Big Al Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Maybe I missed an earlier thread, but these titles just appeared at BMG: Luiz Bonfa - Violão e o Samba Elizeth Cardoso & Ciro Monteiro - A Bossa Eterna de Elizeth e Ciro Eumir Deodato - Idéia João Donato - Chá Dancante Quarteto Novo - Quarteto Novo Walter Wanderley - Samba no Esquema de Walter Wanderley Anyone know anything about these? The only info provided is the usual long-winded AMG Thom Jurek babble. Quote
user0815 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Anyone know anything about these? no, i don't know anything. but i just found out that amazon.de has sound samples of these albums. Quote
user0815 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) yes, sir! Walter Wanderley - Samba no Esquema de Walter Wanderley Luiz Bonfa - Violão e o Samba Quarteto Novo - Quarteto Novo Joao Donato - Cha Dancante Eumir Deodato - Idéia Elizeth Cardoso & Ciro Monteiro - A Bossa Eterna de Elizeth e Ciro Edited December 30, 2008 by user0815 Quote
jazzbo Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Of those I know, I would list them in order of preference: Quarteto Novo Bonfa Donato Deodata The Quarteto Novo is very very nice. Quote
jazzbo Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 These are also on yourmusic.com Quote
king ubu Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 These aren't exaclty from Blue Note... Odeon reissues all, I think? I caught an earful of the Wanderley in a store recently, left it behind though it was cheap... Quote
king ubu Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 yes, sir! Walter Wanderley - Samba no Esquema de Walter Wanderley Luiz Bonfa - Violão e o Samba Quarteto Novo - Quarteto Novo Joao Donato - Cha Dancante Eumir Deodato - Idéia Elizeth Cardoso & Ciro Monteiro - A Bossa Eterna de Elizeth e Ciro Pery Ribeiro & Leny Andrade - Gemini V Doris Miltinho e charme Pery Ribeiro & Bossa 3 - Encontro Antonio Carlos Jobim & Vinicius de Moraes - Orfeu da Conceicao Marcos Valle - Samba Demais Elza Soares - Elsa Pede Passagem Quote
king ubu Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) and another series, though not from EMI, but if we're talking recent reissues of Brasilian music - these are from 2004 and some are OOP it seems: Elenco Brazil-Serie Contrastes (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Odette Lara Bossa Balanco Balada (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Sylvia Telles Nara (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Nara Leao A Bossa Nova de Roberto Menescal (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Roberto Menescal Samba E Aracy de Almeida (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Aracy de Almeida Sidney Miller (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Sidney Miller Surfboard (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Roberto Menescal Balancamba (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Lucio Alves Bossa Nova York (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Sergio Mendes Trio (with Art Farmer!) Um Senhor Talento (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Sergio Ricardo De Vinicius e Baden Especialmente Para Ciro Monteiro (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Ciro Monteiro Caymmi Visita Tom (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Dorival Caymmi / Antonio Carlos Jobim Maysa (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Maysa Antonio Carlos Jobim (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Antonio Carlos Jobim Reencontro (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Sylvia Telles / Edu Lobo / Tamba Trio / Quinteto Villa Lobos Edu e Bethania (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Edu Lobo / Maria Bethania Vinicius/Caymmi No Zum Zum (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Vinicius de Moraes / Dorival Caymmi / Oscar Castro-Neves / Quartetto Em Cy Cantiga de Longe (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Edu Lobo Vinicius & Odette Lara (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Vinicius de Moraes / Odette Lara The Astrud Gilberto Album - With Antonio Carlos Jobim (Elenco Brazil-Serie) von Astrud Gilberto sorry - I was in fast reply and hit "enter" once too often, hence the edit... seems several of these are gone for good, I don't have a single one, alas... which ones would be essential? Edited January 3, 2009 by king ubu Quote
Big Al Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Well, a quick Google search yielded a link to a review on this page: A Celebration Of 50 Years Of Bossa Nova: 13 album reissues A Celebration Of 50 Years Of Bossa Nova... What we have here are 13 album reissues from the important Odeon/EMI catalogue. All available on CD for the first time. Among the many is the beautiful Moraes/Jobim/Paiva epic Orfeu Da Conceicao (which is based on the Greek myths of Orpheus). This is supposedly the album that started it all. We have the (Joao) Donato Cha Dancante, which is an acquired taste with the Frevo-style accordion present throughout. Next is the album A Bossa Eterna by Elizabeth E Cyro. It's an unusual title considering that there is really only one Bossa on it (the rest are all out-and-out Sambas) of which the same can also be said of the firebrand Elza Soares' Pede Passagem. Soares is the Queen Of Samba - she is to Brazil what the late Celia Cruz is to Afro Cuban music and here that is exactly what she sings - sambas. There isn't a Bossa in sight. Once again this is the case of Eumir (Deodato) Ideias too. A beautifully orchestrated album nevertheless. The Doris, Miltinho E Charme is simply gorgeous as is the classic