Rooster_Ties Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 (edited) Was just listening to the Andrew Hill BN discs with John Gilmore (Andrew!!! and Compulsion), and thought that this might make for an interesting topic. Anybody that ever recorded with Sun Ra is fair game - so that's a TON of people to consider. So... What are the best or most interesting recordings (either as leaders or as sidemen) that included people who played with Sun Ra. Edited October 23, 2003 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 I have always loved Charles Davis on the Elvin Jones/Jimmy Garrison Sextet album "Illumination." That sho some agile bari playing. Another John Gilmore fan here - he tears it up on Pete LaRoca Sims' Women at a Turkish Bath album. I like that date for the whole ensemble. [Certainly not for the fidelity.] Chick Corea is on it as well. They play in ways not usually found on records of the same era, with these wonderful ostinatos and free-ish passages. I have enjoyed Booker Little's "Out Front" more than once. Julian Preister is on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Does Sun Ra himself count, too? If so, my choice would be that Dickerson date recently reissued in the VEE series! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Another John Gilmore fan here - he tears it up on Pete LaRoca Sims' Women at a Turkish Bath album. I like that date for the whole ensemble. [Certainly not for the fidelity.] Chick Corea is on it as well. They play in ways not usually found on records of the same era, with these wonderful ostinatos and free-ish passages. HELLYEAH! That was one of my first 32jazz discs, and still among my favorites! Out Front is a great record, too - as might be almost any record where Julian Priester shows up. How about the Hancock Mwandishi band? Charles Davis' also great on Hank Mobley & Cedar Walton's Breakthrough. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 No one favorite, but Gilmore on Paul Bley's TURNING POINT makes a great record essential imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 (edited) The list for me would have to include the two very fine Julian Priester ECMs 'Love, Love' and 'Polarisation', in addition to the previously mentioned 'Turkish Women at the Bath' on Douglas (also issued as 'Bliss' under Chick Corea's name for Muse, I believe) where Gilmore is in fine form. Also that 'Batman' date for Tifton where Ra and the boys were all sidemen for the 'Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale' ie. the Blues Project. I have a very soft spot for this one even though it's hardly their finest hour musically ! Edited October 23, 2003 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Gilmore with Blakey, each and ever time he was recorded with Blakey. Ronnie Boykins ESP lp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 I also like Gilmore with Blakey. He is fantastic on the Freddie Hubbard Impulse album "The Body And The Soul"; there, he plays some very terse solos that are quite brilliant. As has often been said, tenor players are usually long-winded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ariceffron Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 does anyone know sun ras batman and robin cd. it is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Sidewinder mentions it above Aric. I have it. . .but am not entirely convinced there are too many Raites on board, and it's not that great a session in my opinion. . . but cool to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted October 23, 2003 Report Share Posted October 23, 2003 Does Sun Ra himself count, too? If so, my choice would be that Dickerson date recently reissued in the VEE series! ubu I love that Walt Dickerson record too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 (edited) Also that 'Batman' date for Tifton where Ra and the boys were all sidemen for the 'Sensational Guitars of Dan and Dale' ie. the Blues Project. I have a very soft spot for this one even though it's hardly their finest hour musically ! i got that batman record as a gift when i was 7 (1966). i played it until it wore out. 30 plus years later (after it was all but forgotten) i stumbled on the cd and bought it. it is GREAT! and the memories! Edited October 24, 2003 by Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibes Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Does Sun Ra himself count, too? If so, my choice would be that Dickerson date recently reissued in the VEE series! ubu I love that Walt Dickerson record too! This is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the title of this thread. Of course, no one ever would have guessed that I liked this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Was just listening to the Andrew Hill BN discs hey rooster-is your avatar some jack kirby creature? have you heard greg bendian's requiem for jack kirby? (you must have it is free jazz and u r a hill fan right?!) {btw i tried to pm this but couldn't get it to work } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 I dig Clifford Jarvis' playing on Freddie Hubbard's Open Sesame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 I dig Clifford Jarvis' playing on Freddie Hubbard's Open Sesame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 A masterpiece, IMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 (edited) This isn't normally a record that I'd mention off of the top of my head but Boykins is on The New Boss Guitar of George Benson (Prestige 7310). I dig it. Listened to it the other day, in fact. Edited October 24, 2003 by Brandon Burke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 MARSHALL ALLEN!!! Amazing player! He was damn exciting (excited?) on Paul Bley's ESP album 'Barrage'. With Milford Graves - no less - behind him along with Eddie Gomez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Anything by Julian Priester or John Gilmore or Marshall Allen or Charles Davis. I dig that Walt Dickerson as well. One not yet mentioned: Pat Patrick. Did a stint with Mongo Santamaria's band, is one some Riverside LPs. Always good solos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 (edited) I dig Clifford Jarvis' playing on Freddie Hubbard's Open Sesame. Just picked up this little puppy yesterday: And Jarvis is stunning here, too! ubu (edited out my - mistaken - remarks about Charlie Persip's presence on a Ra album... sorry -_- ) Edited October 24, 2003 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 When was Persip with Ra?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 When was Persip with Ra?! Well, after doing the google thing and looking up the record I though he was on, I saw I was wrong. Was going from memory, sorry! Edited out above. -_- Thanks for your wake-up call, Brandon, it's still quite early (and snowy) here. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Definitely love Gilmore on 'Blowin' in from Chicago'! Ronnie Boykins is also on Rahsaan's 'Now Please Don't You Cry, Beautiful Edith', which I really enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Thanks for your wake-up call, Brandon, it's still quite early (and snowy) here. ubu ??? The sun´s shining here! ... ... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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