: the Aftermath Bang is having a really strong period musically in the past few years. Edited July 28, 2004 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I'm listening to the William Parker Violin Trio- Scrapbook right now. This is another one where I couldn't see what all of the fuss was about on first listen but grew to love after more time listening to it. Billy Bang really makes this one shine. Along with Vietnam: the Aftermath Bang is having a really strong period musically in the past few years. I really love those 2 CDs , have you checked this one out Another corker (also includes another great version of Lonely Woman). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 In the pocket. Exactly. I could see a great many members of this board liking O'Neals Porch a great deal. (Including me as I listened to a library-borrowed copy and would still like to own a copy for myself.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I really love those 2 CDs , have you checked this one out Another corker (also includes another great version of Lonely Woman). Yes, I finally bought a copy a few months back when it entered the Hat mid-price sale. I really enjoyed it, but haven't spent too much time with it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I could see a great many members of this board liking O'Neals Porch a great deal. (Including me as I listened to a library-borrowed copy and would still like to own a copy for myself.) it would make for great BFT material. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm up for another year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 BTW, new solo Brötzm. is phenomenal. I will elaborate later, but everybody here should do himself (or herself, he-he) a favor and get it. According to (good) Steve Lake's liner notes, this is the best of 5 (!) Brötzmann's solo CDs. Д.Д., any more comments on 14 Love Poems? Won't be able to add any more comments before I get home and re-listen to it which will happen in mid-August only. But trust me, this is good stuff. Probaly Gary could help a bit with reviewing this one before then. I listened to the first 14 tracks & was left feeling exhausted ! If this is about love its certainly a very passionate affair. 'Lonely Woman ' is exceptional - a peaceful start then Brotzmann blows the shit out of it! FANTASTIC!!! I'm looking forward to hearing this one some day but have trouple imagining I will listen to a solo Brotz album, especially one with that many tracks, straight through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 (edited) William Parker Quartet - O'Neal's Porch This disc is absolutely essential. Fantastic songs and playing by Parker, Hamid Drake, Rob Brown and Lewis Barnes. Thank god Aum Fidelity repressed this disc and gave me a chance to hear it. I was very enthused over this one upon first hearing it -- I even began a thread on it -- but after further listening, I began to consider it just average - SINOW, that is. VERY enjoyable though. Reminds me of ConSequences in that so many of the tunes are catchy... or is it that they're derivative? Can never figure that out. Didn't find it that interesting either. Derivative is the right word, IMO. Good playing, though. Edited July 29, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 (edited) William Parker Quartet - O'Neal's Porch This disc is absolutely essential. Fantastic songs and playing by Parker, Hamid Drake, Rob Brown and Lewis Barnes. Thank god Aum Fidelity repressed this disc and gave me a chance to hear it. Am I the only person to have been disappointed by this much hyped album? I found it competent but tame, with too little material and, despite its (initial) hard-to-find status, too keen to cross over into a perceived 'mainstream' - as several recent recordings from the Parker/Shipp quarter seem to have been. I think they've lost direction a bit. Edited July 29, 2004 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 William Parker Quartet, O'Neal's Porch (Yea, old news but...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 PETER BROTZMANN / MARCO ENEIDI / LISLE ELLIS / JACKSON KRALL - Live at Spruce Street Forum (Botticelli 1015) Brotzmann plays tenor sax & taragato, Marco plays alto sax, Lisle plays contrabass and Jackson plays drums. Word is that this is a smoking set and no doubt that we believe that fact. Marco Eneidi's recent trio disc with Paul Murphy & Kash Killion (on Cadence) was one of this year's best free/jazz gems, so... CD for $15 I just got an email from Eremite that they now have this one available for $14, shipping included. It is not up on the website yet, but, in the meantime, it can be ordered if you send a message to Michael Ehlers through the "contact Eremite" button on the webpage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Oh, and I remember one more that absolutelys has to be obtained by evrybody on The Rat: Stefano Maltese (reeds) Evan Parker (honorable Italian, reeds) Keith Tippett (equally honorable Italian, piano) Antonio Moncada (percussion) Double Mirror (Splasc(H)). I finally had a chance to listen to this one (the first track is 48 minutes long, so some undivided attention is essential) and really enjoyed it. I need to give it a few more listens before it really sinks in but, so far, I am very impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) Listening to Sylvie Courvoisier/Joelle Leandre/Susie Ibarra: Passaggio (Intakt 076). Pretty fine stuff! Pretty much on the abstract side. Will need a few listens to get acquainted... The liner notes in english: Sylvie Courvoisier once said she tries not to play so much. This can be heard: how she leaves out the dispensable in order to push to the essential. The music gains peace and power. The less it has to prove its virtuosity (via the speed of the runs or the complication of its construction), the more space the tones have. They can begin to ring, to ring on. Playing the essence for her does not mean reducing itself to a core. It simply creates space in her music. Hints can unfold, nuances become perceptible. Composition or improvisation this gap, which has passed through jazz for decades, does not tear her apart. More important for her than choosing a side is the aesthetic quality of each differing position. On the one hand, she writes rigid compositions for rigid instruments such as the barrel organ. On the other, she plays freely in duo or trio. Susie Ibarra was once asked if she thought of herself