Your Top 10 in the 1967-1972 Soul Jazz / Acid Jazz ERA

[Soulstation1]

only rule

you can only have 2 of the same artist / leader

so far

1 Reuben Wilson - Love Bug

2 Charles Earland - Black Talk!

3 Rusty Bryant - Rusty Bryant Returns

4 Gene Ammons - The Boss Is Back

5 Dr Lonie Smith - Think

6 Pat Martino - El Hombre

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Edited March 10, 2008 by Soulstation1

[jodigrind]

1. Sonny Stitt--Just the Way it Was, Live in Baltimore

2. Lou Donaldson--The Scorpion

3. Rusty Bryant--Night Train Now!

4. Charles Earland--Black Talk!

5. Jimmy McGriff--Electric Funk

6. Stanley Turrentine--Sugar

7. Johnny Hammond (Smith)--Breakout

8. Grover Washington Jr.--Inner City Blues

9. Lou Donaldson--Alligator Boogaloo

10. Lonnie Smith--Drives

Bonus--Grant Green's live albums

[connoisseur series500]

With an orientation towards B-3 "party" music, and not having checked the exact dates of these cds, I offer the following ten:

1. Get Up With It Richard Groove Holmes

2. Root Down Jimmy Smith

3. Got a Good Thing Goin Big John Patton

4. Legends of Acid Jazz, 2-fer Charles Kynard

5. Move Your Hand Lonnie Smith

6. Intensity Charles Earland

7. Love Bug Reuben Wilson

8. Hail Caesar!/75 Caesar Frazier

9. Don't Mess With Mr. T Stanley Turrentine

10. Funk Fantastique Charles Earland

Honorable mention:

Let it Roll Big John Patton

That Certain Feeling Big John Patton

Organ Grinder's Swing Jimmy Smith

Bluesmith Jimmy Smith

Soul Brotherhood Charles Kynard

Alligator Boogaloo Lou Donaldson

Turning Point Lonnie Smith

Think Lonnie Smith

Prelude Eumir Deodato

Skyscrapers Eumir Deodato

Cherry Stanley Turrentine

Breakout Johnny Hammond Smith

Astrud Gilberto with Stanley Turrentine

Anything by CTI label!

Ronnie Foster Sweet Revival

Shirley Scott and the Soul Saxes

Heaven on Earth Larry Young

Dem NY Blues Don Patterson

Black Talk Charles Earland

Comin' On Home Richard Groove Holmes

Another Real Good Un Jack Mcduff

Soul Message Richard Groove Holmes

Mo Greens Please Freddie Roach

Organ Grinder's Swing Jimmy Smith

too many more left out.

[analogak]

i feel like it is cheating to list compilations (LOAJ for instance).

[analogak]

you know, because the albums didn't exist. like if you are choosing the top albums of the 1967-1972 era, choosing a compilation created in 1997 sort of doesn't seem to be pure.

[connoisseur series500]

you know, because the albums didn't exist. like if you are choosing the top albums of the 1967-1972 era, choosing a compilation created in 1997 sort of doesn't seem to be pure.

I understand what you are saying, but this isn't a scientific exercise here. Feel free to substitute any of Charles Kynard's cds for the Legends: Brotherhood of Soul, Professor of Soul, etc.

You can't really have a top ten. There are just too many to select, so perhaps we can bend the rules a little by listing 2-fers. I don't think Caesar Frazier fell into the time period either, but it's the type of music.

Where's your top 10? I'm sure you would agree that it is not easy to pick.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Very hard. Too hard. Got my list down to 20, then gave up.

