Top Ten Black Saint/Soul Note

[randyhersom]

eMusic announced "A jazz motherlode will arrive 11/18" and it's likely to be Black Saint/Soul Note. So let's have some top ten Black Saint/Soul Note lists to get our engines running. I have very few, but the very first Black Saint, Billy Harper - Black Saint would certainly top my list. The David Murray's are all already available on eMusic, but that's no reason to exclude them.

[randyhersom]

The rest of my top ten is really a wish lsit

Air - Live Air

Air - Air Mail

Geri Allen - Etudes

Ran Blake - Short Life of Barbara Monk

Walt Dickerson - Life Rays (already have and love)

6 titles by Jimmy Lyons

5 titles by Andrew Hill

16 titles by Mal Waldron

[clifford_thornton]

I like the Trio Hurricane - Suite of Winds disc.

Of course, any Bill Dixon will be stupendous, but really who wants to listen to that on their computer?

[RDK]

I like the Trio Hurricane - Suite of Winds disc.

Of course, any Bill Dixon will be stupendous, but really who wants to listen to that on their computer?

One needn't listen on computer speakers. I find emusic's mp3s more than acceptable for the cost. And in the case of BS/SN discs, I can barely find/buy them at any price.

[AndrewHill]

Trying to come up with some different titles than the already excellent recs above:

George Lewis-Shadowgraph Five (Sextet)-BS

William Parker-In Order to Survive-BS

Steve Lacy Sextet-Troubles-BS

The Andrew Cyrille Trio-Good to Go-A Tribut to Bu-SN

Anthony Braxton-4 (Ensemble) Compositions 1992-BS

Sun Ra Arkestra-Hours After-BS

Henry Threadgill Very Very Circus-Spirit of 'Nuf 'Nuf-BS

John Lindberg Ensemble-The Catbird Sings-BS

Beaver Harris 360 Degree Music Experience-Beautiful Africa-SN

Steve Lacy Sextet-The Condor-SN

[AndrewHill]

Honorable mention for What We Live: Trumpets as there is some very fine playing by Leo Smith and Dave Douglas.

[Guest Bill Barton]

I'd add Pieces of Time, the remarkable collaboration between Kenny Clarke, Milford Graves, Famoudou Don Moye and Andrew Cyrille to that list. But then, I'm a percussionholic...

There are so many. I'll have to think on it.

[captainwrong]

I like the Trio Hurricane - Suite of Winds disc.

Of course, any Bill Dixon will be stupendous, but really who wants to listen to that on their computer?

One needn't listen on computer speakers. I find emusic's mp3s more than acceptable for the cost. And in the case of BS/SN discs, I can barely find/buy them at any price.

Same here. I'm really hoping this is the surprise for this reason.

My recommendations: the Tim Berne tiles, Julius Hemphill - Fat Man and the Hard Blues, all the World Saxophone Quartet albums, Pieces of Time...

Whew. There's a ton of good stuff.

[JohnS]

Lots to chose from but don't overlook JOHN JANG: TWO FLOWERS ON A STEM (Soul Note)

[Guest Bill Barton]

Lots to chose from but don't overlook JOHN JANG: TWO FLOWERS ON A STEM (Soul Note)

+ Jang's Self Defense! with the Pan-Asian Arkestra...

[king ubu]

I still don't own more than 20 or so Black Saint titles, but I thought this one here was great:

[paul secor]

Hard to pick ten - could easily choose fifty. But here are ten that haven't been mentioned:

Andrew Cyrille/Jimmy Lyons/Jeanne Lee: Nuba

Anthony Braxton: Six Monk Compositions

George Lewis: Homage to Charles Parker

John Lindberg/George Lewis/Barry Altschul: Give and Take

Marcello Melis: New Village on the Left

Muhal Richard Abrams/Malachi Favors: Sightsong

Bill Dixon: November 1981

Cecil Taylor: Olu Iwa

Ray Anderson: Right Down Your Alley

Julius Hemphill: Raw Materials and Residuals

[randyhersom]

Perusing the online catalog I see that I already own and enjoy George Adams - Hand To Hand and Muhal Richard Abrams - The Hearinga Suite. Has anybody heard the Jeff Palmers?

Edited November 5, 2008 by randyhersom

[paul secor]

Previous thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...hl=black++saint

There sure was a lot of great stuff being issued in the 70's and 80's.

[Hot Ptah]

Muhal Richard Abrams--The Hearinga Suite

--Blues Forever

--Mama and Daddy

--Blu Blu Blu Blu Blu

[randyhersom]

Looking forward to

Ed Blackwell - Walls Bridges

Dewey Redman plays Take The A Train is something I've got to hear.

Larry Ochs and Drumming Core - The Neon Truth

The old BN board had a long interesting and slightly egotistical top 10 post and this was #1, been curious ever since.

Cyrille, Lee, Lyons - Nuba

[randyhersom]

A couple of interesting sideman names:

Middy Middleton is on a couple of Odean Pope Saxophone Choir albums. I hadn't heard that name since the mid 70s at WRTI where we had a tape of Up From the Cellar, Down From the Attic, his great band with Michael Ray.

James Carter and Carl Grubbs pop up on Julius Hemphill dates.

Jay Hoggard on a Chico Freeman Quartet date.

[A Lark Ascending]

Some excellent Italian jazz too - Gianluigi Trovesi, Guido Manusardi, Tiziano Tononi, Giorgio Gaslini and others.

I wondered if this might happen given that Camjazz have acquired BS/SN and that Camjazz's titles go straight to e-music.

Edited November 5, 2008 by Bev Stapleton

[jlhoots]

Dutch Masters

[Joe]

Some favorites not yet mentioned...

• Lacy / Rudd, REGENERATION
  
• Billy Bang, VALVE NO. 10
  
• Frank Lowe, EXOTIC HEARTBREAK
  
• Leroy Jenkins Sting!, URBAN BLUES
  
• Guido Manusardi, THE VILLAGE FAIR
  
• Roscoe Mitchell, 3 X 4 EYE
  
• Andrew Cyrille, X-MAN
  
• Baikida Carroll, SHADOWS AND REFLECTIONS
  
• John Lindberg, QUARTET AFTERSTORM
  
• Barry Altschul, IRINA
  

Edited November 6, 2008 by Joe

[Spontooneous]

A second for "Regeneration" and the Muhal Richard Abrams recs of Hot Ptah.

Julius Hemphill, Fat Man and the Hard Blues

Billy Harper in Europe

Steve Lacy, Vespers

Roscoe Mitchell and the Sound and Space Ensembles

Don Pullen/Sam Rivers, Capricorn Rising

Max Roach, Survivors

Andrew Hill, Shades

[WorldB3]

I don't have a lot of Soul Note but I highly recomend Transit by Karl Berger w/ Dave Holland and Ed Blackwell.

If it hits Emusic I will be glad to have in MP3 format.

[clifford_thornton]

That is a good one.

Abrams' 1-OQA+19 is really nice too, was just giving that a long overdue spin today. "Charlie in the Parker" reminds me of Ra... even though I *know* the AACM-Ra link is spurious.

[Guest Bill Barton]

...Has anybody heard the Jeff Palmers?

I have Island Universe. It's a fine recording although I probably wouldn't put it up in the rarefied "tops" as far as Black Saint/Soul Note in general goes.

Birth and Rebirth, the Max Roach/Anthony Braxton duo recording, is brilliant. That's one more that I would classify as essential.

[Chuck Nessa]

All the Muhal's are worthy. I wish I had all of them.