Gary Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 A nice surprise both the Chambers & John Patton selects have arrived here (# 865 & 767) . I thought i might have to wait a while as there looked to be a hold up with the John Patton set last week. This is my 1st John Patton purchase , but after reading a few of the threads on here i think i'll have a pleasant evenings listening. Quote
Soul Stream Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Yeah, mine just dropped this morning. I've got all the music...but the booklet is BAADDD. GREAT PICTURES. Mostly of the "Along Came John" session. Some great shots that show the Dixon/Patton/Green team talking it out during the session among other things. It's GREAT to hear "That Certain Feeling" cleanly for the first time without pops and crackles!!!! That session is so awesome. Bad stuff. Quote
jmjk Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Just received my Patton Select this morning. Can't wait to listen. I feel greasy just lookin' at the photos! Quote
Soulstation1 Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 i keep checking the front door and no package. i hate you eastcoasters!!! mosaic needs to move to the westcoast ss1 Quote
Dave James Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 (edited) Soulstation, Once upon a time Mosaic was a West Coast operation. If I recall correctly, they were located in one of the "Santas" in California. I live in Portland Oregon, so I feel your pain. Up over and out. Edited September 29, 2003 by Dave James Quote
Eric Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Got mine in KC!!! They thoughtfully included two booklets, one of which I would be happy to share with whoever is interested - just PM me. Eric Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Having only heard "Minor Swing" on the DIW and "Congo Chant" on Blue Planet Man, listening to the originals right now is the coolest! B) Quote
jazzkrow Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 ERIC: Just sent you a PM! I'd love your extra copy of the Patton booklet, unless someone has already beaten me to it! -Jeff : Quote
Gary Posted September 29, 2003 Author Report Posted September 29, 2003 i keep checking the front door and no package. i hate you eastcoasters!!! mosaic needs to move to the westcoast ss1 Hey I'm pretty far East compared to you - ENGLAND. Thats why it was a nice suprise today - i normally have to wait three or four days after reading that you guys have had your boxes delivered. Quote
Eric Posted September 29, 2003 Report Posted September 29, 2003 Jeff - got it - it's yours. Eric Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Yeah, mine just dropped this morning. Mine will when that third shoe drops... the Mulligan box. Quote
davef Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Got mine today too. Any comments yet on the sound quality? Quote
hutch head Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 So, I get my Patton Select today and I pop in disc 1, starting with track 7 "The Rock," the first song off of "The Way I Feel," because I've never heard this record before. Does anyone else notice distortion at exactly ten seconds into the track? Is this the mastering or the recording? Don't tell me we've got another Moncur Select on our hands here. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Man that's just freakin' terrible!!!! The distortion goes from the start of "Rock" to about 00:15 and peaks at about ten seconds. I guess that's why they threw the caveat warning into the booklet that there is "organ distortion throughout this set". WTF... if I want organ distortion I'll reply to some of that e-mail spam I get!!! I recall no such thing on the TOCJ (that now resides somewhere between here and reindeer-land that I stupidly sold off, but was never received, to a board member). So are Ron and the boys playing salt-water-taffy-store with the tapes or what? And I thought it sounded terrific when I first put on this set with discs two and three. Quote
wesbed Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 (edited) I haven't purchased this set yet, but would like to. I can accept distortion in these recordings since they are old recordings. Does the distortion sound like it's inherent in the master tapes and cannot be removed? Or, does it appear to have been added by the remastering process? Is the distortion bad enough to cause a 'no buy' decision versus a 'yes buy' decision? Another link here. Edited October 1, 2003 by wesbed Quote
scottb Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 The irony of the title of this thread is that it appears my Patton Select WAS dropped!! And from a pretty great distance. This is my fourth Select and the first in an envelope instead of a box. It was obviously compressed at some point. The box is creased on the sides and one of the jewel cases is cracked. I had the same experience as hutch head, having never heard THE WAY I FEEL, I went right to The Rock only to hear that distortion! I could tell something was wrong from the first instant. I'm certainly no expert but to me it sounds like a damaged tape. It reminded me of when my old casettes would get eaten by a player and I would rescue them and continue to try to play them with the tape all visibly crumpled. (don't miss those casettes for sure!) I can live with 15 secs of distortion for all this great music if this is what the source tape has to offer, but otherwise, I want a cleaned up copy!! Quote
Guest Chaney Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Dusty Groove is already selling ALL of the Select sets for $49.99. What's up with that? Jumping the gun a bit, no? (Not that there's a law against them buying up a bunch of sets and selling them on their site. IF that's what's happened.) Dusty Groove Quote
P.D. Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 (edited) Dusty Groove is already selling ALL of the Select sets for $49.99. What's up with that? Jumping the gun a bit, no? (Not that there's a law against them buying up a bunch of sets and selling them on their site. IF that's what's happened.) Dusty Groove Interesting .. If they buy them at current list, which if Mosaic is honest, should be the case. They then make about $10.00 profit selling them. Wonder what the discount price to stores would be when Mosaic " officially" sells the sets through them.. less than $39.99 ??? Edited October 1, 2003 by P.D. Quote
wulfman Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I'm listening right now to the TOCJ, and there is no problem with The Rock. Could it be a McMastering problem? What does it sound like exactly? It could be some kind of digital distortion. Makes me wonder if anyone listens to these before they go out. Quote
scottb Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 For the full 15 seconds there is a background noise that may be organ distortion. At 10 sec there is a warble with variable speed and volume which seems to effect the horns less than the rest? Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 It's not organ distortion or the buzz of a hot recording at all. It's got to be simply a defective tape that was used. So why is it that the TOCJ is pristine? It's like the old old Japanese "Song for My Father" intro. It has absolutely no glitches at all on a 1985 import but raised it's ugliness on the RVG and everything since. Why is it that so many companies can pain-stakingly remaster stuff so perfectly and here we have yet another Blue Note hiccup. Could they not have seamed the intro from a regular old 16-bit disc into the salvagable masters for the final production of this? And why is it usually just on the start-up of a session? Listen closely to the RVG of "The Turnaround" it's got the same thing going on, but to a much lesser degree than "The Rock", and never had the glitch on the Collector's Choice issue. I got a feeling that all of these things are just plugged in and walked away from until the bell rings bringing McMaster or who ever back from break-time. I know...bitch bitch bitch...yea yea...it's all about the music. Well get the music right would ya! Just waiting for the next selects to have the booklets printed on tracing paper,too. Quote
Soul Stream Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 The Rock is totally f'd up sounding on the Mosaic Select. The tape is being eaten by the machine for the 1st 15 seconds or so before it rights itself. Horrible. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Thanks for the heads up, guys! Guess I'll be sticking with my individual cds and passing on the Mosaic. Man, we gotta be careful about "upgrading" our older stuff!! Seems like the older stuff may end up sounding better as these tapes continue to degrade with all the remasterings. Watch out "Blue Train!!" Quote
hutch head Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I e-mailed Mosaic last night about this matter -- still haven't received a reply yet. That disclaimer in the booklet about organ distortion cannot refer to the sound of a tape being eaten alive. So much for Mosaic's "exacting state-of-the-art standards"! I've ordered a total of 4 sets from Mosaic (Lee Morgan/Wayne Shorter, Moncur Select, Chambers Select, and Patton Select) -- and two of them have been a hack job. Quote
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