montg Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Mentioned already by Joe and Bruce, but I wanted to bring attention back to this particular two-fer. Not only is the music great (particularly Starting Time), but the original recording by Ray Fowler (and subsequent remastering by Kirk Felton) is fairly amazing. The horns are dramatically up-front — right there on your lap — but somehow they don't drown out the contributions of the rhythm section. (If you're a Wilbur Ware fan, you need to add this to your collection!) Both albums, originally on Jazzland, are some of the best-sounding I have on compact disc. And, sonics aside, Jordan's solos ... like your favorite slice of cheesecake and cappuccino: scrumptious. (And I didn't even get started on Dorham's contributions ... ) Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy of this, it is yet another victim of the concord purge so, carpe diem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Clifford Jordan is also one of my favorite tenorplayers. I' amazed that only once have "Royal Ballads" been mentioned, it is one of my favorite CD's: Clifford Jordan (tenor), Kevin O'Connell(piano), Ed Howard(bass), Vernell Fournier(drums). Lush Life; Pannonica; Royal Blues; Little Girl Blue; Armando; Don't Get Around Much Anymore; Everything Happens To Me; 'Round about Midnight. CrissCross CD 1025, it is a must for everybody that dig Clifford Jordan. Recorded 12/23/1986 by Van Gelder, Vic ROYAL BALLADS is an absolute gem. I really like the other Criss Cross, TWO TENOR WINNER also. Time to pull them out again. Haven't spun MOSAIC for awhile, either. Thank goodness for upped threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Mentioned already by Joe and Bruce, but I wanted to bring attention back to this particular two-fer. Not only is the music great (particularly Starting Time), but the original recording by Ray Fowler (and subsequent remastering by Kirk Felton) is fairly amazing. The horns are dramatically up-front — right there on your lap — but somehow they don't drown out the contributions of the rhythm section. (If you're a Wilbur Ware fan, you need to add this to your collection!) Both albums, originally on Jazzland, are some of the best-sounding I have on compact disc. And, sonics aside, Jordan's solos ... like your favorite slice of cheesecake and cappuccino: scrumptious. (And I didn't even get started on Dorham's contributions ... ) Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy of this, it is yet another victim of the concord purge so, carpe diem Just got this from Newbury Comics a few weeks ago and am enjoying mightily. I'm well on my way to owning every Wilbur Ware session extant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) Oops, missed Mosaic as I was assembling a large Newbury order. Looking forward to Bearcat. Fan of Cliff Craft, Plays Leadbelly, and Blowing in from Chicago. Edited August 11, 2007 by Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Mentioned already by Joe and Bruce, but I wanted to bring attention back to this particular two-fer. Not only is the music great (particularly Starting Time), but the original recording by Ray Fowler (and subsequent remastering by Kirk Felton) is fairly amazing. The horns are dramatically up-front — right there on your lap — but somehow they don't drown out the contributions of the rhythm section. (If you're a Wilbur Ware fan, you need to add this to your collection!) Both albums, originally on Jazzland, are some of the best-sounding I have on compact disc. And, sonics aside, Jordan's solos ... like your favorite slice of cheesecake and cappuccino: scrumptious. (And I didn't even get started on Dorham's contributions ... ) Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy of this, it is yet another victim of the concord purge so, carpe diem Just got this from Newbury Comics a few weeks ago and am enjoying mightily. I'm well on my way to owning every Wilbur Ware session extant. I knew you'd dig this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) I like Clifford Jordan a lot. My collection lacks many of his solo albums though, so I have a question: Is Highest Mountain on Muse (NOT the one Steeplechase!) the same recording as Night of the Mark VII? Edited August 12, 2007 by Kyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Yes, it's the same except that One for Amos is added: NIGHT OF THE MARK VII (CLIFFORD JORDAN) Label: Muse #5076 LP 1975 Artists: Clifford Jordan, Cedar Walton, Sam Jones, Billy Higgins Songs: John Coltrane, The Highest Mountain, Blue Monk, Midnite Waltz, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Thanks. It seems One For Amos is on the CD editions of both albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 In the World was reissued in the past year by P-Vine, here's a review link: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gxfwxqlgldte Another cheaper alternative to the out of print Starta East LPs Glass Bead Games (Vols. 1 & 2) reissued by Bomba: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0zfpxqyrldfe I got my review copies through Clifford Jordan's widow, so I presume they were legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 All this Clifford Jordan talk made me order Glass Bead Games (the both-LPs-on-one-CD edition). