Fake Live Albums

[Teasing the Korean]

My recent thread about the Peggy Lee/George Shearing "Beauty and the Beat" inspired this thread.

What are some of the fake "live" albums that have been released?

I don't mean rock albums recorded on 24-tracks where they added a horn section later in the studio.

I mean studio dates passed off as live dates.

1. Beauty and the Beat - Peggy Lee/George Shearing (Capitol).

2. - and correct me if I'm wrong - Machito at the Crescendo (GNP).

Let's hear more...

[Christiern]

John Hammond's intros were added to the original release of the From Spirituals to Swing concert.

[Chuck Nessa]

John Hammond's intros were added to the original release of the From Spirituals to Swing concert.

and some of it was recorded in a studio.

Great stuff anyway.

[kh1958]

Jonah Jones at the Embers.

I guess only the title is fake, since there is no fake applause.

Edited November 15, 2008 by kh1958

[Chas]

J.J. Johnson In Person on Columbia

Cannonball Adderley Mercy , Mercy , Mercy on Capitol ( studio audience )

Joe Daley Trio At Newport '63 on RCA ( half-studio , half-live )

[GA Russell]

I have read that Cannonball's Mercy, Mercy, Mercy album was not as advertised. I don't recall if it was recorded in front of a few people in the studio (which I think is what happened), or if it was recorded in another club.

[Rooster_Ties]

This one has to be fake -- or it sure sounds like it -- can anyone confirm??

Benny Bailey, Nathan Davis, Mal Waldron, & Others -- Soul Eyes - Jazz Live At The Domicile Munich

Even the photo on the cover looks like a composite (is that the original cover?)

SPECTACULAR music, though (especially Benny Bailey). Well worth the import price I paid for it at Dusty.

[Teasing the Korean]

Slightly off topic, but very funny:

The Yardbirds' last concert was briefly available on an Epic LP.

They beefed up the crowd noise with, among other things, cheers from bullfights and cocktail lounge sounds!

[Christiern]

In 1953, I recorded Monty Sunshine, Chris Barber and Lonnie Donegan in a bathroom. Imagine my surprise when I heard it on a concert album with what sounded like a highly receptive capacity crowd.

[Chuck Nessa]

Large bathroom.

[Johnny E]

Art Blakey's A Night at Birdland was actually recorded on minidisc in the shed in Chuck's back yard.

[Teasing the Korean]

Were the "live" Art Tatum albums on GNP real or fake?

[Chuck Nessa]

Were the "live" Art Tatum albums on GNP real or fake?

They are the Standard transcriptions with noise added.

[Teasing the Korean]

Ellington at Newport '58 was studio, right? The LP I mean, not the CD.

[medjuck]

As were parts of Ellington at Newport '56.

[Larry Kart]

This is the real "Peggy Lee at Basin Street East" show:

http://www.peggylee.com/new/0206_basin_cc.html

Don't remember the details, but the originally released album was, I think, a blend of some club performances and some studio takes with crowd sounds added, because the some things went awry in the recording process that night. The liner notes to the album linked to above tell the whole story.

[Teasing the Korean]

As were parts of Ellington at Newport '56.

I think that's the one I meant. The one with the off-mic solo for 29 choruses or whatever?

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

if u want a huge list of these, consult the steve hofmann forums, there is a sizeable list over there...can someone say Frampton Comes Alive? lol

[Teasing the Korean]

if u want a huge list of these, consult the steve hofmann forums, there is a sizeable list over there...can someone say Frampton Comes Alive? lol

I'm really more interested in non-rock albums, although I'm guilty of the Yardbirds post in this thread.

I don't think the Hoffmann forums even knew about jazz until those overpriced Blue Note 45s LOL!

[Christiern]

Large bathroom.

We did it in the home of Henrik Johansen, a clarinetist whose father manufactured toilets, sinks, etc. So, yes, it was big. Chris Barber was playing an upright bass and, if I remember correctly, there was room for a pony.

[Jim Alfredson]

Cheap Trick - Live At Buddhakhan

Oh the humanity!

Jazz related, that McDuff Live album on Prestige is pretty bad (as far as the editing they did in order to make it appear like it was really "live", that is).

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

The McDuff is a definite. The original recording in the Front Room was duff, so they did it in the studio.

B B King Live - Crown (well, what do you expect?) Has original studio singles with overdubbed, and very enthusiastic, crowd noises.

I THINK I have heard that one of the James Brown Apollo recordings has a fake audience. I don't think it was the first one, though (but I could be wrong about that).

It sounds to me as if Piano Red's "Underground Atlanta" (King) has an over dubbed audience, but I've never heard anyone say it's really a fake.

There are a few occasions, like the Adderley "Mercy, mercy, mercy" album, where an album was recorded in the studio, with an invited audience.

Cannonball Adderley & Ernie Andrews - Live session - Capitol

Cannonball Adderley (again!) - Why am I treated so bad? - Capitol

Della Reese Live - ABC

B B King & Bobby Bland - Toether for the first time... live - ABC

B B King & Bobby Bland - Toether again... live - ABC

That's all I can think of - too early in the morning - my brain's gone funny.

MG

[JohnS]

These two I believe. Please correct me if wrong.

Martial Solal at Newport

Hal McKusick; Jazz at the Academy

[BillF]

From Phil Schaap's liner note to the Verve CD of Stan Getz and J J Johnson at the Opera House: "About half the music issued as 'Jazz at the Opera House' was performed elsewhere".

[Rosco]

From Phil Schaap's liner note to the Verve CD of Stan Getz and J J Johnson at the Opera House: "About half the music issued as 'Jazz at the Opera House' was performed elsewhere".

I thought that the stereo version of the album was recorded at the Opera House in Chicago, while the mono version was from the Shrine, L.A.

Oscar Peterson's At The Concertgebouw was nothing of the sort- that was recorded at the Opera House (and the CD adds tracks from the Shrine).

Not fake live albums, of course, but not 'as advertised'.

Wasn't there some fakery with the live Getz/ Gilberto album?