Q. Jones Orchestra personnel, Europe 1960

[jtaylor]

The new Mosaic has the following personnel listed for a February 1960 session in Paris:

Lennie Johnson, Benny Bailey, Clark Terry, Floyd Standifer (tp), Jimmy Cleveland, Ake Persson, Melba Liston, Quentin Jackson (tb), Julius Watkins (Frh), Porter Kilbert, Phil Woods (as), Jerome Richardson, Budd Johnson (ts), Sahib Shihab (bari), Patti Bown (p), Les Spann (g, fl), Buddy Catlett (b), Joe Harris(d), Quincy Jones(arr, cond).

Barclay Studios, Paris, February 27,1960

Is it reasonable to assume that this same lineup was with Q when he backed up Nat Cole during his European tour in May 1960? If not, anyone have any further details?

Many thanks.

[ValerieB]

doesn't look like there are more than four of them still alive. yikes! great band though.

[Free For All]

If you liked that band, be sure to pick up the JazzIcon DVD of Quincy and the band in Belgium and Switzerland in 1960. Great stuff for the ages.

[brownie]

By May 1960, Clark Terry and Budd Johnson had returned to the States. The others stayed with Quincy Jones until he gave up trying to keep the band alive in Europe.

[sidewinder]

For the Switzerland performance on May 20th, Roger Guerin had replaced Clark Terry and there was no replacement for Budd Johnson (Julius Watkins relocated into the reed section).

[brownie]

there was no replacement for Budd Johnson

Budd Johnson was irreplaceable

[sidewinder]

there was no replacement for Budd Johnson

Budd Johnson was irreplaceable

Too true ! His performance on that Belgium concert was the highlight.

[Big Beat Steve]

If you think it would help I can check my 1960 issues of JAZZ HOT (France) and ESTRAD and ORKESTER JOURNALEN (Sweden) for any info they may have on the European tour of this band and the lineup.

[mikeweil]

Personnel for the June 27, 1960 concert at Lausanne, Switzerland (TCB Records 02012):

Benny Bailey, Roger Guérin, Clyde Reasinger, Floyd Standifer tp

Jimmy Cleveland, Ake Persson, Melba Liston, Quentin Jackson tb

Julius Watkins frh

Phil Woods, Porter Kilbert, Harold McNair, Jerome Richardson, Sahib Shihab reeds

Les Spann fl, g

Patti Bown p

Buddy Catlett b

Joe Harris d

This should be correct as it is the personnel Quincy announces ... seems Harold McNair from merry olde England "replaced" Budd Johnson ...

Edited November 15, 2007 by mikeweil

[mikeweil]

Wasn't there another live date released by Quincy himself on his Qwest label?

[Niko]

on phil woods homepage under

http://www.philwoods.com/disco/data3.php#

there is some more info (click on the album covers for details, always the same lineup), don't know how reliable that is...

[jtaylor]

Thanks everybody for the responses. It all helps.

[JSngry]

Wasn't there another live date released by Quincy himself on his Qwest label?

Indeed, and it is superb.

[jlhoots]

If you liked that band, be sure to pick up the JazzIcon DVD of Quincy and the band in Belgium and Switzerland in 1960. Great stuff for the ages.

Excellent DVD indeed.

[Big Beat Steve]

Personnel for the June 27, 1960 concert at Lausanne, Switzerland (TCB Records 02012):

Benny Bailey, Roger Guérin, Clyde Reasinger, Floyd Standifer tp

Jimmy Cleveland, Ake Persson, Melba Liston, Quentin Jackson tb

Julius Watkins frh

Phil Woods, Porter Kilbert, Harold McNair, Jerome Richardson, Sahib Shihab reeds

Les Spann fl, g

Patti Bown p

Buddy Catlett b

Joe Harris d

This should be correct as it is the personnel Quincy announces ... seems Harold McNair from merry olde England "replaced" Budd Johnson ...