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 All this Clifford Jordan talk made me order Glass Bead Games (the both-LPs-on-one-CD edition). Got it today! Just listening to it. Beautiful stuff! Night of the Mark VII will be next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Just ordered the GLASS BEAD GAMES reissue after reading about it over at Destination Out--sounds like a really fine date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkeith Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Interesting thread. I agree with most of what's been said excepting the warm reception of THE ADVENTURER. It's a very average date by Jordan standards (similar to The Pentagon -- speaking of atrocious covers). Some things I would add to check out: Benny Powell's Coast to Coast with a great version of THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN Dick Griffin's Now Is The Time -- Jordan is featured prominently, particularly on THE QUEEN I got to see Clifford in 1992 at The Hasty Pudding Club. Clifford let me tape that show, and the band was John Hicks, Jamil Nasser and Vernell Fournier. Great night! The key with Jordan is it would be quicker to list the stuff to avoid than the stuff worth getting. Clifford is a pretty safe bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 I have been listening to, and been floored by, those live recordings of Clifford Jordan and the Magic Triangle lately. Need a spot to remark on my enthusiasm and this is probably the only spot on the internet that might care. On Stage Vol. 3 is blowing my mind right now. The first cut, Seven Minds, legit sounds like they're channeling the Coltrane Quartet. Then a couple songs later they're doing this burning calypso St Thomas. Feel like few working bands displayed such mastery and range. Ay other fans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 2/29/2008 at 10:56 AM, ghost of miles said: Just ordered the GLASS BEAD GAMES reissue after reading about it over at Destination Out--sounds like a really fine date. Finally got around to hearing this for the first time a few months ago, via the Mosaic box - it’s exceptionally good. More straight ahead than I expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 So theres new Clifford Jordan to be heard. As I mentioned in another thead I heard the Vienna composition and it sounded great. HAven't heard the whole record but it looks tempting. Personell is: Clifford Jordan (tenor saxophone), Cees Slinger (piano), Ruud Jacobs (bass), Han Bennink (drums), Steve Boston (congas) Anyone else heard it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 Nice to hear that this series is still running ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 I snapped it up soon after it was released, a great example of Clifford Jordan in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 20 Author Report Share Posted August 20 (edited) I got a copy from The Bastards several weeks ago, and it’s a real winner. The CD has a whole separate session, which is also wonderful (even “…Ipanema“, easily the best version of the tune I’ve ever heard). https://www.discogs.com/release/30623134-Clifford-Jordan-Beyond-Paradiso-1969-1970 The first session (which is all that’s on the LP version) contains 3/4ths of the tunes found on In The World — in versions stripped down for a simple quartet. As fine a document of Clifford Jordan around that time as you could ever hope for. Edited August 20 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pim said: So theres new Clifford Jordan to be heard. As I mentioned in another thead I heard the Vienna composition and it sounded great. HAven't heard the whole record but it looks tempting. Personell is: Clifford Jordan (tenor saxophone), Cees Slinger (piano), Ruud Jacobs (bass), Han Bennink (drums), Steve Boston (congas) Anyone else heard it yet? Very tempting. Just found samples here @Pimhttps://www.juno.co.uk/products/clifford-jordan-beyond-paradiso-1969-vinyl/1018399-01/ Edited August 20 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 Enjoyed it very much. Han keeps it pretty straight, not like the recordings with Rollins where he opens up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted August 20 Report Share Posted August 20 5 hours ago, mjazzg said: Very tempting. Just found samples here @Pimhttps://www.juno.co.uk/products/clifford-jordan-beyond-paradiso-1969-vinyl/1018399-01/ Samples sound pretty promising thanks. I’ll probably get this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 The best Clifford Jordan I ever heard was on Mingus´ album "Right Now" (Life at the Jazzworkshop San Francisco). Maybe due to the fact that Dolphy and Byard had left, he had to carry all the load together with Mingus and Dannie, and I think it was good for him because he masters it and plays his ass of on that little record..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 One of my very favorite Clifford Jordan albums. What a fabulous quintet - Clifford Jordan, Art Farmer, Sonny Clark, George Tucker, Louis Hayes The tunes are all winners too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 5 hours ago, Gheorghe said: The best Clifford Jordan I ever heard was on Mingus´ album "Right Now" (Life at the Jazzworkshop San Francisco). Maybe due to the fact that Dolphy and Byard had left, he had to carry all the load together with Mingus and Dannie, and I think it was good for him because he masters it and plays his ass of on that little record..... Have you heard Max Roach's Speak Brother, Speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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