Aggie87 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 That Jethro Tull album title is really something. Is there a song on the album with that title too, and what are the lyrics? "Too Old To Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young To Die" The old Rocker wore his hair too long, wore his trouser cuffs too tight. Unfashionable to the end --- drank his ale too light. Death's head belt buckle --- yesterday's dreams --- the transport caf' prophet of doom. Ringing no change in his double-sewn seams in his post-war-babe gloom. Now he's too old to Rock'n'Roll but he's too young to die. He once owned a Harley Davidson and a Triumph Bonneville. Counted his friends in burned-out spark plugs and prays that he always will. But he's the last of the blue blood greaser boys all of his mates are doing time: married with three kids up by the ring road sold their souls straight down the line. And some of them own little sports cars and meet at the tennis club do's. For drinks on a Sunday --- work on Monday. They've thrown away their blue suede shoes. Now they're too old to Rock'n'Roll and they're too young to die. So the old Rocker gets out his bike to make a ton before he takes his leave. Up on the A1 by Scotch Corner just like it used to be. And as he flies --- tears in his eyes --- his wind-whipped words echo the final take and he hits the trunk road doing around 120 with no room left to brake. And he was too old to Rock'n'Roll but he was too young to die. No, you're never too old to Rock'n'Roll if you're too young to die. Quote
jostber Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I think those lyrics are pretty cool. Quote
jostber Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Can a too cool hairdo distract from the musical themes on these? Quote
Big Al Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Posted November 13, 2008 This record truly, TRULY, sucks, as do most (aw hell, I'm on a roll, let's just make it ALL) Foreigner records)... I don't completely agree with that; I thought that their first LP had serious possibilities. I remember at the time thinking they could go one of two ways, either interesting and quirky pop, or boring dinosaur rock. Obviously, they didn't agree with me on the appropriate direction... Give me Free over Bad Company any day! And, being a Mott the Hoople fanatic, I wanted to like them so much. What a boring let down. I'd have to say stadium concerts did serious damage to the artform. I always sort of considered him to simply be the American answer to solo Paul McCartney. Well, that's just insulting. As soon as I figure out which of the two should feel insulted, I'll get back to you... Good heavens, man! Three straight hilarious posts at 2:30 in the morning??? I wish I had that kind of stamina! Quote
Big Al Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Posted November 13, 2008 I actually like this album, despite Page's relative MIA status. I agree, although it's far from a favorite, and I can see where jazzmoose is coming from. It pretty much solidified the punks' stance against the "boring old farts." Quote
BruceH Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 by the way I can't stand Stevie Wonder - corny music, corny lyrics, annoying singing. blech Even Talking Book, man???? Quote
BruceH Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Give me Free over Bad Company any day! And, being a Mott the Hoople fanatic, I wanted to like them so much. What a boring let down. I'd have to say stadium concerts did serious damage to the artform. And to stadiums. Quote
BruceH Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) This record truly, TRULY, sucks, as do most (aw hell, I'm on a roll, let's just make it ALL) Foreigner records)... I don't completely agree with that; I thought that their first LP had serious possibilities. I remember at the time thinking they could go one of two ways, either interesting and quirky pop, or boring dinosaur rock. Obviously, they didn't agree with me on the appropriate direction... They kind of taught me what boring dinosaur rock WAS (by example.) Edited November 15, 2008 by BruceH Quote
BruceH Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 One of the worst offenders, in my book, is Jimmy Buffet. His lyrics are so insipid it's embarrassing. And all the parrot heads singing along rapturously only make it all the more unbearable. truer words have never been spoken Yeah, he's on the album AND in the movie. I didn't want to mention it. Make of that what you will. And he's very probably the richest person from the album. Make of THAT what you will. Quote
BruceH Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I really think it's unfair to give the title of 'worst ever' to a compilation album, and in particular, a rock music movie album (the competition is too fierce in that genre to pick just one winner anyway!); I would prefer to give the award to excellent bands who, either by hanging on too long, or just by accident, produce such an incredibly bad LP that, momentarily, you have to question whether or not they were as good as you thought they were. Excellent point, and I agree. Except, perhaps for "momentarily." Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 You can probably blame the "massive drum sound" on the success of live albums in the mid-70's like Frampton Comes Alive, Kiss Alive, Live & Dangerous, etc. I think engineers started to try and emulate the "stadium sound" on their studio recordings. I recall reading an interview with Bill Bruford a while back where he maintained that the shifting of rock into large halls and stadiums meant that any subtlty in drumming just got lost in the acoustics. You had to hammer out a beat to hold the music together. Of course, once people had thrilled to that in a stadium they wanted it on a record. A good illustration of what I find hard to take is Eric Clapton's "Journeyman" from the late 80s/early 90s. There's that whole wall-of-sound approach where every space is filled in (usually with an anodyne synth wash) and the beat is punched out. Some of those songs turned up on the 'Unplugged' album, a record that I love. The music breaths again. ********* The mention of Queen here is interesting. Not a group I ever cared for. But I'd hazzard a guess that, alongside Abba, they are the most listened to oldies band by younger people - moreso, I'd suggest than The Beatles. I don't know how many staff socials I've been on which end with drunken younger colleagues gathering together to sing 'Bohemian Rhapsody' or 'Dancing Queen' word perfect. I've never plucked up the courage to ask if anyone knows anything off the first Soft Machine album. Quote
