doubleM Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 Well, my prediction went belly up. I didn't intuit that Wells would get hurt. But I wouldn't and won't rule out the Yankees. All these Marlins fanatics should keep their erections in check, 3-2 is still a series. Back to NY. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 wells probably had a hangover... Quote
BERIGAN Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 doubleM said: Well, my prediction went belly up. I didn't intuit that Wells would get hurt. But I wouldn't and won't rule out the Yankees. All these Marlins fanatics should keep their erections in check, 3-2 is still a series. Back to NY. Yankees just know how to build the suspense up, and to truly crush fans of other teams....though it was nice to know the boss will be upset for a few days till they sweep 2 games..... Quote
Brad Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 I frankly don't see how the Yankees lose Game 6. I just don't see it. You know the fans will be pumped and although the team shouldn't need any extra motivation, that will help. I also think the Marlins are making a big mistake by going with Beckett on 3 days rest. Why not save him for Game 7, with full rest. Someone mentioned today on WFAN here in New York today that in '73, Seaver talked Yogi into letting him pitch on 3 days rest, which meant that if they lost, then they'd have to go to Koosman on 3 days rest. Well, guess what, the As did just that and instead of having a rested Seaver, they had to go to Koosman and the rest is history. McKeon should look at Game 6 as a throwaway and have his best going in Game 7. Instead, if he loses he'll have to go with Pavano. I don't think he'll be able to do it. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 i sticking with my pick. if the marlins lose game 6, i don't think they can win game 7 in n.y. they must win game 6. ss1 Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 I agree with you, Brad, though Pavano isn't the worst choice, he pitched a beauty in Game four. Who'd imagine that Pavano and Penny would account for the first three wins-or at least pitch in the first three wins. But I agree, I'd prefer to face Mussina with a rested Beckett in Game Seven, not to throw in the towel on game six, the team ought to be sky high trying to close it out, and they just might get to Pettite. Pettite didn't exactly kill the Sox in Game six last time, and there's a wee bit more pressure on him this time. I do know this, if the Yankees come back they'll truly be insufferable bastards. Whoever said that rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for General Motors, they said a mouthful of truth there. Quote
doubleM Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 "Routing for General Motors"? Let's see...who routes for automobile manufacturers? I sure as hell don't know anyone who does. Go Toyota! You don't exactly have stadiums of people comparing autos off of the production line. Baseball is a game, folks. Routing for Yankees = routing for G.M.?, now that's a mouthful of scat!!! Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 Obviously you do not know your baseball history, not even of your own team. While I cannot at the moment identify the speaker, that line was uttered in the 1950s when the Yankees were winning Series after Series. And by the way, it was uttered at least ten years before I was born. Its making a serious point about rooting for a team that seems destined to win over and over and over again, just like, at the time, G.M. was the dominant car manufacturer, a behemoth that overwhelmed everyone else. If you don't understand the analogy, given its time frame, well ... Quote
Brad Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 Actually, they're insufferable already. I don't know about GM but there was a book that was in print about twenty years ago by Peter Golenbock that was a history of the Yankees from 1949-1964 and the subtitle was "When rooting for the Yankees was like rooting for U.S. Steel." Maybe that's the origin. Quote
doubleM Posted October 24, 2003 Report Posted October 24, 2003 It's all a matter of opinion. I know that as a Yankee fan, I'm less objective--and a Yankee hating person might also not be too objective. I've just never bought into that analogy, that's all. I know that argument has been made for decades, and I can understand it clearly enough in it's historical and current context--and it's still (in my opinion) not airtight, or certainly not without fallacy and sour grapes reasoning. And to argue against routing for a team that "seems destined to win", well... that doesn't exactly have a foundation in logic. We're talking about this year's teams and this year's World Series. (Go Yankees!!!) Not "fate". That is where, to me-- this whole debate gets tiresome. Curses, ghosts, fate, and other biblical and/or homunculoid precepts. You should accept that some people aren't going to sit back and say, "well, I guess someone said or wrote that at some point in history, so they must have been (and still be) spot on!". There is a business side to sports, and it's another way in which the Yankees have succeeded, are succeeding, will succeed. If you can't accept the free enterprise side of organized team sports, then maybe you should watch tennis, or golf. Besides, it's late October... isn't it all about wins and losses at this point? Enjoy the game. Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 (edited) HALLEH-FUCKIN-LUJAH!!!! DING DONG THE FUCKING WITCH IS DEAD!!!!! IF STEINBRENNER GOES APE SHIT ON THIS TEAM, THEN ITS ALL WORTH IT!!! Edited October 26, 2003 by Dan Gould Quote
Matthew Posted October 26, 2003 Author Report Posted October 26, 2003 Dan Gould said: HALLEH-FUCKIN-LUJAH!!!! DING DONG THE FUCKING WITCH IS DEAD!!!!! IF STEINBRENNER GOES APE SHIT ON THIS TEAM, THEN ITS ALL WORTH IT!!! Gee, Dan, I'd hate to see what you wrote before you edited it. But, you're right. Hope the Yankee choke on it over the winter. And George, please get rid of the gerbil that keeps hanging around Torre. Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 (GoM, sorry guy, but after watching the LCS, and 26 Championships and all the rest, this is just too sweet. If only it had been the Sox or the Cubs doing the whooping ...) Quote
