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[alocispepraluger102]

have adventurous jazz musicians recently been targeted for extra government scrutiny, solely based on their music? i suspect many have.

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Terr...agewanted=print

Edited November 11, 2007 by alocispepraluger102

[AndrewHill]

have adventurous jazz musicians recently been targeted for extra government scrutiny, solely based on their music? i suspect many have.

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Terr...agewanted=print

It may have been the 60's, but I don't have the resource to verify it. I believe the same thing happened to Ornette Coleman. From what I remember reading from somewhere, he was "paid" or "told" to sit out a couple of years (somewhere between '63 and '66; The Empty Foxhole was his first studio album in years) by thugs who may have been hired by the major labels because artists like Coleman and Taylor were taking a chunk of the business away from the commerical acts. Again, no way I can verify the story, just remember reading it and I could have it wrong. Does anyone know if that actually happened or not? I think Sunny Murray was also targeted, which he talked about in an interview he gave awhile back. I think the other stories came from an article I read about the BYG/Actuel label and their dealings, but I'm not sure.

[Matthew]

have adventurous jazz musicians recently been targeted for extra government scrutiny, solely based on their music? i suspect many have.

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Terr...agewanted=print

have adventurous jazz musicians recently been targeted for extra government scrutiny, solely based on their music? i suspect many have.

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Terr...agewanted=print

It may have been the 60's, but I don't have the resource to verify it. I believe the same thing happened to Ornette Coleman. From what I remember reading from somewhere, he was "paid" or "told" to sit out a couple of years (somewhere between '63 and '66; The Empty Foxhole was his first studio album in years) by thugs who may have been hired by the major labels because artists like Coleman and Taylor were taking a chunk of the business away from the commerical acts. Again, no way I can verify the story, just remember reading it and I could have it wrong. Does anyone know if that actually happened or not? I think Sunny Murray was also targeted, which he talked about in an interview he gave awhile back. I think the other stories came from an article I read about the BYG/Actuel label and their dealings, but I'm not sure.

Further comment/information would be greatly appreciated... I've never heard either of those stories.

[MoGrubb]

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Further comment/information would be greatly appreciated... I've never heard either of those stories.

Me neither. Anything's possible, but it's kinda hard to believe.

[brownie]

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

Doubt this ever happened!

[Tom Storer]

have adventurous jazz musicians recently been targeted for extra government scrutiny, solely based on their music? i suspect many have.

The government doesn't give a damn about "adventurous music". If they're going to target anyone for scrutiny it will be for political reasons.

do i recall reading that cecil taylor's hands were broken in the 50's?

By the government? Were the jazz police part of the government then?

It may have been the 60's, but I don't have the resource to verify it. I believe the same thing happened to Ornette Coleman. From what I remember reading from somewhere, he was "paid" or "told" to sit out a couple of years (somewhere between '63 and '66; The Empty Foxhole was his first studio album in years) by thugs who may have been hired by the major labels because artists like Coleman and Taylor were taking a chunk of the business away from the commerical acts. Again, no way I can verify the story, just remember reading it and I could have it wrong. Does anyone know if that actually happened or not?

Coleman apparently didn't record between Dec. 1962 and June 1965, but I don't think commercial acts were particularly worried by avant-garde jazz at the time. "BEATLES CONCERT A FLOP; ORNETTE COLEMAN PACKS SHEA STADIUM." Nah, I don't see it.

Edited November 11, 2007 by Tom Storer