Teddy Weatherford 78s on eBay

[Brownian Motion]

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Is anyone familiar with these scarce sides? Have they ever been reissued, on CD or vinyl? Does anyone know the extent of Weatherford's recording activity in India?

[AllenLowe]

somewhere I have an LP with Weatherford piano solos, and they may be the things that are on the 78s - interesting stuff, the work of a pianist who, once ahead of his time, was now a little behind the times - but still a terrific musician (and an early influence on Earl Hines) - I also think that my Devilin Tune set has one of these - will have to take a look later in the week -

[Chuck Nessa]

Here is the deal on Weatherford:

Teddy Weatherford (p) solo

Paris, June 23, 1937

OLA1876-1 I ain't got nobody Swing (F)58, Pathé (F)C054-16021, (F)

1552561

OLA1877-1 Tea for two Swing (F)5, Jazum 9, Par (E)PMC7118,

Pathé (F)C054-16021, (F)1552561

OLA1877-2 Tea for two (unissued)

OLA1878-1 Weather blues (*) Swing (F)315, Pathé (F)1552561

OLA1878-2 Weather beaten blues (*) (F)5, Jazum 9, Pathé (F)1552561,

(F)C054-16021

OLA1879-1 Maple leaf rag (unissued)

OLA1879-2 Maple leaf rag Swing (F)315, Par (E)PMC7118, Pathé (F)

C054-16021, (F)1552461

Note : (*) "Weather blues" on Swing 315 and "Weather beaten blues" on Swing 5 are drawn from two different

masters despite bearing the same matrix OLA1878-2 in the wax. Swing 5 is take 2 while s-Swing 315 is

most likely take 1. Pathé (F)1552561 entitled "Le Jazz en France, Vol. 10 : Piano & Swing (Tome 1),

see next session and also under Garland Wilson and Garnett Clark.

Paris, July 20, 1937

OLA1918-1 My blue heaven Swing (F)38, Pathé (F)1552561

OLA1919-1 Ain't misbehavin' - , - , Franklin

Mint 77

Teddy Weatherford (p) solo, Paquita (rn. Myrtle Watkins) (vcl) on some of the medley pieces

Calcutta, India, September 1941

CEI22014-2 Medley : You stepped out of a dream (intro) Col (In)FB40067

Boa noite

I yi yi yi yi

CEI22015-2 Medley : Who -

Moon over Burma

Minnie from Trinidad

Teddy Weatherford and his Band : George Banks, Bill McDermott (tp) George Leonardi (tb) Reuben Soloman

(as,cl) Sonny Saldana (reeds) Teddy Weatherford (p,vcl) Cedric West (g,tb) Tony Gonsalves (b) Trevor McCabe

(d) Paquita (vcl)

Calcutta, October 1941

CEI22025-1 I take to you (p vcl) Col (In)FB40070

CEI22026-1 I've got a bone to pick up with you (p vcl) -

Note : Paquita appears on the label as Pepita.

Teddy Weatherford and his Boys : prob same or similar pers

Calcutta, c. November 1941

Lady be good Col (In)FB40099

St. Louis blues -

Teddy Weatherford at the Piano : Teddy Weatherford (p) Basil Evans (b) Trevor McCabe (d)

Calcutta, c. May 1942

CEI22063-1 Birth of the blues Col (In)FB40164, Jazum 9

CEI22064-1 Darktown strutters' ball - , -

Basil & McCabe out

Calcutta, c. May 1942

CEI22070-1 Medley : I know why Col (In)FB40174, Jazum 9

Dolores

You started something

CEI22071-1 Medley : The last time I saw Paris (*) - , -

In Waikiki (*)

Kiss the boys goodbye (*)

Note : (*) This medley on Harlequin (E)HQ2013 entitled "Jazz and Hot Dance in India, Volume Four", see

following sessions for more titles. Jazum 9 untitled and for 2 more titles on this LP dedicated

to Weatherford see Joe Sullivan and Buck Washington (one title each).

Teddy Weatherford and his Band : George Banks, Bill McDermott (tp) George Leonardi (tb) Reuben Soloman (as,

cl) Sonny Saldana (reeds) Cedric West (g,tb) Tony Gonsalves (b) Trevor McCabe (d) Teddy Weatherford (p,vcl)

Paquita (vcl)

Calcutta, c. June 1942

CEI22110-1 How about you ? (tw vcl) Col (In)FB40172

CEI22111-1 Hoe down (tw vcl) -

Teddy Weatherford at the Piano ; Teddy Weatherford (p,vcl) Tony Gonsalves (b) Jimmy Smith (d)

Calcutta, c. August 1942

CEI22182-1 Blues in the night (tw vcl) Col (In)FB40220, Jazum 9

CEI22183-1 Basin Street blues (tw vcl) (In)FB40225, -

CEI22184-1 Memphis blues - , -

CEI22185-1 St. Louis blues (tw vcl) (In)FB40220, -

Note : The abov session on Harlequin (E)HQ2013.

