Milt Jackson - where next?

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Almost the first jazz albums I bought were by the MJQ. But I got bored by most of their stuff after a bit. That kind of put me off Milt Jackson.

It took Ray Charles to bring me back to the realisation that Milt was a peculiar kind of bebopper - like Sonny Stitt, he made a lot of Soul Jazz style albums. But whereas it's easy enough to track down Sonny's excursions into Soul Jazz, it's not so easy with Milt. So I'm looking for a bit of help here.

This is what I've got.

(With Ray Charles) Soul brothers & Soul meeting

(With Cannonball Adderley) Things are gettin' better

(With Stanley Turrentine) Cherry

(With Wes Montgomery) Bags & Wes

(With Sonny Stitt) In the beginning

by himself

At the Kosei Nenkin & Centerpiece at the Kosei Nenkin

Soul believer

Milt Jackson (BN LP)

Soul route

Night mist

Goodbye

Plenty plenty soul

Soul fusion

Live at the Village Gate

Plus, I've ordered "Milt Jackson and strings".

OK, so what else is in the same vein, that I can get? (I can't get the Impulse albums he made with Teddy Edwards, but I would if I could. There was also one with Hawkins on Atlantic that I can't get.)

Thanks folks.

MG

[Dan Gould]

If you don't have a problem with Oscar Peterson, you might look for some dates on Telearc by "The Very Tall Band". I haven't actually heard them but I would expect they are in the vein that you prefer.

Edit to say that I don't think the group is necessarily found under that name, they might be listed as OP records. I'd check Allmusic for any Telearc label releases under Milt, Oscar's or even Ray Brown's name.

Edited October 14, 2007 by Dan Gould

[Guy Berger]

His work with Monk -- under Monk's name, under Milt's name, and under Miles Davis's name -- is all essential. Not sure if that is what you are looking for, though.

Guy

[JSngry]

I think his 3 CTI dates are just dandy.

[Kalo]

His work with Monk -- under Monk's name, under Milt's name, and under Miles Davis's name -- is all essential. Not sure if that is what you are looking for, though.

Guy

Absolutely!

His Savoy stuff with Lucky Thompson is primo, too.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I think his 3 CTI dates are just dandy.

So I've got "Cherry" and "Goodbye" - is the other one "Sunflower"?

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

If you don't have a problem with Oscar Peterson, you might look for some dates on Telearc by "The Very Tall Band". I haven't actually heard them but I would expect they are in the vein that you prefer.

Edit to say that I don't think the group is necessarily found under that name, they might be listed as OP records. I'd check Allmusic for any Telearc label releases under Milt, Oscar's or even Ray Brown's name.

OP does put me off quite a lot of Milt's albums, I'm afraid. I can manage to avoid being bored on some occasions, but not as a rule.

MG

PS - did Milt make any other albums with Gene Harris?

Edited October 14, 2007 by The Magnificent Goldberg

[DMP]

"Sunflower," right. I like it, but it's pretty slick. The original "Very Tall" with Oscar Peterson (on Verve, reissued a couple of times on CD) is excellent. I also recently picked up the OJC of "Invitation" (Riverside), one that I'd somehow missed over the years, and it's also excellent.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

"Sunflower," right. I like it, but it's pretty slick. The original "Very Tall" with Oscar Peterson (on Verve, reissued a couple of times on CD) is excellent. I also recently picked up the OJC of "Invitation" (Riverside), one that I'd somehow missed over the years, and it's also excellent.

There's nothing about "Invitation" on Amazon UK - just the sleeve. Who's on it?

MG

[Peter Friedman]

Almost the first jazz albums I bought were by the MJQ. But I got bored by most of their stuff after a bit. That kind of put me off Milt Jackson.

It took Ray Charles to bring me back to the realisation that Milt was a peculiar kind of bebopper - like Sonny Stitt, he made a lot of Soul Jazz style albums. But whereas it's easy enough to track down Sonny's excursions into Soul Jazz, it's not so easy with Milt. So I'm looking for a bit of help here.

This is what I've got.

(With Ray Charles) Soul brothers & Soul meeting

(With Cannonball Adderley) Things are gettin' better

(With Stanley Turrentine) Cherry

(With Wes Montgomery) Bags & Wes

(With Sonny Stitt) In the beginning

by himself

At the Kosei Nenkin & Centerpiece at the Kosei Nenkin

Soul believer

Milt Jackson (BN LP)

Soul route

Night mist

Goodbye

Plenty plenty soul

Soul fusion

Live at the Village Gate

Plus, I've ordered "Milt Jackson and strings".