as a jazz musician. Yes and no, she answered. She enjoys all sorts of things. She plays music in the here and now. The long history of her instrument fascinates her. People have drummed for ages. The language of rhythm is as old as the human voice. First she liked the Butthole Surfers and the Flaming Lips, American hardcore bands to whom conventional rock music was too cozy. Later she chose Milford Graves as her teacher, who had played long ago with Albert Ayler and the New York Art Quartet. And recently she became engrossed in the tabla playing of Samir Chatterjee. She also likes the gamelan sounds from Java and Bali. Birth, initiation, marriage, death many ethnic musics are directed toward ceremonies and transitions, their special mood and meaning. She believes that contemporary music can also be spiritual. Joëlle Léandre asked about her sisters. There have been a few female pianists and singers in jazz but where are all the others? The female trumpet players? On the bass, she is on her own, has pulled and plucked and bowed and stroked for over three decades now. She is a nomad between countries and musical continents. Mostly she plays with men. She met John Cage and performed his music. She has worked with Derek Bailey. Two extremes: Cage, who wanted to break out of tradition and tried it with non-intentionality, who threw coins and consulted the I Ching and who demanded of his interpreters that they play the accidents precisely. In contrast to Bailey, who denies composition and finds his way to sounds from the moment, the encounter and the experience. Far too seldom does Léandre play with women, but whenever gender plays a role in music, she ís not far away. And when the humming, the buzzing of her instrument is not enough, she raises her powerful voice to it. That now two very much younger sisters join her on the stage she likes that very much. As a trio, Sylvie Courvoisier, Susie Ibarra and Joëlle Léandre are a collective. The music documented on this CD originated from the moment. It was recorded after a small tour of Europe, the first five and last three pieces in the studio on April 4, 2001, the four middle pieces live days later at the Taktlos Festival. Ulrich Stock Translation: Bruce Carnevale A nice photo from the booklet: And below the cover Edited July 30, 2004 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) The three ladies are through now, and I'll continue with two more Intakt discs I took with me from the radio station: "Strings" and "Songs" by Euguene Chadbourne, both recorded on the same two dates. Never heard him, and thus I thought I'd take the two discs with me. Cover below ("Strings") (sorry, too lazy to look for larger ones...) Edited July 30, 2004 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 "Songs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 What would you call the music of Chadbourne? Avant-bluegrass-jazz-folk? I like it, but I guess I need a break after the first one. His jazz covers (Monk's Mood, Tenor Madness etc) are great! I like the folksy feel, even more as you know there is something more beneath or behind it, hidden in the background... ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 I'd like to hear your report on this - I find all female collaborations very intriguing - and rare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Speaking of Joelle Leandre, the other day I was playing 'No Waiting' by Derek Bailey and Joelle, the Les Instants Chavires concert out on Potlatch! Found it a bit too opaque for my taste and gave up after about half and hour. Should I go back and try again? Or is anyone looking for that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 I'd like to hear your report on this - I find all female collaborations very intriguing - and rare! Allow for some more listens, I only spun it as background music to do some reorganizing of books, cds etc... I liked what I heard, though. What I can say, is, as I mentioned above, it's pretty abstract - must be Courvoisier, as the mood of the disc sometimes reminds me of the Courvoisier/Feldman/Friedlander "Abaton" set (on ECM). And have I already mentioned what a beautiful woman Susie Ibarra is? By the way, a nice mate posting here, too, sent me a burn of Matt Shipp's Multiplicator Table, and she's friggin' great! I consider her one of the best drummers in that kind of music, lately. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) I'm not too familiar with Ms. Leandre's output. The only one I heard is Leimgruber-Hauser-Leandre "No Try No Fail" (hatOLOGY) - an excellent disc, but definitely not an easy listen - pretty intense even by healthy Funny Rat standards, I would say. I have Leandre's solo bass CD (on Red Toucan) somewhere and her latest Leo release (with Mat Maneri and other good people). -------------------------------------------------------------- Thinking about it, No Try No Fail could be a good subtitle for this thread... Edited July 30, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Uh, anyone thought I like Susie Ibarra? Listening now to Frank Lowe - first time (except for a Don Cherry disc he's on, I never heard him): A great one, in my opinion! Pretty easy-going, pretty mainstream-ish, but very very good, and beautiful sound of the tenor, as well as of the whole trio. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Oh, HELLYEAH! Just arrived at "Body & Soul" - wow! This is magisterial music! Do a google search for "Frank Lowe" and you'll find a nice Fireside chat by Fred Jung (on AAJ). ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 (edited) I'm not too familiar with Ms. Leandre's output. The only one I heard is Leimgruber-Hauser-Leandre "No Trial No Fail" (hatOLOGY) - an excellent disc, but definitely not an easy listen - pretty intense even by healthy Funny Rat standards, I would say. The actual title is No Try No Fail. I think it's fairly easy to listen to, apart from the thankfully short vocalizing by Léandre. Edited July 30, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Oh, HELLYEAH! Just arrived at "Body & Soul" - wow! This is magisterial music! Do a google search for "Frank Lowe" and you'll find a nice Fireside chat by Fred Jung (on AAJ). ubu Yeah, this one is great. And this is Lowe far from his prime as far as pure chops go. ABsolutely check out The Flam on Black Saint - some mighty mighty blowing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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