Debbie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Thank you Niko I'll wait a few months more to have other news for that. If there are not out in the States, no chance to find them in France It's really a problem everytime as the distributor (? not sure of the word) change twice a year. It's a chance we aleady found the other s from the beginning to 1464 Quote
Debbie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'd assume that what's not available in France is not available anywhere else. And by this point in time, I'd assume the label to be gone (at least as a CD selling label). yes king ubu, anywhere else in Europe, perhaps yes but I thought it was printed in the USA, right ? so easier to find by internet. This is not the case ... Quote
Niko Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'd assume that what's not available in France is not available anywhere else. And by this point in time, I'd assume the label to be gone (at least as a CD selling label). yes king ubu, anywhere else in Europe, perhaps yes but I thought it was printed in the USA, right ? so easier to find by internet. This is not the case ... no, they are/were french... ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_Classics ) Quote
king ubu Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 The official distribution partner in Europe was Abeille Musique - if they don't list the new releases, they're not (yet) released, I guess. Quote
Debbie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'am surprised as I never found the Chronological on Abeilles's site. We can only find nbrs out in 2007 ! We bought them at the Fnac in fact but they receive very few ex. and we have to go every week to be sure to get them as they never now the date of availability. The last distributor was "Nocturne", the one before around n° 1412 it was Night & Day, and the one before was "Melodie" ... Thank you for your help, I see we just have to wait ... I will keep you informed if available in France first Quote
brownie Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 Chronological Classics was part of the Nocturne Jazz label which had purchased the Abeille label. Now Nocturne has been purchased a few months ago by Plus Loin. It's been months since any new Classics has been sighted here. Plus Loin doe not seem to be interested in continuing the Chronological Classics saga Quote
jostber Posted August 6, 2009 Report Posted August 6, 2009 I'd really wish there could be more new CD releases in this great series. Quote
Swinging Swede Posted August 9, 2009 Author Report Posted August 9, 2009 Classics 1465-1469 were never released but were supposed to be the next batch: 1465 Benny Goodman 1952-1954 1466 Sonny Rollins 1951-1954 1467 Buddy DeFranco 1952-1953 1468 Pearl Bailey 1950-1953 1469 Tommy Dorsey 1939-1940 It would have been a very useful batch. The Benny Goodman would have had the remaining recordings before the 12" LP era. The Buddy DeFranco would have had the remaining MGM recordings (with Kenny Drew, Jimmy Raney, Art Blakey etc). The TD would have completed his 30s recordings and started to delve into the 40s when he modernized his sound with the help of arrangers like Sy Oliver and later Bill Finegan. Some great soloists would arrive in the 40s also, including Buddy DeFranco! I'm not crazy about readily available material like the Rollins, but perhaps that would have sold. It's a shame this batch didn't come out. By the way, does anyone have info about what the next Blues & Rhythm titles would have been? The two last released were 5188 Sonny Boy Williamson 1953-1956 5189 Lonnie Johnson 1947-1948 but I'm thinking that they would mention in the booklet what the next titles were supposed to be. Quote
Cliff Englewood Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) This is very good, if you see it, it's well worth picking up; Benny Carter: 1954. AMG Review. Amazon Link with sound clips. Edited August 17, 2009 by Cliff Englewood Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 After putting lots of titles up for download via amazon, e-music etc, there seems to have been a long hiatus. I'm waiting for one Fats Waller disc to appear. Hope financial problems haven't torpedoed the download option too! Quote
captainknut Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 I know there is a Cab Calloway 1949-1955 album in the series, but it is nowhere in the list. Does anybody have info on that album? What is the catalog number? Quote
jostber Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) Classics 1465-1469 were never released but were supposed to be the next batch: 1465 Benny Goodman 1952-1954 1466 Sonny Rollins 1951-1954 1467 Buddy DeFranco 1952-1953 1468 Pearl Bailey 1950-1953 1469 Tommy Dorsey 1939-1940 It would have been a very useful batch. The Benny Goodman would have had the remaining recordings before the 12" LP era. The Buddy DeFranco would have had the remaining MGM recordings (with Kenny Drew, Jimmy Raney, Art Blakey etc). The TD would have completed his 30s recordings and started to delve into the 40s when he modernized his sound with the help of arrangers like Sy Oliver and later Bill Finegan. Some great soloists would arrive in the 40s also, including Buddy DeFranco! I'm not crazy about readily available material like the Rollins, but perhaps that would have sold. It's a shame this batch didn't come out. By the way, does anyone have info about what the next Blues & Rhythm titles would have been? The two last released were 5188 Sonny Boy Williamson 1953-1956 5189 Lonnie Johnson 1947-1948 but I'm thinking that they would mention in the booklet what the next titles were supposed to be. Would like to see these release too. Thanks for the info! Edited August 19, 2009 by jostber Quote
redgaz17 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Hi everyone, Great forum this! i've following this forum for a while now. Classics 1465-1469 were never released but were supposed to be the next batch. I'm really not sure what is occurring with this excellent label, as far as I'm aware - although I might be mistaken that there were legal issues with a new label 'In Chronology'. This label had the same track listing as C' Classics and the same inlay photographs but different covers. Brother 'Jaffa' a few threads ago I think had some insider knowledge on the fate of this legal wrangle, but nothing has been heard since. Like everyone else I hope that this great label will continue where it left off, we can only hope I guess and watch his space! Quote
gmonahan Posted August 19, 2009 Report Posted August 19, 2009 Welcome redgaz! A double welcome from me as well! greg mo Quote
redgaz17 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Thanks, I'll keep abreast with the latest discussions. Keep jazzin'! Quote
brownie Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 As far as releasing new CDs, the Classics series are dead by now Maybe Jaffa knows more! Quote
king ubu Posted August 21, 2009 Report Posted August 21, 2009 Yes, alas it seems that was it. It's sad, but on the other hand, what an amazing achievement it was! Quote
jostber Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Does the owner say anything about it, and why are there no more releases in the Blues & Rhythm series as well? In my opinion the Classics series was the foundation for the the Penguin Jazz guide to Jazz on CD. This series made it possible to get a complete overview of the released material by early jazz artists, making this book much more authoritative and comprehensive. Edited August 22, 2009 by jostber Quote
BERIGAN Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 You know, it's sad that there seem to be no jazz fans that are Billionaires, or even mere multi-Millionaires. there is always someone ready to buy a sports team that's on the market. Have to be a billionaire to own a baseball team. Quote
brownie Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 I'ld probably be a millionaire if I had not purchased all those (Classics and others) albums Not sure I'ld really be happier! Quote
captainknut Posted August 24, 2009 Report Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) I know this Ellington 10-CD box is also more or less a Classics rip-off. Does someone own it, and can clarify which Classics albums the box covers? Edited August 24, 2009 by Knutte Quote
bichos Posted August 24, 2009 Report Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) "watermelon man" as the first track on the cover???????? one of duke´s biggest compositions and most famouse melodies......... keep boppin´ marcel Edited August 24, 2009 by bichos Quote
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