All Star Swing Band : prob pers. George Banks (tp) Reuben Soloman (cl) Roy Butler (ts) Teddy Weatherford

(p) Cedric West (g,tb) Tony Gonsalves (b) Jimmy Smith (d) Nester West (vcl) prob. Sonny Gill (vcl,sax)

Calcutta, August 1942

CEI22186 Always (nw vcl) Col (In)FB40221

CEI22187 I remember you (nw vcl) -

CEI22188-1 One dozen roses (nw vcl) (In)FB40226, Harlequin (E)HQ2013

CEI22189-1 Jealous (nw vcl) -

Calcutta, September 1942

White Christmas (sg vcl) Col (In)FB40229

Be careful it's my heart (nw vcl) -

CEI22199-1 Here you are (nw vcl) (In)FB40230

CEI22200-1 The pity of it all (sg vcl) -

CEI22201-1 My gal Sal (nw vcl,*) (In)FB40231

CEI22202-1 The last call for love (nw vcl,*) -

Note : (*) These 2 titles as by Reuben Soloman and his Jive Boys.

Teddy Weatherford and his Band : George Banks, Bill McDermott, Pat Blake (tp) George Leonardi (tb) Reuben

Soloman, Paul Gonsalves (as,cl) Roy Butler, Ruby Cotton (ts) Teddy Weatherford (p,vcl) Cedric West (g,tb)

Tony Gonsalves (b) Jimmy Smith (d) Kitty Walker (vcl)

Calcutta, c. May 1943

CEI22342-1 The lady who didn't believe in love (rw vcl) Col (In)FB40315, Harlequin (E)HQ2013

CEI22344-1 Out of this world (kw vcl) - , -

Three dreams ( vcl) (In)FB40316

Cabin in the sky ( vcl) -

Diane Withburn, Bill McDermott (vcl), rest same

Calcutta, September 1943

CEI22522-1 Stormy weather (dw vcl) Col (In)FB40346

CEI22523-1 There's no two way about love (bmd vcl) -

Bob Lee (rn Bob Merrill)(vcl) The Hudson Sisters (vcl)

Calcutta, January/February 1944

CEI22664-1 Blue rain (bl,ths vcl) Col (In)FB40368

CEI22665-1 So long, Sarah Jane (ths vcl) (In)FB40356, Harlequin (E)HQ2013

CEI22666-1 Star eyes (bl vcl) -

CEI22667-1 Hello America, hello (bl,ths vcl) (In)FB40368

Teddy Weatherford and his Band : George Banks, Bill McDermott, Pat Blake (tp) unknown (tb) Cedric West (tb,

g) Reuben Soloman, Paul Gonsalves (cl,as) Roy Butler, Rudy Cotton (ts) Teddy Weatherford (p) unknown (g)

Tony Gonsalves (b) Jimmy Smith (d) Bridgette Moore (vcl)

Calcutta, c. May 1944

CEI22808-1 Ice cold Katie (bm vcl) Col (In)FB40396, Harlequin (E)HQ2013

Frank J. Oxford (vcl) acc by Teddy Weatherford and his Band : Teddy Weatherford (p) Tony Gonsalves (b)

Jimmy Smith (d)

Calcutta, c. February 1945

CEI23698-1 Don't be a talkie fjo vcl) Col (In)FB40377, Harlequin (E)HQ2013

[AllenLowe]

Tea for Two and I Ain't Got Nobody are definitely on my LP -

[Ted O'Reilly]

Is the as/cl player "Paul Gonsalves" noted in the Calcutta sessions post-c. May 1943 the same Paul Gonsalves of later Basie/Ellington fame? (Lord discography indicates it is).

I know he did military service in WW2 -- was he in India, doing some playing on the side?

And does anyone know if Paul was related to the bassist on these sessions, Tony Gonsalves?

[jazztrain]

Apparently not the same Paul Gonsalves according to information in:

Jazz in India: Perspectives on Historical Development and Musical Acculturation

Warren R. Pinckney, Jr.

Asian Music, Vol. 21, No. 1 (Autumn, 1989 - Winter, 1990), pp. 35-77

That source states: "Several other Goan musicians, including bassist Tony Gonsalves and saxophonists Paul Gonsalves (not the same Paul Gonsalves who joined Duke Ellington's band in 1951) and Rudy Cottton, recorded with Indian swing bands in the 1930s and 1940s."

  Ted O said:

Is the as/cl player "Paul Gonsalves" noted in the Calcutta sessions post-c. May 1943 the same Paul Gonsalves of later Basie/Ellington fame? (Lord discography indicates it is).

I know he did military service in WW2 -- was he in India, doing some playing on the side?

And does anyone know if Paul was related to the bassist on these sessions, Tony Gonsalves?

[Idiom59]

You are indeed correct Ted. Paul Gonsalves did serve in India during WW2 and was on the sessions in question.A friend of mine,who has recently died,told me that while he (my friend) was serving in Calcutta with the RAF Paul would sit in with the Weatherford band at the hotel gig they had. Years later when Ellington came to Europe my friend managed to speak to Paul and reminded him of his Indian service,which Paul,apparently, recalled with great affection.

Edited November 3, 2008 by Idiom59

[Rooster_Ties]

  Chuck Nessa said:

Here is the deal on Weatherford:

Just wanted to say a big thanks to Chuck for all the technical info he provides around here (like above).

I know he's not the only one (so ALL of you who do, also deserve such thanks), but I especially wanted to say that for whatever few times Chuck says "did you ever think of buying your own discography??" -- WAY more often than not, Chuck comes through with the info, with nary a sour word.

Thanks Chuck! I think probably a LOT of us around here really appreciate it.

[AllenLowe]

actually, he made up all that stuff -