Late Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What would you say — do you think Concord will ever package the complete Dolphy/Little Five Spot recordings, in recorded order? I'd have to (unfortunately) say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What would you say — do you think Concord will ever package the complete Dolphy/Little Five Spot recordings, in recorded order? I'd have to (unfortunately) say no. It was done by Fantasy on LP--The Great Concert of Eric Dolphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Wouldn't that be about two CD's of material?? That seems like the single most logical repackaging idea you could ever come up with. The three (it is three, right?) current single-CD issues of this material are quite short as I recall, so it's not even like packing it all on two CD's would result in overly long CD's. Years ago I totaled up the times and got to something like 85 minutes at most (less than 90, I'm almost sure of it). Could it be that the whole thing might even fit on one 82-mintute CD?? (Isn’t that the new max time limit on CD’s these days??) What are the timings of the current individual CD's?? Truth be told, I've borrowed this material a number of times from friends (a disc or two, here and there, never all three at the same time), but I've held off buying copies for myself precisely because I've assumed FOR YEARS that a unified single package (complete) would be forthcoming in only a matter of another year or two. (And I've thought that for going well on 10 years now.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Wouldn't that be about two CD's of material?? That seems like the single most logical repackaging idea you could ever come up with. The three (it is three, right?) current single-CD issues of this material are quite short as I recall, so it's not even like packing it all on two CD's would result in overly long CD's. Years ago I totaled up the times and got to something like 85 minutes at most (less than 90, I'm almost sure of it). Could it be that the whole thing might even fit on one 82-mintute CD?? (Isn’t that the new max time limit on CD’s these days??) What are the timings of the current individual CD's?? Truth be told, I've borrowed this material a number of times from friends (a disc or two, here and there, never all three at the same time), but I've held off buying copies for myself precisely because I've assumed FOR YEARS that a unified single package (complete) would be forthcoming in only a matter of another year or two. (And I've thought that for going well on 10 years now.) You're underestimating the length--the session yielded 3 LPs's worth of material, plus 3 unissued tracks (alt take of "Bee Vamp", "God Bless' the Child" & "Stratus Seeking", IIRC). It is extremely annoying that this hasn't been issued as a single set, aside from the LP-era Great Concert & the expensive Prestige box set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Wasn't aware of the unissued tracks. Were they on the Prestige box?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Yes. The alternate of "Bee Vamp" is the bonus track on the OJC of the Five Spot vol 1 album, the other two were available on a compilation of odds & ends at one point. Edited July 22, 2008 by Nate Dorward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Yes, all was in the Prestige box - all tracks add up to 141 minutes, a nice fit on a double CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 It is extremely annoying that this hasn't been issued as a single set, aside from the LP-era Great Concert & the expensive Prestige box set. Agreed! Its historical importance should be reason enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 ... the complete Dolphy/Little Five Spot recordings, in recorded order? Recorded order could be a problem, as the longest tracks are 25 minutes ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Well, it'll be only a few years until the date is past the 50-year limit & the Andorran folks will jump on it.... so not too long to wait for a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Skid Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is the "recorded order" of this material? It's not obvious from the discographies I've consulted. Looks like ten tracks total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Well, it'll be only a few years until the date is past the 50-year limit & the Andorran folks will jump on it.... so not too long to wait for a set. I'm starting to turn around on these Andorran labels, etc. If the major labels or the labels that own the material aren't doing anything at all, or are fucking up the releases, might as well let somebody else do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Considering they did the Red Garland at the Prelude 2 disc set, which is hardly ever going to be a huge seller, the Complete Dolphy/Little Five Spot recordings seem a bit of a no brainer. Also, Blue Note did make a point of putting Dolphy's name on the cover of the recent Mingus Live at Cornell set, so clearly his name has some currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldB3 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is the "recorded order" of this material? It's not obvious from the discographies I've consulted. Looks like ten tracks total. From a user on Emusic: "If you are interested in hearing the concert in chronological order--or at least in the sequence as recorded by Prestige--here is the set list (according to Vladimir Simosko and Barry Tepperman's discography): 1) Status Seeking, 2) God Bless the Child (solo!), 3) Aggression, 4) Like Someone in Love, 5) Fire Waltz, 6) Bee Vamp, 7) The Prophet, 8) Number Eight (Potsa Lotsa), 9) Booker's Waltz, 10) Bee Vamp (alternate take). " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Skid Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 What is the "recorded order" of this material? It's not obvious from the discographies I've consulted. Looks like ten tracks total. From a user on Emusic: "If you are interested in hearing the concert in chronological order--or at least in the sequence as recorded by Prestige--here is the set list (according to Vladimir Simosko and Barry Tepperman's discography): 1) Status Seeking, 2) God Bless the Child (solo!), 3) Aggression, 4) Like Someone in Love, 5) Fire Waltz, 6) Bee Vamp, 7) The Prophet, 8) Number Eight (Potsa Lotsa), 9) Booker's Waltz, 10) Bee Vamp (alternate take). " Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Well, it'll be only a few years until the date is past the 50-year limit & the Andorran folks will jump on it.... so not too long to wait for a set. Not if the European limit is extended to 95 years as proposed by the European Commission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Andorran folks have already put out many releases with material from the 60s and 70s (and I think even the 80s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 maybe this time they'll tune the piano - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alexander Hawkins Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 p.s. is Andorra EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 p.s. is Andorra EU? don't think they'll be affected... btw on my james moody/kenny barron argo/lonehill twofer i noticed a strange writing... "licensed by Long Horn inc. D.L. AND 174-2007 - made in the EU Cover & inside booklet photos: x" whatever that means (lh=lonehill=longhorn...?) almost sounds as if they "licensed" it from an Andorrean company who got it out of public domain and then printed it in spain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 This material and all the other sessions sounds fantastic (to my ears) on the Prestige box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Also, Blue Note did make a point of putting Dolphy's name on the cover of the recent Mingus Live at Cornell set, so clearly his name has some currency. Yeah, from what I understand, some folks have heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 p.s. is Andorra EU? Andorra is not a full member of the European Union, but has a special relationship with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm holding out for Dolphy Plays For Lovers. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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