Recording date order

Lou Donaldson - Alligator bogaloo - BN Apr 1967

Odell Brown & the Organizers - Mellow yellow - Cadet Apr 1967

Willis Jackson - Star bag - Prestige Mar 1968

Charles Kynard - Professor Soul - Prestige Aug 1968

Illinois Jacquet - The soul explosion - Prestige Mar 1969

Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss movement - Atlantic Jun 1969

Lonnie Smith - Live at Club Mozambique - BN May 1970

Grant Green - Alive - BN Aug 1970

David Newman - Captain buckles - Cotillion Nov 1970

Stanley Turrentine - Sugar - CTI Nov 1970

Rusty Bryant - Fire eater - Prestige Feb 1971

Blue Mitchell - Blue Mitchell (aka Soul village) - Mainstream Mar 1971

Sonny Stitt - Just the way it was: live at the Left Bank - Label M Mar 1971

Leon Spencer - Louisiana Slim - Prestige July 1971

David Newman & Roy Ayers - Lonely Avenue - Atlantic Nov 1971

Rusty Bryant - Friday night funk for Saturday night brothers - Prestige July 1972

Charles Earland - Live at the Lighthouse - Prestige Oct 1972

Gene Ammons - Big bad Jug - Prestige Oct & Nov 1972

Boogaloo Joe Jones - Snake rhythm rock - Prestige Nov 1972

Funk Inc - Hangin' out - Prestige Dec 1972

Of course, if I did this again next month, there'd be a few differences, I've no doubt.

If there was one only I could keep on a desert island, I think it would be the Sonny Stitt.

If the time went into 1973, Earland's "Leaving this planet" would be in there.

MG

[analogak]

Willis Jackson - Star bag - Prestige Mar 1968

Charles Kynard - Professor Soul - Prestige Aug 1968

David Newman - Captain buckles - Cotillion Nov 1970

Rusty Bryant - Fire eater - Prestige Feb 1971

Blue Mitchell - Blue Mitchell (aka Soul village) - Mainstream Mar 1971

Sonny Stitt - Just the way it was: live at the Left Bank - Label M Mar 1971

Leon Spencer - Louisiana Slim - Prestige July 1971

David Newman & Roy Ayers - Lonely Avenue - Atlantic Nov 1971

Rusty Bryant - Friday night funk for Saturday night brothers - Prestige July 1972

Charles Earland - Live at the Lighthouse - Prestige Oct 1972

Gene Ammons - Big bad Jug - Prestige Oct & Nov 1972

Boogaloo Joe Jones - Snake rhythm rock - Prestige Nov 1972

wow mg, these are all albums i considered on some level. and i have wanted to hear star bag. i assume it must be great. hopefully i will hear it soon. captain buckles is awesome but the cover of something kills it for me. snore.

[WorldB3]

off the top of my head. I know I am leaving off a couple obvious ones.

Grant Green - Alive

Grant Green - Carryin' On

Lou Donaldson - Alligator Bogaloo

Lou Donaldson - Mr. Shing-A-Ling

Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss movement

Lonnie Smith - Live at Club Mozambique

John Patton - That Certain Feeling

John Patton - Accent On The Blues

Edited March 8, 2008 by WorldB3

[analogak]

off the top of my head-

groove holmes-onsaya joy (a little late but whatever)

groove holmes/jimmy mcgriff-giants of the organ in concert

jimmy mcgriff-stump juice

lamont johnson-sun, stars and moon

lou donaldson-cosmos

rusty bryant-fire eater

leon spencer-where i'm coming from

jack mcduff-moon rappin'

jack mcduff-the heatin' system (cadet one, not later one)

johnny lytle-people & love

ugh but i miss charles earland then..i will redo but i guess i would either put charles earland live at the lighthouse or dynamite brothers though i totally agree with connosaur that the albums with billy cobham are awesome! maybe soul story...i will be back.

Edited March 8, 2008 by dumpy mama

[Chuck Nessa]

[connoisseur series500]

jack mcduff-the heatin' system (cadet one, not later one)

This is very good. Has it been issued in cd form?

[analogak]

conn-sore check out your favorite online retailer

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

groove holmes-onsaya joy (a little late but whatever)

Haven't got this, but I've noted what you've been saying in the past weeks. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen this LP anywhere.

lamont johnson-sun, stars and moon

Never heard of this one! Lamont Johnson was on Mobley's "Reach out". Didn't know he'd recorded as a leader.

More please, Mama.

jack mcduff-the heatin' system (cadet one, not later one)

One that's on my list to get.

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

off the top of my head. I know I am leaving off a couple obvious ones.

