Charlton Heston has passed

[vajerzy]

I enjoyed his movies and sorry he died.

He married his wife in 1944 and they were still together- which is a cool thing to see- and a rarity in the entertainment business.

[BruceH]

So weird last night without knowing he passed we were at a party and the talk was about

The Omega Man.

That final scene where he dies with his arms out, christ like in the water fountain. Back in the

70s they used to show that film on channel 38/56 here in Boston a lot, the Saturday afternoon

movie.

Oh YEAH! No wonder it seems like I grew up watching that damn movie. It invaded my nightmares, for a while.

I'll mainly remember him for "Goddamn you all to hell, you blew it up!" and of course "Get your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty apes!" ACTING!

[7/4]

Bah.

[JSngry]

...IMHO NRA has more to deal with an economic lobby rather then civil rights or Constitution, my opinion of course.

Well, yeah, of course that's the end result, but it is all predicated on their proclaimed interpretation of the 2nd amendment of the Constitution, and they have been quite adept at manipulating many of their members sincere constitutional concerns towards their own money/power/firearms industry lobbyist ends.

[Jazzmoose]

Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency.

There are those who would make the case that those are not contradictory positions, but are in fact complimentary.

I'm not one of them, at least not absolutely, but...

I am, and I agree. I know that many on the left would prefer that the Bill of Rights was one ammendment shorter, but I don't agree.

Can't say I thought Heston was a great actor, though. Kinda like John Wayne; fun to watch, but pretty one dimensional.

[Tim McG]

"Not until they pry it from my cold, dead hands."

Hm.

Seems to me this is the NRS's big giant chance to try that theory out, eh? The bastards.

No love lost here and may God bless the innocent victims of gun violence.

[Noj]

I enjoyed his acting. RIP.

[AllenLowe]

"there may have been a tradition of beefy stiff guys at New Trier"

hmmmm...must have been a wild time in the shower room after gym -

[Chalupa]

"Not until they pry it from my cold, dead hands."

His gun or his toupee?

[Dan Gould]

Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job.

I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA.

Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job.

I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA.

If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration.

Here's another taken at the same event:

Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job.

I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA.

If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration.

Here's another taken at the same event:

Yep, all italian newspapers obits remark that Heston supported civil liberties back then and later turned into a strong rep supporter up to NRA presidency.

Where's the apology, Chris? Where is the acknowledgment that you were wrong about Heston's support of the Civil Rights movement?

[Christiern]

Dan Gould: "Where's the apology, Chris? Where is the acknowledgment that you were wrong about Heston's support of the Civil Rights movement?"

Apology for what? For saying that the photo looks like a botched PS job? I still think it, and the second one, look doctored.

Did I ever say anything about the Civil Rights movement in this thread? Perhaps you ought to apologize for not reading a thread before responding to it and jumping to the wrong conclusions, eh?

[RDK]

Wow, love this outpouring of liberal compassion.

Maybe next we can all take a field trip to spit on his grave.

[Christiern]

And what, may I ask, prompted that nonsense, RDK?

[7/4]

Bad actor turns politican...sounds too familiar.

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[connoisseur series500]

Conrad, that photo is obviously a poor Photoshop job.

I think anyone with Altzheimers (or any disease, for that matter) is to be wished good health. I lie most of Heston's movies, but I am bothered by anyone's blind support of he NRA.

If you surf around a bit, you can see that the photo is credited Courtesy of National Archives & Records Administration.

Here's another taken at the same event:

The guy in the middle is James Baldwin.

[Larry Kart]

"there may have been a tradition of beefy stiff guys at New Trier"

hmmmm...must have been a wild time in the shower room after gym -

New Trier had a big swimming tradition (won the state title for many years), and in swim class, which everyone had to take, the boys swam in the nude. This may have been common at the time, for reasons of hygiene -- one showered before getting into the Olympic-sized pool, and no swim suits meant there was no issue of cleanliness aside from that of your own scrubbed body -- but I tell you it felt weird. The girls wore awful ill-fitting tank suits, which I'm told left many of them feeling weird/traumatized for slightly different reasons. Speaking of cleanliness, one would-be hell raiser stuffed a Baby Ruth bar up his butt before swim class and then released it from its hiding place while we were all in the pool, where it may have floated. In any case, swim coach Dave Robertson (something of a Donald Rumsfeld type, Rumsfeld being a New Trier grad; he was a star wrestler) almost had a rage-induced heart attack.

[Noj]

It's no big deal.

[Dan Gould]

Dan Gould: "Where's the apology, Chris? Where is the acknowledgment that you were wrong about Heston's support of the Civil Rights movement?"