jostber Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 But these "Smart Girls" lyrics are a bit dubious: http://www.stanhasissues.com/archives/2007...worst_song.html Quote
papsrus Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 One of the worst offenders, in my book, is Jimmy Buffet. His lyrics are so insipid it's embarrassing. And all the parrot heads singing along rapturously only make it all the more unbearable. truer words have never been spoken Yeah, he's on the album AND in the movie. I didn't want to mention it. Make of that what you will. And he's very probably the richest person from the album. Make of THAT what you will. Oh yeah, he's wealthy. Don't let the frayed cutoffs and straw hats that he puts on backstage fool ya. His restaurant chain and merchandising of the whole Key West image thing is a cash cow, I'm sure. He's completely Disney-fied. And he's managed to do this on the back of simply awful and formulaic music. He's a sharp business man though, I'll give him that. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) I've never heard of Jimmy Buffet!!!! Would I be right in thinking that I should not be ordering the Mosaic? Edited November 13, 2008 by Bev Stapleton Quote
paul secor Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I've never heard of Jimmy Buffet!!!! Just be glad you've never heard him, let alone heard of him. Quote
jostber Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I would advise to avoid Creed too. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-con...eed-118982.html That forum gives the word strange a new meaning. I though anabolic steroids were illegal? Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I've never heard of Jimmy Buffet!!!! Would I be right in thinking that I should not be ordering the Mosaic? I've heard of him. He's had endless hit albums in America. I've never heard him but, from a glance at some of the titles of his songs, I guess he's a satirist (whether intentional or not I don't know). But titles like "Desperation samba (Halloween in Tijuana)"; "Elvis imitators"; "Cultural infidel"; and "Perrier blues" do suggest something like that to me. But I've seen a photo of him wearing a Jack McDuff type of sailor's hat, which doesn't go well with satire (or not obviously). Can someone start a trhead about this mystry man, whose records have probably never been released in Britain? MG Quote
Aggie87 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 He plays a vague blend of country/tropical/caribbean music that is very simplistic, designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, mainly when people are gathered to drink. That's really about all one needs to know, I think. Quote
jostber Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Some cool song titles here: http://www.downstream.sk.ca/country1.htm Quote
papsrus Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I've never heard of Jimmy Buffet!!!! Would I be right in thinking that I should not be ordering the Mosaic? I've heard of him. He's had endless hit albums in America. I've never heard him but, from a glance at some of the titles of his songs, I guess he's a satirist (whether intentional or not I don't know). But titles like "Desperation samba (Halloween in Tijuana)"; "Elvis imitators"; "Cultural infidel"; and "Perrier blues" do suggest something like that to me. But I've seen a photo of him wearing a Jack McDuff type of sailor's hat, which doesn't go well with satire (or not obviously). Can someone start a trhead about this mystry man, whose records have probably never been released in Britain? MG Oh no. ... What have I done?! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 He plays a vague blend of country/tropical/caribbean music that is very simplistic, designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, mainly when people are gathered to drink. That's really about all one needs to know, I think. So why does he have those satirical-looking song titles? MG Quote
JSngry Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 He plays a vague blend of country/tropical/caribbean music that is very simplistic, designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, mainly when people are gathered to drink. That's really about all one needs to know, I think. So why does he have those satirical-looking song titles? MG Because he's "clever". Ya' know, when he first hit the scene he was cool for a few minutes. It was droll and wry, and yes, "clever". I mean, how do you not get a kick out of an album called "A White Sport Coat & A Pink Crustacean"? At least, that is, until the same type joke gets told over and over and over without any variance whatsoever and self-parody and self-caricature are warmly embraced and cashed in upon... Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 to hear the irrepressible jimmy smith playing in handcuffs with organ and drums recorded on the left coast and a bunch of string arrangements recorded on the right coast playing a platter full of afterhours ballads is more than i can bear. this album is more depressing than most funerals. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 [i mean, how do you not get a kick out of an album called "A White Sport Coat & A Pink Crustacean"? I'll confess, I bought it. And enjoyed it. I just didn't sign on for the thirty year cruise... Quote
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