OK, so what else is in the same vein, that I can get? (I can't get the Impulse albums he made with Teddy Edwards, but I would if I could. There was also one with Hawkins on Atlantic that I can't get.)

Thanks folks.

MG

MG,

I envy you the opportunity to hear for the first time the many delightful Milt Jackson recordings you don't have. Here are quite a few under his leadership that I suspect you will find right up your alley.

Bag's Opus - Blue Note

The Harem - Musicmasters

Brother Jim - Pablo

It Don't Mean A Thing If You Can't Tap Your Foot To It - Pablo

London Bridge - Pablo

Memories Of Thelonious Sphere Monk - Pablo

Mostly Duke - Pablo

None of these have O.P. on them.

[Free For All]

There's nothing about "Invitation" on Amazon UK - just the sleeve. Who's on it?

Kenny Dorham, Virgil Jones- trumpet

Jimmy Heath-tenor

Tommy Flanagan- piano

Ron Carter- bass

Connie Kay-drums

Invitation

Too Close For Comfort

Ruby, My Dear (2 takes)

The Sealer

Poom-A-Loom

Stella By Starlight

Ruby

None Shall Wander (2 takes)

An excellent side, IMHO.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

MG,

I envy you the opportunity to hear for the first time the many delightful Milt Jackson recordings you don't have. Here are quite a few under his leadership that I suspect you will find right up your alley.

Bag's Opus - Blue Note

The Harem - Musicmasters

Brother Jim - Pablo

It Don't Mean A Thing If You Can't Tap Your Foot To It - Pablo

London Bridge - Pablo

Memories Of Thelonious Sphere Monk - Pablo

Mostly Duke - Pablo

None of these have O.P. on them.

Thanks Peter.

Is "Bags opus" a reissue of the material on BN BLP1509?

I assume "The harem" isn't available, if it's on Musicmasters.

I guess all the Pablo stuff is out on OJC - more OJCs for my list

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

There's nothing about "Invitation" on Amazon UK - just the sleeve. Who's on it?

Kenny Dorham, Virgil Jones- trumpet

Jimmy Heath-tenor

Tommy Flanagan- piano

Ron Carter- bass

Connie Kay-drums

Invitation

Too Close For Comfort

Ruby, My Dear (2 takes)

The Sealer

Poom-A-Loom

Stella By Starlight

Ruby

None Shall Wander (2 takes)

An excellent side, IMHO.

Aha! With Virgil Jones! Zowie!

Thanks.

MG

[JSngry]

I think his 3 CTI dates are just dandy.

So I've got "Cherry" and "Goodbye" - is the other one "Sunflower"?

MG

One. The other is Olinga.

Sunflower has the "dreaded" CTI production in full force, but for my money, it's one of, if not the tastiest/most musical example of it. Add to that the fact that everybody is playing at a very high level, and you got that somewhat rare bird - a "crossover" album chock full of top-shelf music.

Olinga is the exact opposite in terms of production, but again, everybody plays outstandingly.

Edited October 14, 2007 by JSngry

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I think his 3 CTI dates are just dandy.

So I've got "Cherry" and "Goodbye" - is the other one "Sunflower"?

MG

One. The other is Olinga.

Sunflower has the "dreaded" CTI production in full force, but for my money, it's one of, if not the tastiest/most musical example of it. Add to that the fact that everybody is playing at a very high level, and you got that somewhat rare bird - a "crossover" album chock full of top-shelf music.

Olinga is the exact opposite in terms of production, but again, everybody plays outstandingly.

Thanks Jim.

MG

[Free For All]

There's nothing about "Invitation" on Amazon UK - just the sleeve. Who's on it?

Kenny Dorham, Virgil Jones- trumpet

Jimmy Heath-tenor

Tommy Flanagan- piano

Ron Carter- bass

Connie Kay-drums

Invitation

Too Close For Comfort

Ruby, My Dear (2 takes)

The Sealer

Poom-A-Loom

Stella By Starlight

Ruby

None Shall Wander (2 takes)

An excellent side, IMHO.

Aha! With Virgil Jones! Zowie!

Thanks.

MG

FYI, Virgil plays on two cuts.