BERIGAN Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 Hey, don't count the Yankees out, just cuz the series is 4 to 2... I missed the whole game at a car show, just figured it would still be on , and the Yanks would be up 5 to 1. Thought for sure there would be a game 7, but Beckett is the man it appears..... Quote
Soulstation1 Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 (edited) why aren't yankee fans answering their damn cell-phones? can i get some love on my pick??????????? Edited October 26, 2003 by Soulstation1 Quote
BFrank Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 BERIGAN said: Hey, don't count the Yankees out, just cuz the series is 4 to 2... What??? Can't a team come back after being down 4-2????? Quote
BERIGAN Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 You know, I had no idea how amazingly good the Marlins starters were before the playoffs started!!!!! Becket hit 100 against Sammy Sosa, Penny hit 99 the other day, Pavano was mid 90's, and one of the main reasons they were able to be in the World Series, Dontrelle Willis, was a left hand specialist in the WS! and to think they did this without their stud pitcher!!!! I always heard about was A.J. Burnett. When he gets healthy, look out!!!! Wonder how Burnett, and Torburg feel about this????? A May 7th story about a team that you would not expect to be in the World's Champs .... Team schedules elbow exam for Beckett -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Associated Press MIAMI -- The Florida Marlins, who already have two starting pitchers on the disabled list, lost right-hander Josh Beckett to an elbow injury Wednesday night. Beckett Beckett was pulled from the 3-2 loss to San Francisco after one inning because he felt discomfort in his elbow. After Beckett was examined by team physician Dr. Dan Kanell, the Marlins hastily scheduled an appointment for the right-hander Thursday with orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. Andrews performed reconstructive elbow surgery April 29 on another young Marlins right-hander, A.J. Burnett, who may be sidelined until 2005. Left-hander Mark Redman broke the thumb on his pitching hand the same day and likely will be out until late this month. "I didn't think it could happen again," manager Jeff Torborg said. "Unfortunately it has." Beckett threw 28 pitches in his only inning against the Giants, including more curveballs than usual. His fastball topped out at 96 mph, but he walked Benito Santiago with the bases loaded and left trailing 1-0. "He wanted to keep pitching," Torborg said. "I said, 'Uh-uh. I'm not fooling with this.' " Beckett said he has been bothered by stiffness and tenderness in his elbow since a start in Philadelphia on April 15. He downplayed the symptoms in discussions with the training staff -- until Wednesday night. "It has been an ongoing deal," he said. "I don't think it's that bad. Hopefully I miss five days and I'm back at it." Beckett, 22, has never had elbow trouble. He had tendinitis in his right shoulder as a minor leaguer in 2000, and he spent three stints on the disabled list last year because of recurring blisters on the middle finger of his pitching hand. Beckett is 2-3 with a 3.76 ERA in eight starts. http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0507/1550643.html Quote
Matthew Posted October 26, 2003 Author Report Posted October 26, 2003 BFrank said: BERIGAN said: Hey, don't count the Yankees out, just cuz the series is 4 to 2... What??? Can't a team come back after being down 4-2????? If they could, the Brooklyn Dodgers would've ruled the world! Quote
Brad Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 As the Yankee announcers might have said: GAME OVER. SEASON OVER. WORLD SERIES OVER. AH, THE YANKEES LOSE, AH, THE YANKEES LOSE! Quote
Matthew Posted October 26, 2003 Author Report Posted October 26, 2003 It's always kind of a bummer when the is Series over.... no more baseball until March, YIKES! Well, the NBA is always there for kicks, and I can read my baseball books in the depths of cold Los Angeles winters, where we fight those unmercifull 65 degree days. Quote
JSngry Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 The Series WAS originally a best-of-9 thing, so with a little lobbying from George... Quote
ghost of miles Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 Dan Gould said: (GoM, sorry guy, but after watching the LCS, and 26 Championships and all the rest, this is just too sweet. If only it had been the Sox or the Cubs doing the whooping ...) Hey man, I'm just happy for Jack McKeon. Torre already has 4 rings, y'know? In any case--the Steinbrenner GOP curse lives on. We ain't got a chance at the title again till 2005 at the earliest (or maybe 2009--groan!). I really meant it going in when I said I favored the Marlins to win it. They're a hell of a team, obviously. Quote
Brad Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 You have to hear the Yankee fans today. I was listening to WFAN (the local sports station here in the NY area) this morning. These guys are about to ready to jump of the Brooklyn Bridge this morning. Change this, change that. This is my reward, hearing those arrogant idiots brought back to earth. As Dan said awhile ago, this will be a far different team next year. No Roger, no Wells, maybe no Pettite. They may find out how the other half lives. Ah, the Yankees lose. That sure does have a nice sound to it. Quote
doubleM Posted October 26, 2003 Report Posted October 26, 2003 Well, The Marlins were impressive. Beckett, Conine, Pierre. A damn good little squad. Yankees couldn't hit the ball. It must have been like porn for a lot of you guys. Except I doubt if there are any actual Marlins fans posting here, so I'd imagine that routing against the dominant team (instead of for y'r own teams-- who also watched) must be like getting sloppy seconds. Oh well... it was a good post-season. I drowned my sorrows last night, and now I'm looking forward to watching some hoops. Quote
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