Apology for what? For saying that the photo looks like a botched PS job? I still think it, and the second one, look doctored.

Did I ever say anything about the Civil Rights movement in this thread? Perhaps you ought to apologize for not reading a thread before responding to it and jumping to the wrong conclusions, eh?

That's a crock of shit, Chris. You questioned the authenticity of the photograph to cast doubts on Heston's involvement in the Civil Rights movement. 7/4 established that the photo is legit, Porcy noted that Heston's involvement in Civil Rights is being noted in obits.

Tell me I'm wrong. Or why don't you explain your purpose in casting doubts on the photos in the first place? Its an incontrovertible fact that Heston worked for Civil Rights in the sixties, if you are aware of that fact, why did you/do you question the authenticity of the photographs?

[AllenLowe]

actually, if you look closely at that photo, I'm the black guy in the last row, third from the left -

[AllenLowe]

I went to a few of those Civil Rights marches, but then I stopped going - I mean, how many times can you watch Al Hibbler bump into Ray Charles?

Edited April 7, 2008 by AllenLowe

[7/4]

actually, if you look closely at that photo, I'm the black guy in the last row, third from the left -

Leonard? Is that you?

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[Christiern]

Dan Gould: "That's a crock of shit, Chris. You questioned the authenticity of the photograph to cast doubts on Heston's involvement in the Civil Rights movement. 7/4 established that the photo is legit, Porcy noted that Heston's involvement in Civil Rights is being noted in obits.

Tell me I'm wrong. Or why don't you explain your purpose in casting doubts on the photos in the first place? Its an incontrovertible fact that Heston worked for Civil Rights in the sixties, if you are aware of that fact, why did you/do you question the authenticity of the photographs?"

Oh. so you are a mindreader now? It looks as if you are trying to start some controversy here, but--sorry, Dan--it ain't gonna work. If it makes you happy, you just go on thinking whatever you want.

[Dan Gould]

Dan Gould: "That's a crock of shit, Chris. You questioned the authenticity of the photograph to cast doubts on Heston's involvement in the Civil Rights movement. 7/4 established that the photo is legit, Porcy noted that Heston's involvement in Civil Rights is being noted in obits.

Tell me I'm wrong. Or why don't you explain your purpose in casting doubts on the photos in the first place? Its an incontrovertible fact that Heston worked for Civil Rights in the sixties, if you are aware of that fact, why did you/do you question the authenticity of the photographs?"

Oh. so you are a mindreader now? It looks as if you are trying to start some controversy here, but--sorry, Dan--it ain't gonna work. If it makes you happy, you just go on thinking whatever you want.

Fine Chris but rest assured that everyone here knows exactly what you were saying with your "photoshop" comment.

[7/4]

Dan Gould: "That's a crock of shit, Chris. You questioned the authenticity of the photograph to cast doubts on Heston's involvement in the Civil Rights movement. 7/4 established that the photo is legit, Porcy noted that Heston's involvement in Civil Rights is being noted in obits.

Tell me I'm wrong. Or why don't you explain your purpose in casting doubts on the photos in the first place? Its an incontrovertible fact that Heston worked for Civil Rights in the sixties, if you are aware of that fact, why did you/do you question the authenticity of the photographs?"

Oh. so you are a mindreader now? It looks as if you are trying to start some controversy here, but--sorry, Dan--it ain't gonna work. If it makes you happy, you just go on thinking whatever you want.

Fine Chris but rest assured that everyone here knows exactly what you were saying with your "photoshop" comment.

He was saying the photo was Photoshopped aka doctored.

[Dan Gould]

Dan Gould: "That's a crock of shit, Chris. You questioned the authenticity of the photograph to cast doubts on Heston's involvement in the Civil Rights movement. 7/4 established that the photo is legit, Porcy noted that Heston's involvement in Civil Rights is being noted in obits.

Tell me I'm wrong. Or why don't you explain your purpose in casting doubts on the photos in the first place? Its an incontrovertible fact that Heston worked for Civil Rights in the sixties, if you are aware of that fact, why did you/do you question the authenticity of the photographs?"

Oh. so you are a mindreader now? It looks as if you are trying to start some controversy here, but--sorry, Dan--it ain't gonna work. If it makes you happy, you just go on thinking whatever you want.

Fine Chris but rest assured that everyone here knows exactly what you were saying with your "photoshop" comment.

He was saying the photo was Photoshopped aka doctored.

He was saying the photo was photoshopped aka doctored aka Heston wasn't there aka Heston was an unreformed Republican bigot, like all the rest.