Late 1960s post-bop

[milestones20]

With Christmas comes the inevitable iTunes gift card...now I need help figuring out what to spend it on.

I've been listening to a lot of late 1960s advanced hard-bop kind of stuff...Stanley Cowell's "Brilliant Circles," Bobby Hutcherson's "Total Eclipse," Charles Tolliver Music Inc. stuff...is there anything you guys would suggest that I may have overlooked?

[Chas]

No late sixties advanced hard-bop collection is complete without Chick Corea's Tones For Joan's Bones . :tup

[Niko]

probably you haven't overlooked

Jackie McLean's Demon's Dance

but just in case...; easier to overlook and equally essential

Sonny Simmons Complete ESP Recordings

available at great prices right now and really not more advanced than advanced hard bop

[michel1969]

Booker Ervin : "The in between"(superb !)

Frank Foster : "Manhattan Fever"

Lee Morgan "The Sixth Sense"

"Live at the Lighthouse"

[randyhersom]

Bobby Hutcherson - Dialogue

Dave Holland - Conference of the Birds

for Lee, Lighthouse and Last Session seem more germane, but I am sneaking into the 70's, aren't I.

[sidewinder]

and Tyrone Washington 'The Natural Essence'..

[Guest Bill Barton]

For starters:

Woody Shaw (his first two on Muse and Blackstone Legacy on Contemporary)

Joe Henderson - The Kicker

" " - Four!

Sam Rivers - Fuchsia Swing Song

" " - Contours

Pete LaRoca - Turkish Women at the Bath (there's some killer John Gilmore on this album - his solo on "Love Planet" ranks way up there on my "all time favorite solos" list)

[sidewinder]

add in there also Grachan Moncur's two Blue Notes ('Evolution' and 'Some Other Stuff' - the latter being a bit more avant-garde) and Tony Williams' 'Lifetime' and 'Spring'.

[JSngry]

Max Roach.

[Kyo]

but just in case...; easier to overlook and equally essential

Sonny Simmons Complete ESP Recordings

available at great prices right now and really not more advanced than advanced hard bop

Thanks for the recommendation, I had forgotten about that one and found

a new copy for a ridiculously low price right after I read this thread.

More recommendations from me, maybe from not quite as late into the 60s but still great:

Booker Ervin - The Freedom Book, The Space Book, The Trance, Setting the Pace (with Dexter Gordon)

Everything in the Grachan Moncur Mosaic Select

And obviously most of those Andrew Hill Blue Note sessions.

[milestones20]

Thanks to all for suggestions. I already had a lot of that stuff, but was able to get lucky and find a copy of Natural Essence...whoo boy, that was a good choice!

[marcello]

Edited January 6, 2008 by marcello

[sal]

Not sure if I would catagorize Andrew Hill as "late 60s advanced hard bop", but "Dance With Death" and "Passing Ships" are two of my favorite "advanced" jazz recordings from the era.

[Morganized]

Not sure if I would catagorize Andrew Hill as "late 60s advanced hard bop", but "Dance With Death" and "Passing Ships" are two of my favorite "advanced" jazz recordings from the era.

I agree that semantics becomes a little bit of a problem here. I don't know that I would include Moncur either in that category but all of the above mentioned titles are excellent. Some a little more outside than others however.

My choice... Herbie Hancock's "Speak Like A Child"

[JSngry]

Bill Barron on Savoy.

[BFrank]

Max Roach was mentioned earlier. Members Don't Get Weary is a "must have".

[Guest Bill Barton]

Bill Barron on Savoy.

A very enthusiastic "I second that motion" on the Barron Savoys!

[AndrewHill]

Bill Barron on Savoy.

A very enthusiastic "I second that motion" on the Barron Savoys!

Third it! Ted Curson is equally important on those sides. I have the 'Modern Windows Suite' reissue, which has seemingly gone out of print again.

[JSngry]

Thae most intense Barron Savoy is the one that's not been reissued (afaik) - Motivation from 1972.

Good GOD!

[AndrewHill]

I'd also recommend McLean's New and Old Gospel, since its now readily available again and also the not-so-easy-to-find 'Bout Soul; arguably his most 'out' date for the label.

[clifford_thornton]

Thae most intense Barron Savoy is the one that's not been reissued (afaik) - Motivation from 1972.

Good GOD!

That one is rare as fuck.

[Chuck Nessa]

That one is rare as fuck.

I'm sure many members have better luck.

[JSngry]

Thae most intense Barron Savoy is the one that's not been reissued (afaik) - Motivation from 1972.

Good GOD!

That one is rare as fuck.

And please don't think that I have an original or otherwise "real" copy", because I don't.

But it is a baaaaad motherfucker of a side, ain't it...

[John L]

A few others:

Jaki Byard

George Adams/Don Pullen

Arthur Blythe

Billy Harper

Randy Weston

Edited January 10, 2008 by John L

[BFrank]

I don't think Adams/Pullen, Arthur Blythe and Billy Harper could be considered late-60's post-bop. Billy might have shown up on a few recordings (Blakey, Gil Evans, etc.), but he is pretty much 70's and beyond.