To round off the picture, I just found a review of the first concert of Quincy's summer Sweden tour (that followed the Swiss gig and lasted all through July 1960) in ORKESTER JOURNALEN. It says at this opening concert in Gävle on July 2, 1960 they still were looking for a replacement for Budd Johnson; no mention of Harold McNair's presence, and they said offers had been made to Lucky Thompson and Zoot Simes (both in Europe at that time) to step in. Also, Ake Persson had to stay behind in Stockholm for private reasons; his place was taken by Gordon Olsson (who had already been in Harry Arnold's 1958 band playing Quincy's arrangements).

Re- Quincy backing Nat King Cole in April/May:

The May 1960 issue of Orkester Journalen carried a review of the Quincy Jones/Nat Cole concert on 26 April in Stockholm. From the solists named, the line-up reads like the one in the first post but the review says when Nat King Cole came on (after Quincy's band had played a set of their own) some reshuffling took place among the musicians: Lead trumpet was played by Irving Busch and the rhythm section now included John Collins (g), Charles Harris (b), and Lee Young (dr). Nat Cole played some piano himself. Also, a five-piece string section consisting of French musicians was brought on.

Don't know if those changes of personnel happened during the entire tour, though.

Edited November 15, 2007 by Big Beat Steve

[jtaylor]

Re- Quincy backing Nat King Cole in April/May:

The May 1960 issue of Orkester Journalen carried a review of the Quincy Jones/Nat Cole concert on 26 April in Stockholm. From the solists named, the line-up reads like the one in the first post but the review says when Nat King Cole came on (after Quincy's band had played a set of their own) some reshuffling took place among the musicians: Lead trumpet was played by Irving Busch and the rhythm section now included John Collins (g), Charles Harris (b), and Lee Young (dr). Nat Cole played some piano himself. Also, a five-piece string section consisting of French musicians was brought on.

Don't know if those changes of personnel happened during the entire tour, though.

Big Beat-

Thank you for this!

Bush, Collins, Harris, and Young were all Cole's personal musicians. They would have only played during Nat's set.

Your magazine doesn't list any other engagements, does it?

Edited November 16, 2007 by jtaylor

[brownie]

Domino has released a 4CD set with all the live material from the 1960 European tour:

Quincy Jones Complete 1960 European Concerts

It includes the Paris, Belgium, Gothenburg and Lausanne concerts.

[mikeweil]

So the material from the Qwest CD is included? I could be tempted then ...

[JSngry]

That Qwest CD is the shazzitt.

[Claude Schlouch]

Yes, the Qwest material is included.

Wonderful box set from Spain!

Edited February 4, 2011 by Claude Schlouch

[mikeweil]

Found a new copy for a little more than 20 bucks ...

[mikeweil]

That deal is even better as the copy of the Lausanne concert I have is a CDR a friend gave me ..

[king ubu]

(Julius Watkins relocated into the reed section).

He pulled an Eddie who?

(playing french horn with a sax mouthpiece?)

Or what?

[Ted O'Reilly]

(Julius Watkins relocated into the reed section).

He pulled an Eddie who?

(playing french horn with a sax mouthpiece?)

Or what?

You're thinking of Eddie Harris, right? Played a trumpet with a sax mouthpiece...

I think Watkins simply played the tenor part on the horn. I remember a period when Duke Ellington had two trombones and six reeds, so Norris Turney went into the trombone section and played a trombone part. These guys are good enough to transpose on sight...

[king ubu]

(Julius Watkins relocated into the reed section).

He pulled an Eddie who?

(playing french horn with a sax mouthpiece?)

Or what?

You're thinking of Eddie Harris, right? Played a trumpet with a sax mouthpiece...

I think Watkins simply played the tenor part on the horn. I remember a period when Duke Ellington had two trombones and six reeds, so Norris Turney went into the trombone section and played a trombone part. These guys are good enough to transpose on sight...

Yes... I didn't think of that much simpler way to understand sidewinder's post... but makes much more sense of course!