New ESP re-issues

[AndrewHill]

Definitely buying the Grimes!

Nice to see the Logan back in print. I think the Calibre from 2000 was the last pressing.

Edited May 17, 2008 by Holy Ghost

[AllenLowe]

hope they have the Marzette Watts - Paris Hilton told me that was her favorite -

[dova]

Don't own much on ESP and just ordered from the ESP web site. Ordered Paul Bley's Barrage, Sonny Murray, Henry Grimes,Frank Wright, Ayler's :Spiritual Unity,Frank Lowe: Black Beginnings, Lowell Davidson Trio, James Zitro and Giuseppi Logan Quartet. Should be plenty of High Energy Free music for a while. Anybody have any of these or others in the remastered series you want to talk about?

Edited November 10, 2008 by dova

[AndrewHill]

Don't own much on ESP and just ordered from the ESP web site. Ordered Paul Bley's Barrage, Sonny Murray, Henry Grimes,Frank Wright, Ayler's :Spiritual Unity,Frank Lowe: Black Beginnings, Lowell Davidson Trio, James Zitro and Giuseppi Logan Quartet. Should be plenty of High Energy Free music for a while. Anybody have any of these or others in the remastered series you want to talk about?

Of the ones you mention, I bought the remastered Grimes, Wright and Lowe. The Grimes, to these ears, sounds great with Grimes up front and sounding very prominent. I bought the Lowe because of the extra material, so I disregarded earlier editions for that reason alone. Again, sound is very good to these ears and its interesting to hear William Parker early in his career. I also found the Wright sounding really good, but my only gripe is that they didn't reissue this material with the original artwork. The album cover for 'Your Prayer' is absolutely badazz.

Overall, I've been pretty pleased with the new reissue program, I just really don't like it when they don't reissue the original cover art, as they redesigned the Murray, Burton, Wright and Ayler's Spirits Rejoice for instance. The original ESP artwork is some of the coolest around and shouldn't be messed with, IMO.

[clifford_thornton]

Yeah, some of the cover art stinks on these reissues and at least with the Murray they f'ed up the track order... I mean, all this material should be on CD and done properly, in print for the foreseeable future and with good sound (sound is better than LP on some, worse on others).

Extra material is nice when they have it - I appreciate the extended Lowe, for example, and the proper arrangement of the first Marion Brown.

The new issues are hit-or-miss; I like the Yugunaut and Jugendstil a lot.

[AndrewHill]

See some new ESP reissues are slated for 4/1. Here are the ones that caught my attention:

Ronnie Boykins The Will Come, Is Now

http://espdisk.com/official/catalog/3026.html

But its the Sun Ra that really raised my curosity: Sun Ra featuring Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold

http://espdisk.com/official/catalog/4054.html

Was this an original ESP date or is this something else. ESP indicates it wasn't released until 1976...does anyone have any further details?

Thanks!

HG`

[clifford_thornton]

Great that they are putting the Ra/Black Harold/Pharoah thing. It was issued as a Saturn LP.

[AndrewHill]

Great that they are putting the Ra/Black Harold/Pharoah thing. It was issued as a Saturn LP.

Thanks for that! Did Ra hold on to the tapes for over 10 years and released it on Saturn in 1976? Do you know perhaps how Stollman got hold of the tapes? Marshall Allen maybe?

[clifford_thornton]

No idea there...

Edit to add that Saturn's issuing of LPs did not exactly follow band chronology.

Edited March 27, 2009 by clifford_thornton

[jostber]

Sessions info:

Personnel: Sun Ra (keyboard); Art Jenkins (vocals); Black Harold (flute, percussion); Robert Cummings (bass clarinet); Danny Davis , Marshall Allen, Pat Patrick (saxophone); Pharoah Sanders (tenor saxophone); Al Evans (trumpet, flugelhorn); Chris Capers (trumpet); Teddy Nance (trombone); Bernard Pettaway (bass trombone); Alan Silva (bass guitar); Clifford Jarvis (drums).

Catalogue Number: Saturn IHNY 165. Recorded at Judson Hall, New York on December 31, 1964.

This have more songs than the original release:

1. Cosmic Interpretation

2. The Other World

3. The Second Star is Jupiter

4. The Now Tomorrow

5. Discipline 9

6. Gods on a Safari

7. The World Shadow

8. Rocket Number 9

9. The Voice of Pan

10. Dawn Over Israel

11. Space Mates

http://www.espdisk.com/official/catalog/4054.html

[jazzbo]

This is pretty well pre-order priced at CDUniverse.

[AndrewHill]

On the ESP website, there are two new reissues listed:

Charles Tyler Ensemble

Revolutionary Ensemble

The Tyler's amazing, never heard the other one.

[jazzbo]

It's darned fine.

[Head Man]

It's darned fine.

......but not as fine as their album 'The Peoples' Republic' on A&M! Now when is that ever going to get a CD re-issue?

[jazzbo]

Hmmmmm. . . haven't heard that one. I'll look forward to the "Verve Original." (Yeah, right.)

[ep1str0phy]

On the ESP website, there are two new reissues listed:

Charles Tyler Ensemble

Revolutionary Ensemble

The Tyler's amazing, never heard the other one.

I think that these are two of my favorite ESPs. Probably won't happen, but I do hope there's something to amend to that Charles Tyler album... what's there is fantastic.

I go back and forth between Vietnam and The People's Republic, but I think the former may have more "gravitas" (whatever that means).

[AndrewHill]

Marion Brown's Why Not is being reissued. Looking forward to this one for a while!

[felser]

Any thoughts/info on Noah Howard at Judson Hall? Has never been on CD as far as I know, and that's the ESP I'd really like to see get reissued.

[brownie]

Noah Howard at Judson Hall is excellent! One of the best ESP from that glorious era.

Howard was a distinctive voice in the group of outstanding alto players (Jimmy Lyons, Charles Tyler, Marion Brown among others) that came on the scene then. For his second album on ESP he assembled a very together unit with Ric Colbeck on trumpet (he was also excellent on Howard's first ESP album). Ric and Noah played their heart out through the date with superlative support from Dave Burrell, Cathy Norris and Bobby Kapp.

I still have the test pressing (no cover) of the session I got from Bernard Stollman just before its official release. If anybody has a spare cover of this album, please PM me.

[jazzbo]

Any thoughts/info on Noah Howard at Judson Hall? Has never been on CD as far as I know, and that's the ESP I'd really like to see get reissued.

This was part of the 'nineties ESP releases from XYZ. Nice date.

[felser]

anyone know where I can get the Howard disc at a decent price? Don't see it on Amazon Marketplace at all.

[Matthew]

I only know of Bob James through his CTI days, so I was interested in finding out that he recorded an album for ESP: Explosions. Any thought on this album? Worth looking into? Hard to believe James as an avant-garde artist.

[JETman]

I only know of Bob James through his CTI days, so I was interested in finding out that he recorded an album for ESP: Explosions. Any thought on this album? Worth looking into? Hard to believe James as an avant-garde artist.

Definitely different, but worth checking out IMHO.

[felser]

It's a really strange album, even by ESP-Disk standards. forget everything you think you know about him when approaching this one.

[Matthew]

Hmmmm, now I'm interested in getting it, thanks.