CJ Shearn Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) http://chass.utoronto.ca/~chambers/tinabrooks.html apologies if this has been posted before, but this article is very interesting. The author seems to suggest that the majority of Brooks' albums being unreleased at the time was b/c of his addiction and Blue Note knew that so they kept the albums shelved. I don't buy that, b/c Hank had an addiction, and they released his stuff, not only that but the groups on Brooks' records are impressive. Something about Alfred Lion and Frank Wolff not caring about Brooks seems kind of strange to me. Edited December 23, 2008 by CJ Shearn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yes, I think we had a thread on it back when it first came out in Coda. Chambers can be a good writer at times, but I believe (and I think this was the general consensus ) that he missed the mark on this one. Rather superficial, actually. BTW, I couldn't find Lee's and Cuscuna's comments nor Chambers' reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Here's the previous thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...=0&p=371898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Shouldn't the thread title be - Who Killed Tina Brooks, CODA article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) I put this in the wrong, oops. I just read the other thread. Really, a whole lot of theories in the article are BS. I mean, when did Alfred or Frank ever sabotage talent? I can't think of any instances. edit: I guess Freddie Redd and Grachan Moncur according to Jim Sangrey. Edited December 23, 2008 by CJ Shearn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well....if you can believe Ronnie Boykins, Lion dropped Horace Parlan because Boykins insisted on keeping the publishing for one of his tunes on a Parlan date. I guess Parlan wouldn't intervene or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I can't think of any instances. edit: I guess Freddie Redd and Grachan Moncur according to Jim Sangrey. Not literally according to me, just according to my recounts of things that the two men in question have said, same as with the Boykin/Parlan story above, which, if memory serves, can be found in an old Coda magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 wow CODA ssems to have issued a lot of dirt. Not surprising Scott Yanow writes for them, given his penchant for dismissals of many sessions and musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 wow CODA ssems to have issued a lot of dirt. Not surprising Scott Yanow writes for them, given his penchant for dismissals of many sessions and musicians. Haven't seen too many articles or reviews by Yanow in recent editions of Coda. My appraisal of his work is quite the opposite. I tend to think he's too superficially un-critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Marathon runners have no time to take in the scenery. That also applies to a writer bent on writing and hearing it all. If you ask the runner to describe sights along his/her route, the response you get will be just as satisfactory as a Yanow review. I was not aware of his contributions to CODA. I hope that problem has been resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Art Blakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 It's easy in our ardor for the music to overlook the fact that these two guys were running a business. That being the case and as much as we'd like to think otherwise, it wasn't always about the music. They had a bottom line to attend to and while in retrospect, some of their decisions may seem to be short sighted or even biased, I'm sure they were making their calls in the context of what was best for their business. Does anyone really think that they would have sat on Tina Brooks' unreleased sessions if they thought they would sell well enough to justify their release? The fact that "True Blue" didn't do much probably justified their decision, at least in their minds, and that's all that really counts. Sure, we'd all like it if things had turned out differently and Brooks had been as prolific as a Hank Mobley or a Freddie Hubbard, but it wasn't to be. Bottom line, I think it's a mistake for anyone to draw conclusions fifty years after the fact especially when it involves decisions and justification for those decisions that we no way of knowing much about. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Art Blakey Blakey killed Tina brooks?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 He killed Bird, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 He killed Bird, didn't he? I hear he shot J.R. too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 And he shot the man in Reno, just to watch him die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 but he didn't kill the radio star; video did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Yanow was doing some reviewing for the magazine under Daryl Angier's editorship. I haven't seen the most recent issue or two--I no longer contribute to it, though I did send in a year-end top-ten anyway--but my recollection was that Yanow hadn't been seen in its pages for a while. Ken Dryden, Ken Waxman, & Kurt Gottschalk seemed to be some of the main contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Maybe you should change your first name to Knate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Maybe you should change your first name to Knate? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 He killed Bird, didn't he? I hear he shot J.R. too. Monterose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 He killed Bird, didn't he? I hear he shot J.R. too. Monterose? Yes. And it has never been possible to establish exactly where he was when Wardell's body was found in the desert. And who pushed Brew down those stairs? And who secretly put the bullets in the gun Maini had seen empty the day before? Someone didn't like saxophonists, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Barton Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Yanow was doing some reviewing for the magazine under Daryl Angier's editorship. I haven't seen the most recent issue or two--I no longer contribute to it, though I did send in a year-end top-ten anyway--but my recollection was that Yanow hadn't been seen in its pages for a while. Ken Dryden, Ken Waxman, & Kurt Gottschalk seemed to be some of the main contributors. Yes, it's been awhile since his byline has appeared. Kbill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Art Blakey Blakey killed Tina brooks?! No, his albums were kept off the market by Blue Note. That's why there's only two or three of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I'm late to the party, just read this article, and a dozen years later it's still a p.o.s. All conjecture, no facts, no journalism. He didn't bother interviewing any of Tina's siblings. Some, perhaps, are still living. Eight of them should've produced a few children of their own, who knew uncle Tina full well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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