mjzee Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the board. "Blue Note Records has unlocked their voluminous vault and allowed Amazon Music to re-release more than 200 formerly out-of-print treasures. Landmark recordings, from across their 70 year history, now available again on CD, exclusively." See this link: LINK. Lotsa OOP titles. Hank Mobley: A Slice of the Top, Far Away Lands; Julius Watkins; Edmond Hall; etc. Edited January 14, 2009 by mjzee Quote
Alexander Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the board. "Blue Note Records has unlocked their voluminous vault and allowed Amazon Music to re-release more than 200 formerly out-of-print treasures. Landmark recordings, from across their 70 year history, now available again on CD, exclusively." See this link: LINK. Lotsa OOP titles. Hank Mobley: A Slice of the Top, Third Season, etc. Why release these as CD-Rs? Why not just straight downloads? Quote
Aggie87 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Way too expensive for CDRs of material they've made their money on over and over, IMO. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) but they have "Bemsha Swing"!!! odd, but not surprising most of all the Tony Williams are now becoming available even with the Select in print. Oh well, I have the Select plus now a real copy of Tokyo Live so I'm good Edited January 14, 2009 by CJ Shearn Quote
Guest Bill Barton Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Insane! Totally insane. Fifteen bucks for a freakin' CD-R? No thanks... Quote
sidewinder Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Nice to see the 'Bemsha Swing' available but $30 is a bit ridiculous ! Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 well, the Hutcherson Live at Montreux one I got is of pretty high quality. I haven't had a CDR go bad yet so my faith is restored in them after reading some scary stuff here. Quote
Shawn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Still...$15 for a CDR? No thanks, it's a ripoff. Sell a .FLAC download for $9.99 with a .pdf of the artwork and it would be worth it. Quote
RDK Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere on the board. "Blue Note Records has unlocked their voluminous vault and allowed Amazon Music to re-release more than 200 formerly out-of-print treasures. Landmark recordings, from across their 70 year history, now available again on CD, exclusively." See this link: LINK. Lotsa OOP titles. Hank Mobley: A Slice of the Top, Third Season, etc. Why release these as CD-Rs? Why not just straight downloads? My guess? They expect a generally older demographic that's "frightened" of digital downloads. That, and they're hoping just to fool a few people into thinking these are regular ol' CDs. Quote
JohnS Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 How do they work out these prices? Horace Parlan's Us Three, more than $31.!!!!! Quote
Claude Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) How do they work out these prices? Horace Parlan's Us Three, more than $31.!!!!! That seems to be an exception, maybe an error. I can't see why this should be more expensive than the others. There are far more rare titles in the list (Odyssey Of Iska. Gil Mellé, etc) Having samplers in this programme like the "Jazz profile" CDs with McCoy Tyner or Gerry Mulligan , at $15, seems quite silly. Edited January 14, 2009 by Claude Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 If I may quote "House of Pain", this is "Insane in the membrane, insane in the brain". Is there really a demand for all of these titles, things like Sherman Irby, "Big Mama's Biscuits"? WTF. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 thats actually Cypress Hill your quoting, Cliff Quote
mjzee Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Posted January 14, 2009 I really like Big Mamma's Biscuits! As for the prices, my thought is these are manufactured one by one, on demand. Handcrafted, if you will. I can see that being expensive. I'd have preferred them being cheaper and available through downloads, but maybe that was part of the deal: it's only economically viable if there are no competing downloads to sap sales. Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 If I may quote "House of Pain", this is "Insane in the membrane, insane in the brain". Is there really a demand for all of these titles, things like Sherman Irby, "Big Mama's Biscuits"? WTF. "32 used and new from .01" I don't think there's too much demand ... Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 As for this reissue "program" - they're trying out one model, CD-R on Demand. It doesn't work due to foolish pricing decisions, they're more likely to go to downloads than to decide "F-it, this doesn't work." Quote
Dan Gould Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 BTW, we need to make sure Allen knows that Hot Dog is in this batch. Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 thats actually Cypress Hill your quoting, Cliff Where the hell was I getting "House of Pain", ah Cypress Hill, the 90's, it seems so far away now. Thanks CJ. Quote
CSB046 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Hi all. Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. That, and they're hoping just to fool a few people into thinking these are regular ol' CDs. Just had to chime in and say, "Yep, they got me." I recently got back "into" listening to jazz, and I've been adding a lot of CDs from Amazon to fill some gaps in my collection. I had noted a couple of Blue Note titles that were CD-R and skipped them, but I missed the fact that Duke Pearson's Wahoo! was such a reissue. When I received the CD, I did note the fact that the booklet staples were straight through the middle of the front cover (not at the spine), but I wrote it off as a Blue Note manufacturing defect. Now I know it was an Amazon manufacturing defect! Oh well. I copied the disc straight to my iTunes library and then put the disc into storage, so hopefully the sound quality is fine, even if the CD-R has issues down the road. P.S. Thanks to everyone for some very entertaining reading in the time I've been lurking. Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Hi all. Long-time lurker, first-time poster here. That, and they're hoping just to fool a few people into thinking these are regular ol' CDs. Just had to chime in and say, "Yep, they got me." I recently got back "into" listening to jazz, and I've been adding a lot of CDs from Amazon to fill some gaps in my collection. I had noted a couple of Blue Note titles that were CD-R and skipped them, but I missed the fact that Duke Pearson's Wahoo! was such a reissue. When I received the CD, I did note the fact that the booklet staples were straight through the middle of the front cover (not at the spine), but I wrote it off as a Blue Note manufacturing defect. Now I know it was an Amazon manufacturing defect! Oh well. I copied the disc straight to my iTunes library and then put the disc into storage, so hopefully the sound quality is fine, even if the CD-R has issues down the road. P.S. Thanks to everyone for some very entertaining reading in the time I've been lurking. Welcome!!! Quote
Claude Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) To be fair to Amazon, the product description says "CD-R" (as opposed to "Audio CD") right at the beginning, and the longer description text says "recordable media". So I don't believe they will fool anyone into thinking these are manufactured CDs. This page gives details about how the scheme works: https://www.createspace.com/Products/CDOnDe...390.cspworker00 Edited January 14, 2009 by Claude Quote
RDK Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 For what it's worth, while I might question the model/pricing, I have no concerns about the sound quality. They should sound identical to pressed CDs. Quote
CSB046 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 To be fair to Amazon, the product description says "CD-R" (as opposed to "Audio CD") right at the beginning, and the longer description text says "recordable media". So I don't believe they will fool anyone into thinking these are manufactured CDs. Only those of us not paying attention. (Personally, I wasn't blaming Amazon, other than for the mis-stapling of the booklet.) For what it's worth, while I might question the model/pricing, I have no concerns about the sound quality. They should sound identical to pressed CDs. That's good to hear! Now that I've accidentally bought one, I'm kind of inclined to see what other ones I might want (though you're right that the prices are on the high side). Quote
BruceH Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Still, it seems to me that CD-R's should cost a lot less than CD's. Edited January 14, 2009 by BruceH Quote
AndrewHill Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 A couple of questions: One: does anyone know if these are allowed to be sold on the "used" market at Amazon or Ebay and will they be correctly identified there as CD-R's? Two: if anyone has one of these Blue Note CD-R's, would they be willing to scan the cover, tray card and cd, to see what they look like? Thanks in advance! HG Quote
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