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I guess Jay Cameron was almost better known over here in Europe during his early prime. He lived in Paris from 1948 and was a regular on the French jazz scene. His 1955 Album ("Jay Cameron's International Sax band") released on Swing (F) and Vigue (GB) and reissued on CD in the "Original Vogue Masters" series by BMG is an interesting one.

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His 1955 Album ("Jay Cameron's International Sax band") released on Swing (F) and Vogue (GB) and reissued on CD in the "Original Vogue Masters" series by BMG is an interesting one.

International_Saxophone_Group.jpg

I dig this album, even if it underachieves at times. Cameron's on the far right.

He's also on Bill Barron's Modern Windows.

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His 1955 Album ("Jay Cameron's International Sax band") released on Swing (F) and Vogue (GB) and reissued on CD in the "Original Vogue Masters" series by BMG is an interesting one.

International_Saxophone_Group.jpg

I dig this album, even if it underachieves at times. Cameron's on the far right.

He's also on Bill Barron's Modern Windows.

is it jaspar, wilen, chautemps, cameron?

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FWIW, here's some biographical information about Jay Cameron:

This talented reed player shares the same birthday as Joseph Jarman, another modern jazzman whose taste in axes includes low-speaking horns such as bass clarinet and baritone saxophone. It is the latter horn that Jay Cameron is best known for, although he also recorded on both bass and regular B flat clarinet as well as alto saxophone, the horn he started out on in the early '40s. Cameron was several touches more of a mainstream jazzman than Jarman, although both have reputations as exciting soloists. On baritone, Cameron was treated to regular standup features during

his tenure with both the Woody Herman big band and trombonist Slide Hampton's group, perhaps the contexts in which he was heard by the widest audience. Cameron also took part in dozens of brilliant jazz recordings during the '50s and '60s, and has been profiled as one of a group of American "expatriate" jazzmen who lived in Europe for extended periods.

He came out of the music scene in Hollywood in the years immediately following the end of the Second World War. Up until 1947 he was part of Ike Carpenter's band; by the end of the decade he had begun the first of his European sojourns, teaming up with veteran trumpeter Rex Stewart in France and Italy. In the early '50s Cameron wandered around with a variety of bands in Belgium, Germany, and the Scandinavian countries. Cameron spent much of 1955 balancing a baguette on his knee, working in Paris with groups that would often hit at the same club for four months running. The following year he was back in the United States and had begun working with Herman, in subsequent years gigging with top jazz leaders, including contrasting trumpeters Chet Baker and Dizzy Gillespie.

Trumpet, in fact, seemed to be the instrument of choice for many of his collaborators. Cameron was one of the first players to work with Freddie Hubbard when that fiery trumpeter first showed up in the Big Apple in 1958, while also holding down the floor for high-note specialist Maynard Ferguson during the same year. He was a busy freelancer during these times, racking up nearly 35 recording dates over the a stretch of only a dozen years. Jay Cameron's International Sax Band was one of the only projects under his own name, and a recording of the group that appears with various scramblings of the title Third Herdsmen: The Vogue Sessions has become something of a collector's item. Beginning in the late '60s, Cameron toured with multi-instrumentalist and bandleader Paul Winter. In 1993, author Bill Moody published -The Jazz Exiles: American Musicians Abroad, a study of the expatriate movement with a chapter focusing on Cameron.

And more courtesy of our own Michael Fitzgerald:

Date: January 10, 1955

Location: Paris, France

Label: Vogue

Jay Cameron (ldr), Jean-Louis Chautemps, Bobby Jaspar, Barney Wilen (ts), Jay Cameron (bar), Henri Renaud (p), Benoît Quersin (b), André Reilles (d)

a. a-01 Blue Note - 3:39 (Jerry van Rooyen)

b. a-02 Rosy - 2:23 (Rob Pronk)

c. a-03 Give Me The Simple Life - 4:29 (Rube Bloom, Harry Ruby)

d. b-01 Brother J. C. - 3:14 (Christian Chevallier)

e. b-02 Static Test - 2:32 (Rob Pronk)

f. b-03 Wooden Sword Street - 3:30 (Jay Cameron)

All titles on: Vogue LP 10": L.D.E. 148 — Jay Cameron's International Sax Band

Swing LP 10": M 33.341 — Jay Cameron's International Sax Band

BMG CD: BVJJ 2952 — Jay Cameron's International Sax Band

BMG CD: 7432 161025 2 — The Third Herdsmen/Jay Cameron's International Sax Band (1999)

Some sources show additional takes of Brother J. C. and Wooden Sword Street. Further details needed.

Date: October 2, 1962

Location: New York City

Label: Atlantic

Jay Cameron (ldr), Jay Cameron (bar), Slide Hampton (tb, eu), Barry Harris (p), Eddie De Haas (b), Elvin Jones (d)

a. 6477 Soft Pretty (Composer Unknown)

Additional titles 6478 "Swingin'" and 6479 "Take It Easy." All titles need composers determined.

Up over and out.

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His 1955 Album ("Jay Cameron's International Sax band") released on Swing (F) and Vogue (GB) and reissued on CD in the "Original Vogue Masters" series by BMG is an interesting one.

International_Saxophone_Group.jpg

I dig this album, even if it underachieves at times. Cameron's on the far right.

He's also on Bill Barron's Modern Windows.

is it jaspar, wilen, chautemps, cameron?

gee, except for Jaspar, they all could fly... :g

nice but pretty short session, that one!

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His 1955 Album ("Jay Cameron's International Sax band") released on Swing (F) and Vogue (GB) and reissued on CD in the "Original Vogue Masters" series by BMG is an interesting one.

International_Saxophone_Group.jpg

I dig this album, even if it underachieves at times. Cameron's on the far right.

He's also on Bill Barron's Modern Windows.

is it jaspar, wilen, chautemps, cameron?

gee, except for Jaspar, they all could fly... :g

nice but pretty short session, that one!

:g

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yea but im like 99% sure this is the guy i used to hear and play with at these late nite jam sessions, bari sax guy....im not 100% on it though....

so what do you play? hank's horn? :excited:

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does anyone know who this musican is? where did he reside?

Jay Cameron lived in San Diego CA until his death several years ago. I met him at local sessions. I subbed for his piano player occasionally when he had a session at his house with drummer Jay Hearn who was originally from Kansas City. Jay is gone also. Jay Cameron was very east coast hipster cool. a very interesting and kind guy. He had many pictures in his band room showing him with Slide Hampton, Maynard, and a variety of NYC cats and guys he was with during his time in Europe. Very cool black and white shots from the jazz golden years. He was most definitely in the middle of that whole scene. He was the real deal. I miss him.

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