The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Haven't got any Lightnin' Hopkins. Haven't heard any, as a matter of fact. Have a suspicion that the guy's just too rural to be of interest to me. Talk to me. MG Quote
BruceM Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) I think the idea that Hopkins was just a rural/folk musician was concocted during the folk revival in the early sixties in order to sell records. Unfortunately, most of his recordings follow this trend and can tend to sound alike. Charlie Musselwhite told a story of going to see Hopkins at a juke joint in the south during the sixties. He plugged his guitar in and proceeded to rip the place apart. Musselwhite said it was one of the most dynamic sets he ever saw. The Rhino "Very Best of" compilation gives a pretty good overview of his career. If you want to have one CD I'd go for that. Edited April 20, 2008 by BruceM Quote
JSngry Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 The cat was from m-f'in Houston, a historically metropolitan port city with a large African-American population. How "rural" is that? Quote
Joe Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Electric Lightnin' -- Track down MOJO HAND and LIGHTNIN' AND THE BLUES Acoustic Lightnin' -- I'm partial to LIGHTNIN' IN NEW YORK / the Candid date and the sides Sony recently anthologized on HELLO CENTRAL. I wouldn;t necessarily sleep on the Prestige recordings, either. My favorite of these sessions have been compiled on DOUBLE BLUES (I think they may also be available separately as well.) "I'm Going To Build Me A Heaven Of My Own" indeed. Some of the late 60's / early 70's flirtations with the sounds of the counterculture are interesting -- like the session where Lightnin' is backed by members of The 13th Floor Elevators, FREE FORM PATTERNS, or a set of "previously unreleased" LA recordings Verve put out in the 90's (the title escapes me, sorry) -- but I would not consider them high priorities. Quote
BillF Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 I saw Lightnin' Hopkins play during the British blues boom of the sixties. Love his "conversational" vocal style and eight-to-the-bar boogie-style guitar playing. Lovely guitar sound, too. One of my favorite blues artists (along with Jimmy Reed). Quote
John L Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Haven't got any Lightnin' Hopkins. Haven't heard any, as a matter of fact. Have a suspicion that the guy's just too rural to be of interest to me. Talk to me. MG Well, pick up a Lightnin' Hopkins disc and decide for yourself. You owe it to yourself. Lightnin' was very special. He had an exceptional voice for the blues, one of the very best, and a guitar style that went hand-in-glove with it. He is one of the handful of blues artists that everyone interested in the blues needs to come to grips with, one way or another. Maybe pick up first some of the more raw electric stuff that he did in the mid-50s. It is the most urban of his output, and also some of the very best. The Herald recordings should do the trick. The Modern recordings would as well. Lightnin' was not rural, but he was very downhome in the sense of a Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, or John Lee Hooker. Quote
marcello Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) The cat was from m-f'in Houston, a historically metropolitan port city with a large African-American population. How "rural" is that? Jim's right. There's a great story of Lightnin' Hopkins by Grover Lewis. (Jim you may really dig this) His blues are a country comes to the big city type, but so was Muddy. I'm a Crawling Black Snake and Good Morning Little Schoolgirl are bad boy blues. Powerful stuff! Edited April 20, 2008 by marcello Quote
paul secor Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Haven't got any Lightnin' Hopkins. Haven't heard any, as a matter of fact. Have a suspicion that the guy's just too rural to be of interest to me. Talk to me. MG Well, pick up a Lightnin' Hopkins disc and decide for yourself. You owe it to yourself. Lightnin' was very special. He had an exceptional voice for the blues, one of the very best, and a guitar style that went hand-in-glove with it. He is one of the handful of blues artists that everyone interested in the blues needs to come to grips with, one way or another. Maybe pick up first some of the more raw electric stuff that he did in the mid-50s. It is the most urban of his output, and also some of the very best. The Herald recordings should do the trick. The Modern recordings would as well. Lightnin' was not rural, but he was very downhome in the sense of a Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, or John Lee Hooker. John L's got it right. If you pick up Jake Head Boogie (Ace) - Modern recordings, The Herald Recordings Vol. 1 & 2 (Collectables), and perhaps an Arhoolie - maybe Lightnin' or Texas Blues - for later Lightnin', you'll have the foundation of a good Lightnin' Hopkins collection. The Gold Star Sessions 1 & 2 (Arhoolie) or The Complete Aladdin Sessions (EMI) could substitute for the Ace/Modern volume, but Jake Head Boogie would be my personal choice. The Herald material was issued on a great single CD, Remember Me, on the Ember label. Its o/p, but since it was a UK label, it might turn up there in a used store, or somewhere on the net. I don't have the Collectables issues, but given that label's rep for occasional sketchiness, you might try and go for the Ember, if it turns up. Lightnin' recorded a lot, especially in later years - it's not an overstatement to say that he was over recorded - so I find it best to be very choosy with his later recordings. Quote
