Aggie87 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Posted August 14, 2008 And what's all this cost? $89.99 at Elusive Disc. Quote
papsrus Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 And what's all this cost? $89.99 at Elusive Disc. Kind of Expensive Quote
medjuck Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 I think the best sounding versions to my ears are the Japanese DSD remastered cd and the US SACD. I have one of the lp versions, the gold cd, the box set version, and the DSD remastered cd and the SACD. I no longer have my SACD set -up (had to get new amp for HDTV) but my memory is that they'd changed the placement of the bass on the SACD. Not that the original was necessarily more "correct"-- just what i was used to hearing for more than 30 years. Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 I wonder if KoB ultimately trumps 'Blue Train' on the reissue treadmill? Another version (Super High Quality Material) is due out in Japan in Sept. TOCJ 90024 (HQ CD) Coltrane,John(ts) Blue Train 2600 Yen Quote
jazzbo Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 I think the best sounding versions to my ears are the Japanese DSD remastered cd and the US SACD. I have one of the lp versions, the gold cd, the box set version, and the DSD remastered cd and the SACD. I no longer have my SACD set -up (had to get new amp for HDTV) but my memory is that they'd changed the placement of the bass on the SACD. Not that the original was necessarily more "correct"-- just what i was used to hearing for more than 30 years. Doesn't seem any different to me than the cd and box set versions in any "mix" or placement sense. Quote
gslade Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 I wonder if KoB ultimately trumps 'Blue Train' on the reissue treadmill? Another version (Super High Quality Material) is due out in Japan in Sept. TOCJ 90024 (HQ CD) Coltrane,John(ts) Blue Train 2600 Yen Don't forget Analogue Productions SACD of Blue Train comming up!!! Quote
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 Oh, right.....forgot about that one. Between that plus the MFSL....the RVG edition...the JPN SACD...JRVG and others, 'Blue Train' must have the edge. Quote
RDK Posted August 15, 2008 Report Posted August 15, 2008 And some of you guys complain about the Hoffman board! Quote
Shrdlu Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 I've got the same except for the gold CD. And frankly, I prefer the old LP with the uncorrected speed. That's the sound I've been used to since 1979. Ever since first hearing about this incorrect pitch question I've found it hard to believe that Miles Davis would let all those years go by without kicking up a big stink if the pitch was really such an important issue. Maybe Miles didn't notice. It was not obvious unless you tried to play along with it. I for one didn't know about the tape recorder fault until a recent CD came out. I just thought maybe I was out of tune. I think I read somewhere that Miles said that he could not stand listening to his own albums. so it's even possible that he never listened to it. This clumsy error was typical of Columbia. Others included the failure to issue "Miles Ahead", "Milestones" and the "Green Dolphin Street" session in stereo (I'm talking LPs here), and the later issue of these with horrible fake stereo - all they did was add a reverb to the mono. This also happened to Louis Armstrong's W.C. Handy LP, at which point they even lost the original mono master tapes! Quote
medjuck Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 I think the best sounding versions to my ears are the Japanese DSD remastered cd and the US SACD. I have one of the lp versions, the gold cd, the box set version, and the DSD remastered cd and the SACD. I no longer have my SACD set -up (had to get new amp for HDTV) but my memory is that they'd changed the placement of the bass on the SACD. Not that the original was necessarily more "correct"-- just what i was used to hearing for more than 30 years. I was thinking about this the other day and realized that I've been listening to KOB for nearly 50 years, not 30. Got it from the Columbia record club when it first came out. I guess I'm older than I think. Quote
JETman Posted August 22, 2008 Report Posted August 22, 2008 This is now up for pre-order at both Amazon and CD Universe. It lists for $105.98!!! Another rook job by Sony/BMG ala the On the Corner boxed set. I assume, though, that it is priced so high to cover costs for the lavish packaging and the hardcover book that comes with it. Quote
captainwrong Posted October 6, 2008 Report Posted October 6, 2008 Holding out for the version that holographically recreates the session in my living room. Quote
Aggie87 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Posted October 6, 2008 The discussion on the Hoffmann board seems to indicate that alot of the vinyl is being received warped, and the CDs are scratched, due to how they're housed in the packaging. Doesn't sound like a good design. Quote
porcy62 Posted October 6, 2008 Report Posted October 6, 2008 And some of you guys complain about the Hoffman board! I didn't read this thread at times, but at this point I agree with you. I appreciated also the witty comments above. I pity the poor boys at marketing survey division at Sony that have to report the jazz website's reviews: 'Well, what about our new reissue of KOB?' 'Actually, Sir, someone are complaining about the 'dildo version'. 'The dildo version? Who's the guy who authorized the dildo version? I want him now here! And I want to know how much that dildo's shit cost to us!!' Some sort of, sorry for my English. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 6, 2008 Report Posted October 6, 2008 JETman bought it and he's happy with the set. But then he's addicted to box sets. I think this is a silly set. I've resisted it. If someone were to buy me one for Christmas, I'd smile as wide as I could. . . . Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted October 6, 2008 Report Posted October 6, 2008 I'd be embarrassed to be found with it. Quote
papsrus Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 JETman bought it and he's happy with the set. But then he's addicted to box sets. I think this is a silly set. I've resisted it. If someone were to buy me one for Christmas, I'd smile as wide as I could. . . . "Jim, Dont Be A Fool!" Quote
sidewinder Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 The discussion on the Hoffmann board seems to indicate that alot of the vinyl is being received warped, and the CDs are scratched, due to how they're housed in the packaging. Doesn't sound like a good design. That would be the special 'Hoffmann Board' edition.. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 I enjoy my set but again I haven't owned 1 million copies of KOB. I like having official versions of the false starts, the live cut, the '58 Miles session, and the book. I think my vinyl is fine I have checked it, I plan to frame it. I put the discs in regular cases, some rub marks from the package but they don't affect play. This is why I dislike the ECM Touchstone series design, my copy of Jack DeJohnette's "Special Edition" is scratched up Quote
Stefan Wood Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 Don't want it; don't need it. Money is better spent on the OP Mosaic or the Braxton Mosaic. Quote
mgraham333 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 I enjoy my set but again I haven't owned 1 million copies of KOB. I like having official versions of the false starts, the live cut, the '58 Miles session, and the book. I think my vinyl is fine I have checked it, I plan to frame it. I put the discs in regular cases, some rub marks from the package but they don't affect play. This is why I dislike the ECM Touchstone series design, my copy of Jack DeJohnette's "Special Edition" is scratched up Ok, now I can fess up. I bought the set too. I've been into jazz for just under 10 years. My first copy of KOB was the pitch-corrected re-issue. So this set, with all the extras was worth my time and $. I however received a set from Amazon that had rub marks on the discs that DID affect playback. When are these packing designers going to learn? Just put the discs in a flippin' jewel case...a sleeve...ANYTHING that protects the surface of the disc. While I wouldn't wish a defective set on anyone maybe if there are enough scratched discs the manufacturers will get a clue. Probably not. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 7, 2008 Report Posted October 7, 2008 I just put my girlfriend's pitch-corrected CD issue on my iPod and am fine with that. Used to have a six-eye mono but sold it, as it was a little the worse for wear. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 11, 2008 Report Posted October 11, 2008 I don't understand why they didn't just put all 3 discs in a triple digipak. Watch, down the line they'll put out this set like that minus the bonuses. Quote
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