Grant Green - Alive

Grant Green - Carryin' On

Lou Donaldson - Alligator Bogaloo

Lou Donaldson - Mr. Shing-A-Ling

Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss movement

Lonnie Smith - Live at Club Mozambique

Grant Green - Alive

John Patton - That Certain Feeling

John Patton - Accent On The Blues

I see you REALLY like GG's "Alive"

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

conn-sore check out your favorite online retailer

I did't know that, either. Thanks.

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Yeah, OK, young sir. We don't mind you slumming.

MG

[WorldB3]

I see you REALLY like GG's "Alive"

MG

My list isn't really in order but like you Grant is one of my all time favorite artists and I can listen to Grant soloing over Idris drumbeats till the cows come home. Grant's Live at Club Mozambique isn't the greatest thing in the world but those moments on it where Idris and Grant are locked into each other is heavenly.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I see you REALLY like GG's "Alive"

MG

My list isn't really in order but like you Grant is one of my all time favorite artists and I can listen to Grant soloing over Idris drumbeats till the cows come home. Grant's Live at Club Mozambique isn't the greatest thing in the world but those moments on it where Idris and Grant are locked into each other is heavenly.

What I meant is, you put it in twice!

So you have a spare place to give the album of your choice!

MG

[WorldB3]

I see you REALLY like GG's "Alive"

MG

My list isn't really in order but like you Grant is one of my all time favorite artists and I can listen to Grant soloing over Idris drumbeats till the cows come home. Grant's Live at Club Mozambique isn't the greatest thing in the world but those moments on it where Idris and Grant are locked into each other is heavenly.

What I meant is, you put it in twice!

So you have a spare place to give the album of your choice!

MG

oops.. damn, Im getting old.

[danasgoodstuff]

See the Hot Dog thread for my list, I love Got a Good Thing Going but it's too early ('66) and in a different groove for me. Leo/Idris/Egregious is indeed totally 'bad in a good way'. Can any one tell me 'bour Jimmy Lewis who played bass on many of these sessions.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

See the Hot Dog thread for my list, I love Got a Good Thing Going but it's too early ('66) and in a different groove for me. Leo/Idris/Egregious is indeed totally 'bad in a good way'. Can any one tell me 'bour Jimmy Lewis who played bass on many of these sessions.

A little bit. Lewis was an ex-Ellington man. Then he joined the King Curtis band in the early sixties. That may have been when he got in with Prestige, for whom Curtis was recording then.

MG

[analogak]

i always thought jimmy lewis was really boring and uninteresting.

the better sessions in this genre had other guys or no one on bass, imo (besides leon spencer, for instance). jerry jemott and gordon edwards being examples of more interesting e-bassists.

though i guess ron carter sounds good on some of the CTI stuff.

but jimmy lewis is a sign of blah to me.

i don't actually know anything about him besides he is really not interesting, though. it is like he was the only bassist at that time playing the e-bass or something. i mean i know that isn't really true, but in my head i picture rudy van G or bob porter or ozzie cadena or whomever being like "oh we need an electric bassist for this session? who can we call? oh, jimmy lewis is the only guy in new york who can play electric bass? really? damn ok give him a call." and then lewis would come and play the most boring safe bass possible (he is a little better on "dirty grape" and "soul flowers", imo.)

but really, most organists on those sessions could play more interesting bass than him.

i guess it was early in the whole thing and maybe the role of the bassist hadn't really been defined in the soul jazz groups? so he was just sort of holding it down? maybe it was just the fault of him being a progenitor of a more interesting and active role of the bassist in soul jazz? he came along too early?

but even like when i listen to george duvivier, who was an old school guy, playing acoustic bass on some of those prestige soul sessions, he is movin' way way better than jimmy lewis. yuck.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

You're right, Mama. Duvivier was, I think, on "Sweet buns & barbecue" and the title track is a killer largely because of him.

Leroy Vinnegar on some of those Les McCann Atlantics

Chuck Rainey, with Dupree & Tee & Purdie

Marvin Bronson also made a good feeling

but most of all

Wilbur Bascombe

MG

[analogak]

gary king could move also. i wish he was on more stuff. but he more came on as the music was already moving into less interesting things like disco beatz and rocked guitars. the bassist could add a lot on these sessions, but jimmy lewis didn't add much of anything, imo.