7/4 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 Your name is more interesting to me than Jeff Beck, so please indulge me.......... http://www.amazon.com/Goldfinger-Various-A...5939&sr=1-2 You shoulda gone with "Pussy Galore's Flying Circus" instead. Catchy. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 I think that Jeff Beck can be very good in a sideman role, such as his solo on Buddy Guy's "Midnight Hour" on his "Damn Right I Got The Blues" album, and his contribution to Stevie Wonder's "Talking Book." Not all of the 1960s rock stars are able to fit in with someone's else's album. At the time that Charles Mingus recorded "Three or Four Shades of Blues", he made some negative comments about Beck's recording of "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" on "Wired". Can any of the musicians explain what there is about Beck's version which could lead to negative opinion? Quote
7/4 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 When he plays rockabilly. On Goodbye Pork Pie Hat? Quote
kh1958 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 I thought Mingus said that when he heard Jeff Beck doing Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, he heard the sound of money. Beck's version of Goodbye Pork Pie Hat on Wired or Blow by Blow (I forget) is pretty tepid next to the two recorded Mingus versions. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 I thought Mingus said that when he heard Jeff Beck doing Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, he heard the sound of money. Beck's version of Goodbye Pork Pie Hat on Wired or Blow by Blow (I forget) is pretty tepid next to the two recorded Mingus versions. I have heard Beck's version, which I think is on Wired. I wondered if there was something lacking in his interpretation from a technical, musical standpoint, such as not knowing the chords, or something like that, something which would bother a great musician like Mingus. Otherwise, I can't hear what is so very terrible about it, from my admittedly untrained ear. Quote
Sundog Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 Beck isn't a blues or a jazz player - it's all about rock and roll. If you think otherwise, you're confused. Of course he's a flashy show off - that's rock and roll. I've often thought more or less the same thing. See the quote below from the liner notes of the 2006 Legacy Edition reissue of Beck-Ola. "I'm proud we sounded that heavy, because that was my main aim: to blow every fucker off stage!" If that's not a rock 'n' roll mission statement I don't know what is. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 rOGER THE eNGINEER (esp'ly in mono with Happenings/Psyco Dszisies added, as some editions do) is a great album, despite the proto-Zep plagarism as songwriting and being an extreme quickie by rock standards. 1966 may have been the pinicle of western civilization - Studebaker dies and my wife is born, for starters, and the Scott family moves to Saskatoon, center of the known world. Roger is also a great play on words: noun, verb, whatever. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 In a perfect world, Jeff Beck would be in the Rock Hall of Fame as a sideman and Little Walter as a leader, but still... Quote
PHILLYQ Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) I went to see Jeff Beck last night and he rocked the house quite hard! Yes, he did display the incedible technique, but he played with a great amount of feeling and his band was SMOKIN!!! Tal Wilkenfeld was on bass and JB gave her plenty of solo room and you could hear why- she's an amazing player, truly gifted and plays like someone who's been playing bass for a very long time. On some of the really knotty passages she was even doubling JB's line on bass. Vinnie Colaiuta was on drums, and he's not my favorite drummer but he fits this band very well. Jason Rebello was on keys and he did get one extended solo where JB laid out and he played some straight ahead jazz, with Tal swinging on electric bass. On a couple of tunes JB quoted Hendrix, '3rd Stone from the Sun' & 'Puple Haze'. There was a wicked version of 'Peter Gunn'! On one of the ballads JB played it so beautifully that he hit a pause and the crowd gasped. I don't usually do this at concerts, but JB actually brought me to tears, and then I looked at a woman next to me and she was also wiping away tears. Great, great concert Edited April 10, 2009 by PHILLYQ Quote
Shawn Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 I don't understand how people can downplay Beck's talent. Especially his TONE...no other guitarist sounds like him. Period. Quote
Enterprise Server Posted April 12, 2009 Report Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) I don't understand how people can downplay Beck's talent. Especially his TONE...no other guitarist sounds like him. Period. Not a major fan of his but the man can play! Edited April 12, 2009 by Enterprise Server Quote
7/4 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I don't understand how people can downplay Beck's talent. Especially his TONE...no other guitarist sounds like him. Period. Power amp distortion (instead of pre-amp distortion). db Quote
Shawn Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I don't understand how people can downplay Beck's talent. Especially his TONE...no other guitarist sounds like him. Period. Power amp distortion (instead of pre-amp distortion). db I think it's more in his fingers, his touch. Quote
7/4 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I don't understand how people can downplay Beck's talent. Especially his TONE...no other guitarist sounds like him. Period. Power amp distortion (instead of pre-amp distortion). db I think it's more in his fingers, his touch. Then that's his phrasing, not his tone. (or maybe I have the terms mixed up). Quote
