Joe Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) Raise your fists for... King Diamond! Edited October 30, 2003 by Joe Quote
Joe Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) Edited October 30, 2003 by Joe Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Posted October 30, 2003 I'm surprised no-one's mentioned King Edward II. For those with little knowledge of English history his demise was so painful it inspired the name of a traditional English folk-reggae band..."Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas"* Think about it! (*sadly they truncated their name to "Edward II"...and more recently to "EIIK") Quote
jacman Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 For those with little knowledge of English history his demise was so painful it inspired the name of a traditional English folk-reggae band..."Edward II and the Red Hot Polkas"* Think about it! i did think about it...That's gonna leave a mark. Quote
BruceH Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 But I thought Mervyn Le Roy directed The Wizard of Oz... Victor Fleming was the original director, King Vidor finished the last month or so (from what i've read), but i'm not sure why. Mervyn LeRoy was the producer. I stand corrected. Guess 1939 was the year for changing directors on films, a la "Gone With the Wind." Quote
Christiern Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Elizabeth and Victoria were queens, not kings. So was at least one of the Swedish kings! Old Gustav, I believe. Quote
brownie Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Elizabeth and Victoria were queens, not kings. So was at least one of the Swedish kings!Old Gustav, I believe. So was King Henri III of France who was often seen wearing women's clothes! Quote
EKE BBB Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 My vote went for King Oliver... but had he been, I´d have voted for King Juan Carlos I de España, of course!!! Quote
Aggie87 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 The more I think about it (and the celery thing notwithstanding), my vote goes for the Sun King, Louis XIV. He reigned for 72 years (!), and turned France into one of the most powerful countries in the world. Probably set the stage for the French Revolution as well... He gets props for Versailles alone, if nothing else. 10,000 people lived at the palace in his day. Pictures don't really do it justice. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) The more I think about it (and the celery thing notwithstanding), my vote goes for the Sun King, Louis XIV. He reigned for 72 years (!), and turned France into one of the most powerful countries in the world. Probably set the stage for the French Revolution as well... It could be argued that he inherited one of the most powerful countries in the world thanks to the work of Richelieu and Mazarin and the inherent wealth of Europe's most populous nation. He used that for a mere 25 years to expand the borders slightly. After that it was all downhill. His last 15 years were marked by constant military defeat (apart from a last minute face-saving goal at Denain), economic stagnation, dreadful harvest failures and serious social unrest. And Versailles was a cold and miserable place as a consequence! Had the coalition sorted out its differences and put its mind to the job France would have been at least partially occupied sometime between 1704 and 1712 (it was invaded). He did, on the other hand, have some very good spin doctors. Try 'The Fabrication of Louis XIV' by Peter Burke, 1992. I could take you up on the French Revolution but that would take all day... Edited October 30, 2003 by Bev Stapleton Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Posted October 30, 2003 Elizabeth and Victoria were queens, not kings. So was at least one of the Swedish kings!Old Gustav, I believe. For a moment I thought you were referring to Christina. Tell me more about 'old Gustav.' Quote
Aggie87 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Bev - You clearly now French history far better than I do, so I won't challenge what you're saying. I agree that Mazarin wielded LARGE influence on his early years (even "donated" his niece to Louis), but that makes sense to a degree, since Louis ascended to the throne when he was 4 years old. And I'll certainly agree that his later years were marked by military defeats. The Revolution comment was conjecture on my part. I wish I had paid better attention during my history lessons... -Erik Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 30, 2003 Author Report Posted October 30, 2003 (edited) Erik, Like arguments about who matters most in jazz, squabbles over what really happened in history go round in endless circles. And no-one's right! That's where the fun is. [On the Revolution there are a million and one interpretations - popular history views Louis XIV creating a regime that had so many internal contradictions that revolution was inevitable. I tend to be more convinced by the view that the revolution happened through the particular failure of Louis XVI and his ministers to deal with the stresses of the 1780s rather than any deep seated inevitability.] Edited October 30, 2003 by Bev Stapleton Quote
king ubu Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Ain't that Speer's Berlin Reichskanzlei? Quote
king ubu Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 What about King Ubu Cool! Hell, I only saw that thread today. I vote for King Ubu because, he, roi des polonais, is nowadays the true winner of the war in iraq (as polish writer Andrej Stasiuk said in the german newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung some months ago). He prevents Sadam from stealing all those beautiful blonde polonaises... B) Another personal favorite: King Bumibol (of Thailand, sp?). He jammed with Benny Goodman. The only jazz-addict king known to me. Bev, how's that Peter Burke book? I read some of his stuff, but not this one. Have you read that little book by Robert Darnton (in german it was called "Poesie und Polizei", I would have to look up the original title) on those nice poems about Mme Poisson etc? ubu Quote
king ubu Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 uh, and, generally, I'm more on the side of the Saints than the Kings... or rather: on the side of what the Saints had to say about Kings (such as Saint-Just) ubu Quote
king ubu Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Not a king exactly, but possibly future queen... (the spanish Royals have confirmed the marriage of her - Letizia Ortiz is her name - and heir to the throne, prince Felipe) ubu Quote
king ubu Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 but there seems to be something with her nose... maybe the wedding has to be postponed until after some surgery? ubu Quote
randissimo Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 but there seems to be something with her nose... maybe the wedding has to be postponed until after some surgery? ubu Looks like the start of another "babe thread" to me.. She's a fox!! Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted November 3, 2003 Author Report Posted November 3, 2003 Wouldn't that be a vixen? Quote
Joe G Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 "The original king of r&b", according to Whitney... Quote
king ubu Posted November 24, 2003 Report Posted November 24, 2003 juck, deus! up with some kings! the king decided it was time for some more nice small talk on kings.... Bev, up with my question on the Peter Burke book on Louis XIV! (See my post a little bit further above, before my unforgiveable society talk digression...) ubu Quote
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