[BruceH]

His work with Monk -- under Monk's name, under Milt's name, and under Miles Davis's name -- is all essential. Not sure if that is what you are looking for, though.

Guy

Yes!

[BruceH]

His work with Monk -- under Monk's name, under Milt's name, and under Miles Davis's name -- is all essential. Not sure if that is what you are looking for, though.

Guy

Absolutely!

His Savoy stuff with Lucky Thompson is primo, too.

Double yes!!

[Peter Friedman]

MG,

I envy you the opportunity to hear for the first time the many delightful Milt Jackson recordings you don't have. Here are quite a few under his leadership that I suspect you will find right up your alley.

Bag's Opus - Blue Note

The Harem - Musicmasters

Brother Jim - Pablo

It Don't Mean A Thing If You Can't Tap Your Foot To It - Pablo

London Bridge - Pablo

Memories Of Thelonious Sphere Monk - Pablo

Mostly Duke - Pablo

None of these have O.P. on them.

Thanks Peter.

Is "Bags opus" a reissue of the material on BN BLP1509?

I assume "The harem" isn't available, if it's on Musicmasters.

I guess all the Pablo stuff is out on OJC - more OJCs for my list

MG

MG,

No "Bag's Groove" was originally recorded in December 1958 and released on United Artists.

The personnel includes Bags, Art Farmer, Benny Golson, Tommy Flanagan, Paul Chambers and Connie Kay.

Tunes are Ill Wind, Blues For Diahann, Afternoon In paris, I remember Clifford, Thinking Of You, & Whisper Not.

I have long considered this an excellent session.

[marcello]

Statements

Reunion Blues

Cherry

(Turrentine w/ Jackson)

Reverence and Compassion

The Prophet Speaks

Edited October 15, 2007 by marcello

[vibes]

There's nothing about "Invitation" on Amazon UK - just the sleeve. Who's on it?

Kenny Dorham, Virgil Jones- trumpet

Jimmy Heath-tenor

Tommy Flanagan- piano

Ron Carter- bass

Connie Kay-drums

Invitation

Too Close For Comfort

Ruby, My Dear (2 takes)

The Sealer

Poom-A-Loom

Stella By Starlight

Ruby

None Shall Wander (2 takes)

An excellent side, IMHO.

Aha! With Virgil Jones! Zowie!

Thanks.

MG

FYI, Virgil plays on two cuts.

If you buy "Invitation", spend the extra $10-15 and get the Mobile Fidelity version that came out earlier this year. It's wonderful.

[kh1958]

An obvious one, but I see no mention of Bags and Trane.

Also, Milt is on some of the Bird Broadcasts from the Royal Roost, on Savoy.

[brownie]

Another very strong recommendation for the Savoy sessions with Lucky Thompson

Don't overlook the two albums he recorded under his name for Prestige. Both are really excellent!

And a strong case could be made for a Mosaic Select that would have the various albums he recorded under his name for Atlantic!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

His work with Monk -- under Monk's name, under Milt's name, and under Miles Davis's name -- is all essential. Not sure if that is what you are looking for, though.

Guy

Yes!

If this is a ref to the Monk 2LP BN set "The genius of modern music", I've got that. And the Milt BN LP.

MG

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

MG,

I envy you the opportunity to hear for the first time the many delightful Milt Jackson recordings you don't have. Here are quite a few under his leadership that I suspect you will find right up your alley.

Bag's Opus - Blue Note

The Harem - Musicmasters

Brother Jim - Pablo

It Don't Mean A Thing If You Can't Tap Your Foot To It - Pablo

London Bridge - Pablo

Memories Of Thelonious Sphere Monk - Pablo

Mostly Duke - Pablo

None of these have O.P. on them.

Thanks Peter.

Is "Bags opus" a reissue of the material on BN BLP1509?

I assume "The harem" isn't available, if it's on Musicmasters.

I guess all the Pablo stuff is out on OJC - more OJCs for my list

MG

MG,

No "Bag's Groove" was originally recorded in December 1958 and released on United Artists.

The personnel includes Bags, Art Farmer, Benny Golson, Tommy Flanagan, Paul Chambers and Connie Kay.

Tunes are Ill Wind, Blues For Diahann, Afternoon In paris, I remember Clifford, Thinking Of You, & Whisper Not.

I have long considered this an excellent session.

That does look interesting - is it called "Bags opus" or "Bags groove"?

MG