Shawn Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 Then that's his phrasing, not his tone. (or maybe I have the terms mixed up). You're correct, what I was trying to get across was his overall "sound", which is a combination of the electronics+how he plays. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I went to see Jeff Beck last night and he rocked the house quite hard! Yes, he did display the incedible technique, but he played with a great amount of feeling and his band was SMOKIN!!! Tal Wilkenfeld was on bass and JB gave her plenty of solo room and you could hear why- she's an amazing player, truly gifted and plays like someone who's been playing bass for a very long time. On some of the really knotty passages she was even doubling JB's line on bass. Vinnie Colaiuta was on drums, and he's not my favorite drummer but he fits this band very well. Jason Rebello was on keys and he did get one extended solo where JB laid out and he played some straight ahead jazz, with Tal swinging on electric bass. On a couple of tunes JB quoted Hendrix, '3rd Stone from the Sun' & 'Puple Haze'. There was a wicked version of 'Peter Gunn'! On one of the ballads JB played it so beautifully that he hit a pause and the crowd gasped. I don't usually do this at concerts, but JB actually brought me to tears, and then I looked at a woman next to me and she was also wiping away tears. Great, great concert Tell us about his hair. Has he changed it? Quote
7/4 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 On one of the ballads JB played it so beautifully that he hit a pause and the crowd gasped. I don't usually do this at concerts, but JB actually brought me to tears, and then I looked at a woman next to me and she was also wiping away tears. Great, great concert Tell us about his hair. Has he changed it? No. This also brings tears to my eyes. Quote
PHILLYQ Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I went to see Jeff Beck last night and he rocked the house quite hard! Yes, he did display the incedible technique, but he played with a great amount of feeling and his band was SMOKIN!!! Tal Wilkenfeld was on bass and JB gave her plenty of solo room and you could hear why- she's an amazing player, truly gifted and plays like someone who's been playing bass for a very long time. On some of the really knotty passages she was even doubling JB's line on bass. Vinnie Colaiuta was on drums, and he's not my favorite drummer but he fits this band very well. Jason Rebello was on keys and he did get one extended solo where JB laid out and he played some straight ahead jazz, with Tal swinging on electric bass. On a couple of tunes JB quoted Hendrix, '3rd Stone from the Sun' & 'Puple Haze'. There was a wicked version of 'Peter Gunn'! On one of the ballads JB played it so beautifully that he hit a pause and the crowd gasped. I don't usually do this at concerts, but JB actually brought me to tears, and then I looked at a woman next to me and she was also wiping away tears. Great, great concert Tell us about his hair. Has he changed it? It's as black as it was in 1969, same style. Guitar playing is different. Quote
7/4 Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 Then that's his phrasing, not his tone. (or maybe I have the terms mixed up). You're correct, what I was trying to get across was his overall "sound", which is a combination of the electronics+how he plays. There's a lot of video from the last ten years showing his hands playing (and I've watched a lot at shows) where you can see how much he uses the wammy bar. I'm not saying he owes all his magic to it, but there's no doubt he's a Stratocaster man. Quote
BFrank Posted April 13, 2009 Report Posted April 13, 2009 I went to see Jeff Beck last night and he rocked the house quite hard! Yes, he did display the incedible technique, but he played with a great amount of feeling and his band was SMOKIN!!! Tal Wilkenfeld was on bass and JB gave her plenty of solo room and you could hear why- she's an amazing player, truly gifted and plays like someone who's been playing bass for a very long time. On some of the really knotty passages she was even doubling JB's line on bass. Vinnie Colaiuta was on drums, and he's not my favorite drummer but he fits this band very well. Jason Rebello was on keys and he did get one extended solo where JB laid out and he played some straight ahead jazz, with Tal swinging on electric bass. On a couple of tunes JB quoted Hendrix, '3rd Stone from the Sun' & 'Puple Haze'. There was a wicked version of 'Peter Gunn'! On one of the ballads JB played it so beautifully that he hit a pause and the crowd gasped. I don't usually do this at concerts, but JB actually brought me to tears, and then I looked at a woman next to me and she was also wiping away tears. Great, great concert Tell us about his hair. Has he changed it? It was interesting comparing the hair of Beck and Page at the RRHoF show. My guess is that Jeff's would be as white as Jimmy's (if he would let it). Quote
PHILLYQ Posted April 24, 2009 Report Posted April 24, 2009 Is it me or is Stewart's voice really shot? He sounded rather weak to my ears. Quote
mr jazz Posted April 25, 2009 Report Posted April 25, 2009 Is it me or is Stewart's voice really shot? He sounded rather weak to my ears. Stewart really butchered some classic songs on those god awful standards releases. Of course, they sold millions of copies. Quote
7/4 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Posted February 1, 2010 I see Jeff Beck won a Grammy for his live recording of A Day In The Life. Les Paul Tribute with Imelda May: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdcUvhq_3do Quote
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