Luiz Bonfa O Violao E O Samba. Pery Ribiero And Bossa 3 Encontro is mainly all ballads; a surprise considering how heavy-duty the Bossa 3's own albums are. Nice though. The classic Marcos Valle Samba Demais is a classic for a reason and this soulful and laid back album is his trademark. Again though, not a Bossa in sight. Organist Walter Wanderley's Samba No Esquema hasn't aged very well I'm afraid. I personally love it but there will be those that will call it (the derogatory term) 'lounge' etc. It still sounds nice and chunky though. There is the superb live concert by Pery Ribeiro, Leny Andrade and Bossa 3 called Gemini V. It's very exciting and well recorded. A good purchase I would say (but again, no Bossa!). Saving my two favourites to the end: Firstly we have the debut album by the Milton Banana Trio. A faultless album by this classic drummer, and very heavy indeed. This is absolutely littered with classics. Everything about this recording is top-notch. Lastly, the debut album by the barrier-breaking Quarteto Novo. Among the line-up is drummer/percussionist Airto Moreira on his second ever recording and Hermeto Pascaol - one of the most important Brasilian musicians in the country's history. This album is musical perfection from beginning to end, and I cannot recommend it highly enough. I know this is rare too because I was offered £300 pounds for my copy twenty years ago! OK, the bad news - firstly, the packaging is absolutely awful. You know if you buy a mid-price CD and it has that triangular sticker on it saying 'mid-price'? These have the same size triangle on with 'Celebrate Bossa Nova 50 Years' on it but actually printed on the bloody sleeve so you can't peel it off. It is very ugly and clumsy and ruins these beautiful sleeves (of which the artwork is just as unique as you would find on the classic sleeves of the Blue Note or Prestige labels); secondly: we could have done with some indepth sleeve-notes telling us WHY these albums are important and what musicians are on it, and thirdly: Most of these albums are not even Bossa Nova! I don't know who selected these albums for reissue (apparently 'experts') but there was so many more that should have got a reissue in front of half of these. Sorry, it's all been clumsily done and a missed opportunity. Still, at least some of these amazing albums are on CD at last. Edited December 30, 2008 by Big Al Quote
DMP Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Besides "yourmusic," several of the titles (probably the same ones) are available at BMG - they might actually be a little cheaper there under the current year-end deal. Quote
Noj Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I struggle to distinguish bossa from samba from mpb. I'll be adding these to my yourmusic queue, I hope they stay available for a while! Quote
jazzbo Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 If they're available on cd for the first time. . . how come I have some of these on cd? Quote
seeline Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) These aren't exaclty from Blue Note... Odeon reissues all, I think? I caught an earful of the Wanderley in a store recently, left it behind though it was cheap... EMI Brasil. The Odeon catalog belongs to them. As for the title "A Bossa Eterna," the word "bossa" has had multiple meanings in the vernacular. The word itself was already around when bossa nova came along. (Will have to see if one of my Brazilian friends can help a bit with background on this one.) Edited December 30, 2008 by seeline Quote
seeline Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Meanings of the word "bossa" I asked a Brazilian friend about this earlier today. the reply: Aptitude, talent, also charm, "it," "a certain something" It definitely is a relatively "old" term, but they're not sure just how old. (Obviously predates "bossa nova," though!) Quote
user0815 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 I asked a Brazilian friend about this earlier today. the reply: Aptitude, talent, also charm, "it," "a certain something" in other words: "each one she passes goes aaahhhh ... " regarding the elenco reissues (see the post by king ubu) ... i have about 7 of these albums ... my favs from this lot are the maysa (s/t) and the nara leao (nara), especially the nara album ... the maysa album also gets the prize for best cover art Quote
seeline Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) I asked a Brazilian friend about this earlier today. the reply: Aptitude, talent, also charm, "it," "a certain something" in other words: "each one she passes goes aaahhhh ... " Hard to say, since the original lyrics don't have a line like that. She's described as being graceful (etc.), but ...well. As with many other songs, the English lyrics are an approximation, not a even close to a word-for-word translation. Edited January 3, 2009 by seeline Quote
Noj Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 I'd heard that "bossa" translated to "style." So "bossa nova" merely means "new style." Although, I suppose "that certain something" does loosely amount to "style." Quote
seeline Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Meanings of the word "bossa" I asked a Brazilian friend about this earlier today. the reply: Aptitude, talent, also charm, "it," "a certain something" It definitely is a relatively "old" term, but they're not sure just how old. (Obviously predates "bossa nova," though!) Sorry for quoting myself, but.... I got the info. because of discussion on page 1 of this thread. (Confusion over an album title.) Edited January 3, 2009 by seeline Quote
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