mgraham333 Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) Miles Davis - Bags' Groove Sonny Rollins - Plays For Bird John Coltrane - Settin' The Pace Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis - Very Saxy Ron Carter/Eric Dolphy/Mal Waldron - Where? Edited March 19, 2008 by mgraham333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I'd like to hear the Rollins...but the real gem is Very Saxy...that is one KILLER meeting of tenor titans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Same old, same old. No imagination at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis Not to be picky, but I had no idea that this was VERY SAXY until I clicked on the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Same old, same old. No imagination at all. I'm with Chuck on this one. How's about something new and different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 ... douchebags COULD usefully do something like put 3 Prestige lps (later OJCs) on 2 cds to beat the public domain hit back... edc would despair (but he has work to do & his arm is getting tired.) that would be a great idea, really... for instance a 2CD set of the Gryce albums w/Williams (I struggled to find all of them for a while, they're fine!), or they could do something about the Jackie McLean sessions (though most of us will have most of them by now, I guess...), or even less obvious/famous guys like Bennie Green, hell why not!? I still need to get "Very Saxy", I confess... that's one of the effects of discs being around forever: I feel no urge to get them - in fact I behaved like that with much of the Fantasy catalogue, and my wallet and to some extent stomach suffered quite a bit in the last year as I was trying to catch up as good as possible before the Condord raid really hit. A short but very positive PS: the yurpeen distributor (UMG) of what was the Fantasy catalogue is still occasionally re-printing titles that pop up in sales here (and in sales only, they don't have them in stock, they are clueless anyway, but so am I in this case, as there's no good and up to date info about these reissue activities on the web, as far as I know), anway, those of late included the great "When Farmer Met Gryce", which is a rather unobvious choice, I'd say... of course it's not done with RVGs compression, either, just the old OJC complete with the OJC-logo on the front cover, but with a different serial number on the tray and back of the booklet, and with the UMG logo on there somewhere, too. I must own at least 50 of those UMG-Fantasy (for the sake of simplicity... they're actually Prestige, Riverside, Pablo, Contemporary, whatever labels) reissues by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 These reissues are unnecessary, especially since RVG's remastering - in my experience with some of the first RVG reissues - is no better than the old OJC mastering. About the form of reissue - complete chronological editions comprising several albums or original albums (with bonus tracks where available) - everyone has his own preferences. I prefer to listen to whole sessions at once, whether on a dedicated CD or as part of a box set, and what I hate most is when sessions are spread over two CDs to make the music fit on a minimum number of discs. As if an extra disc (three 50-minute discs instead of two 75-minute CDs) would increase the cost that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 ... douchebags COULD usefully do something like put 3 Prestige lps (later OJCs) on 2 cds to beat the public domain hit back... edc would despair (but he has work to do & his arm is getting tired.) that would be a great idea, really... for instance a 2CD set of the Gryce albums w/Williams (I struggled to find all of them for a while, they're fine!), or they could do something about the Jackie McLean sessions (though most of us will have most of them by now, I guess...), or even less obvious/famous guys like Bennie Green, hell why not!? I agree. It seems like they WANT to leave some of the business to the public domain labels. Even some of the two-fers they have now re-issued as single CDs are rather puzzling (like the Stan Getz one that includes the Tjader sextet date and a wild mix of his earlier quartet sessions for Prestige, none of the latter complete IIRC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Even some of the two-fers they have now re-issued as single CDs are rather puzzling (like the Stan Getz one that includes the Tjader sextet date and a wild mix of his earlier quartet sessions for Prestige, none of the latter complete IIRC). These are the most bizarre reissues in recent times. As if those 1970's 2LP reissues had some kind of historic relevance. It's almost like reissueing a 40 minute "Best of" compilation LP on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yes, those twofer album reissues are indeed strange... we discussed them before, somewhere. About the Getz sessions: Quartets and Prezervation are among the re-pressed Universal/Concord OJCs, I got both in that incarnation. They're a mess. I assume I'll eventually piece the instrumental tracks together chronologically onto a CDR. Or make a 2CDR set including the Brothers session and the Raney one from "Early Stan". Those, to me, would have been ideal sessions to sort out for reissue, instead of reissuing the old chaotic albums, but I guess to the album fetishists, even those paste jobs are holy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Count me in as an album fetishist. As for the Concord reissues, they are simply clueless. Despite Fantasy's efforts there is quite a bit left to reissue on CD, particularly from Prestige in the 60s. There are numerous albums left from artists like Shirley Scott, Don Patterson, Johnny "Hammond" Smith, Willis Jackson, Bobby Timmons and Freddie McCoy, the remaining Eric Klosses etc, etc... I would buy whatever they put out of those but I simply won't buy another copy of Bags Groove or Settin' The Pace (yawn). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryCurleyMoe Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Same old, same old. No imagination at all. I feel the same. As a matter of fact I was just thinking how nice it would be to have something FRESH come out from Concord ...HOW BOUT THAT 2 LP SET ON PRESTIGE BY GILDO MAHONES for example? To their credit - Stax just put out a decent Carla Thomas previously unreleased live set from the Bohemian Caverns... It's smarter IMO to snatch up all the OJC's you can before they vanish as opposed to reinvesting in the same standard fare. Edited March 20, 2008 by LarryCurleyMoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Same old, same old. No imagination at all. I've sent them two long, polite emails delivering that message, trying to encourage them on some of the things they did right, like the Coltrane boxes and some of the other boxes (we've decided those were carryover projects from Fantasy), explaining how the RVG's have no attraction to people like us, and offering suggestions. They, of course, haven't bothered to answer either email. They don't get it, don't WANT to get it. Definitive and Lone Hill will get it when the public domain time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 As a matter of fact I was just thinking how nice it would be to have something FRESH come out from Concord ...HOW BOUT THAT 2 LP SET ON PRESTIGE BY GILDO MAHONES for example? I'd run out and buy that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Obviously Chuck was right when Fantasy was sold way back when. We don't know how good we had it all those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Bags' Groove---wow. Good news for a beginner I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 $8.98, less 20% with coupon code "CMG" at http://www.concordmusicgroup.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Concord is a ninth (or nineteenth) class jazz label. So what else is new? I guess I'd better read the Concord sale thread... Still a few Fantasy Prestiges I want. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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