Harold_Z Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 With Lightnin' you can dive in anywhere. You'll know if you like him or not right away. my bet is you'll like him. There is a ton of his stuff around - I would opt for something in good sound for a starter. Lightnin' would mess with the changes - where the changes would come may not come with Lightnin'. Not an accident - he may toss in an extra bar here and there, maybe an extra turnaround. By no means is this ineptitude. He just was doing it his way. If there was a bass and drums they had to be on their toes. There was an interview in (I think) Guitar Player magazine many years ago. the famous quote was "Lightnin' change when Lighnin' wants to change." Quote
jimi089 Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVF-0JKLnd4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNDJF4azgog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFTSm_LX8kE Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Agree with John L and Paul Secor re- his early 50s recordings (Modern, Gold Star, etc.). The must be a huge number of compilations of his work so I'll leave recommendations to those more familiar with what is and has ben available but Ace should always be a safe bet. If you want vinyl, some nice ones (compiled with the lover sof more energetic blues in mind) are these (rec. 1954, mostly Herald material): Bad Boogie - Diving Duck DD 4308 Flash Lightnin' - Diving Duck DD 4307 Quote
Alexander Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 I've got "Mojo Hand" on LP and the Rhino best-of on CD, and I think that both are great. Also, Hopkins' "Happy New Year Blues" is great. It's available on the great "Where Will You Be Christmas Day" compilation on D-T-D. Quote
Harold_Z Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 Obama with a fret? HA! Lighnin' was the guitarist of change. On his time table. Hmmm.......Maybe Obama with a threat! Quote
jostber Posted April 20, 2008 Report Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) 3 more great options with this giant of the blues: California Mudslide: Texas Thunderbolt (Proper Records - 4 CD): and: http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_det...?Title_ID=15976 Edited April 20, 2008 by jostber Quote
kh1958 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 The OBCs are worth getting. Lightnin' was the first blues performer I ever saw. He was quite drunk and was playing with a backup band of amateurs, who I assume agreed to play for free. It took a number of years to want to hear him again on record, but I got over it and like him now. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 I like the Modern stuff a bunch and have a soft spot for the "folkie" stuff on Tradition recorded by Mack McCormick. Quote
kenny weir Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) You can't beat this - $12 for two discs at Amazon: And this is a classic: Edited April 21, 2008 by kenny weir Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 Saw Lightening at the U of Sask. in the '70s (a golden era for me). solo electric and quirky, but a good time was had by all and beyond that I really don't remember. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 21, 2008 Author Report Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks to everyone. I've really found it difficult to sort out Hopkins - he recorded so much and there are fifty million compilations from unknown sources out there. I'll see if I can get the Aladdin set and then go for some of the Ace Modern material. Always wanted to get into him - he was a big influence on Melvin Sparks. MG Quote
jostber Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 There are some great Hopkins stories over at Weeniepedia: http://weeniecampbell.com/mambo/index.php?...tion=tags;id=16 Many audiophile releases here: http://store.acousticsounds.com/search_res...htnin%20hopkins Another great compilation of early stuff: Blues Kingpins (Virgin) Quote
AllenLowe Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) my favorite Lighting recordings are the Gold Stars, late 1940s, I think, released by Arhoolie - I was trying to write out one of his solos one day for a group piece I was doing and I gave up - thinking, 'jeez, this is like a Sonny Rollins solo' - rhythmically, I mean, and I think Lightning shows this side of himself best on his electric pieces - Edited April 21, 2008 by AllenLowe Quote
GregN Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVF-0JKLnd4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNDJF4azgog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFTSm_LX8kE Those videos are fantastic. I've got some Hopkins in my collection and was very inspired by him early on. Man, watching those videos makes we want to dig the records out and become inspired again. Stuff gives me serious goosebumps. Quote
GregN Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eApncJJmV6w...feature=related Quote
WorldB3 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks to everyone. I've really found it difficult to sort out Hopkins - he recorded so much and there are fifty million compilations from unknown sources out there. I'll see if I can get the Aladdin set and then go for some of the Ace Modern material. Always wanted to get into him - he was a big influence on Melvin Sparks. MG Give him a go and let us know, he is one of my all time favorite artists. I mostly listen to the Bluesville sides these days but the Aladdin and Ace stuff is also great. Quote
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