AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 1) Pete Brown was the greatest blues player in the history of jazz - listen to his alto solo on Unlucky Blues, behind Helen Humes. One can hear, as he plays it, the band erupting into what appears to be spontaneous acknowledgment - and I won't hold it against him that the tune was written by Leonard Feather - 2) Jonah Jones was one of the greatest swing-era trumpet players; up there with Eldridge/Shavers/Red Allen/Berigan (no not the Republican Berigan); it is not Jonah's fault that he will be forever remembered for those annoying and muted Capitol albums. listen to his solo behind the great singer Georgia White on Papa Please from 1940 - he was also working on some of the same things, rhythmically, that Dizzy was working on, possibly from their association in the Cab Calloway band - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmilovan Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 3) One of the most important and interesting bass players of swing era (and after) was Israel Crosby! His work with Teddy Wilson on "Blues in C# Minor" will be remembered as one of the great moments in history of jazz on that instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 4) Benny Carter was a better trumpet player than he was an alto player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 6) JIMMY Carter was a rotten president - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 7) SARGENT Carter yelled at Gomer too much - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnivore Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Eddie Miller was one of the most individual and original tenor soloists in jazz, combining a beautiful tone, elegant manner of phrasing and his own in-built sense of swing. Much loved jn his day but pretty much ignored now. And not to be lumped in with Bud Freeman, whose playing I admire too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived ouch! i dig Betty - why do you say she was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aparxa Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hotel Carter is one of the cheapest hotel in Manhattan. If it's full, ask for room 1804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I like Betty's early work, but found the later stuff to be just too much of everything - just one man's opinion - I realize I am in the vast minority here - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) but listening to her is for me like having someone scrape their fingernails on a blackboard - Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived This one has been done to death already. http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...l=betty++carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 WE KILLED HER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 but I still love PETE BROWN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 5) BETTY Carter was the most annoying and mannered singer who ever lived Not in her live performances, 1978-82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown - I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom. and who woulda thought it would be on a LEONARD FEATHER blues? (how can I even use those words in the SAME sentence? Feather's the guy who put the WHITE in BLUES). Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown - I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom. and who woulda thought it would be on a LEONARD FEATHER blues? (how can I even use those words in the SAME sentence? Feather's the guy who put the WHITE in BLUES). Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnivore Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown - I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom. I love Pete's playing but - a blues solo better than Prez on 'Undercover Girl' or Bechet on 'Blood on the Moon' Or Jimmie Noone on 'Blues Jumped a Rabbit'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 well, maybe - but she was no Pete Brown - I kid you guys not - his solo on Unlucky Blues (to get back to my original idea) is the greatest blues solo in the history of jazz-dom. I love Pete's playing but - a blues solo better than Prez on 'Undercover Girl' or Bechet on 'Blood on the Moon' Or Jimmie Noone on 'Blues Jumped a Rabbit'? Hey, Allen's allowed to rave a bit now and then. He wouldn't be Allen if he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece - "Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? " right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 yes, by the way, I am a lunatic - and damn proud of it - (don't knock rubber walls until you've tried 'em) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece - "Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? " right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) - Very good. On a related note, you've talked about some others in this thread that I'm interested in. Specifically "the original Alfonso Trent Band; the Missourians; Charlie Johnson; Jeanette's Syncopaters; the Bennie Moten Band; the 1929-1930 Chicagoans (Benny G, Teschmacher, Bud Freeman, Joe Sullivan, Krupa)." Moten I'm acquainted with. And Freeman, through his Mosaic single only, I believe. Are some of these likely to be included in the Blues project? You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD, which didn't jump out at me during a quick pass through your website. Details? (I still have my eye on Jews in Hell, btw. Waiting for the month to clear.) thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have a Pete Brown Classics CD (1942-45), but it doesn't include this track. Is this the only Classics Pete Brown issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 to quote Sarah Palin, you betcha - it is a momentous solo - perfect phrasing, perfect tone, everything - gutbucket sound, turns a cliche into a masterpiece - "Where might one find a copy of Pete Brown's solo on Unlucky Blues? " right now, only on a turntable in my basement - I found it on a British LP reissue from some years ago, the MCA Blues Box, I think it's called, it's a collection of old Deccas (and probably went up in smoke in that Universal fire) - however it WILL be on my blues collection, should it ever see the light of day (which I am hoping will be in 2010) - Very good. On a related note, you've talked about some others in this thread that I'm interested in. Specifically "the original Alfonso Trent Band; the Missourians; Charlie Johnson; Jeanette's Syncopaters; the Bennie Moten Band; the 1929-1930 Chicagoans (Benny G, Teschmacher, Bud Freeman, Joe Sullivan, Krupa)." Moten I'm acquainted with. And Freeman, through his Mosaic single only, I believe. Are some of these likely to be included in the Blues project? You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD, which didn't jump out at me during a quick pass through your website. Details? (I still have my eye on Jews in Hell, btw. Waiting for the month to clear.) thanks All eight sides recorded by the Alfonso Trent band are available on an Oracle CD and are very much worth seeking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) don't know if everything will make the final cut, but most of these will probably be on the blues reissue project (which looks like it's going to be 18 CDs) - I'm still mastering and restoring daily; will probably do 600 cuts, which will have to be reduced to approx. 450 - "You also mentioned your Louis Armstrong CD" I still have lotsa these - glad you mentioned the web site, as I've been having some problems with the software - if you want anything, my paypal is now alowe5@maine.rr.com - hope to correct this soon - the Pete Brown is probably under Helen Humes' name - Edited February 19, 2009 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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