BruceH Posted September 17, 2007 Report Posted September 17, 2007 Yep. I did. I'll say one thing---buying them all one by one made me stop regretting my failure to purchase the Andrew Hill Mosaic. I like having the original album covers and liner notes. Quote
NaturalSoul Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 Grass Roots! That's my favorite Hill, sadly i only own the vinyl copy and don't have the cd version with Jimmy Ponder on the bonus cuts. Still, a real great album that i haven't played in a while. Must pull it out. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) Grass Roots! That's my favorite Hill, sadly i only own the vinyl copy and don't have the cd version with Jimmy Ponder on the bonus cuts. Still, a real great album that i haven't played in a while. Must pull it out. And while I like both, I like the earlier bonus material with Ponder even more than the session that was released. I think Ponder especially, adds a hell of a lot to the date -- and being the only guitar player to grace an Andrew Hill album (at least with Hill as the leader), the session is really a special one in my book. (Doesn't hurt that it has Woody Shaw and Frank Mitchell on it either.) If all you have is the vinyl of Grass Roots, you really should grab a cheap copy of the CD sometime, if ever you have the chance. ESPECIALLY if Grass Roots is your favorite Hill date -- you'll get earlier "prototype" versions of three of the tunes found on the later (released) session, plus two similarly styled tunes that are otherwise unreleased (best as I can remember). Edited September 18, 2007 by Rooster_Ties Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 18, 2007 Report Posted September 18, 2007 That's a good point, RT. I have a Liberty-era vinyl of this (bought it cheap years ago) but would enjoy having those tracks as well. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 Start with the Ping singles (45 or 78). Quote
John L Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 Start with the Ping singles (45 or 78). You mean they are going to be on the next Nessa CD? Quote
AndrewHill Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 Grass Roots! That's my favorite Hill, sadly i only own the vinyl copy and don't have the cd version with Jimmy Ponder on the bonus cuts. Still, a real great album that i haven't played in a while. Must pull it out. And while I like both, I like the earlier bonus material with Ponder even more than the session that was released. I think Ponder especially, adds a hell of a lot to the date -- and being the only guitar player to grace an Andrew Hill album (at least with Hill as the leader), the session is really a special one in my book. (Doesn't hurt that it has Woody Shaw and Frank Mitchell on it either.) If all you have is the vinyl of Grass Roots, you really should grab a cheap copy of the CD sometime, if ever you have the chance. ESPECIALLY if Grass Roots is your favorite Hill date -- you'll get earlier "prototype" versions of three of the tunes found on the later (released) session, plus two similarly styled tunes that are otherwise unreleased (best as I can remember). Huge thumbs up for Grass Roots. I remembering draggin' my feet on this one because this date was advertised as a 'groove' date, which is not the usual Hill bag, but I wisened up and got it before it went out print and Jesus what a great disk! I like Jimmy Ponder's contribution on this one too. Its hard to imagine Hill with a guitar player but Ponder fits like a glove. Can't imagine what those tunes would sound like without Ponder on them. Quote
Niko Posted October 5, 2007 Report Posted October 5, 2007 (edited) ok, same question from me, i have (roughly in the order in which i like them) Lift every voice (clearly favorite so far) Compulsion, Grass Roots Point of Departure Andrew!!! i have the vague impression that i have not yet found my favorite Hill date, though i am reasonably glad about having the ones i have and the only one i really don't get into is Andrew!!!; what do I need next? Edited October 5, 2007 by Niko Quote
sal Posted October 6, 2007 Report Posted October 6, 2007 ok, same question from me, i have (roughly in the order in which i like them) Lift every voice (clearly favorite so far) Compulsion, Grass Roots Point of Departure Andrew!!! i have the vague impression that i have not yet found my favorite Hill date, though i am reasonably glad about having the ones i have and the only one i really don't get into is Andrew!!!; what do I need next? Black Fire and Judgment would be good ones to try next, but eventually you'll want them all. They are that good, and they all get better with time/repeated listens. Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 6, 2007 Report Posted October 6, 2007 ok, same question from me, i have (roughly in the order in which i like them) Lift every voice (clearly favorite so far) Compulsion, Grass Roots Point of Departure Andrew!!! i have the vague impression that i have not yet found my favorite Hill date, though i am reasonably glad about having the ones i have and the only one i really don't get into is Andrew!!!; what do I need next? Black Fire and Judgment would be good ones to try next, but eventually you'll want them all. They are that good, and they all get better with time/repeated listens. I second Sal's recommendation -- Black Fire and Judgment are the next ones to get. Guy Quote
Niko Posted October 6, 2007 Report Posted October 6, 2007 ah, thank you, Judgement... although i said i dislike Andrew!!! - interesting and i will take that serious because I've loved Hutcherson on all the other records i have him on.. Quote
king ubu Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 (edited) Smokestack, too! This and Judgement may in the end by my favourites! (with Point of Departure running close third) edited to correct the album's title (thought it was "Smoke Stack"...) Edited October 9, 2007 by king ubu Quote
sal Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 Smokestack is one of my favorite Hill recordings....a unique gem in not only his recorded legacy, but in all of recorded jazz. However, I usually don't recommend it to people who are still "on the fence" with regards to Hill's music. It seems to be a great next step once you're bitten by the bug! Quote
king ubu Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 Smokestack is one of my favorite Hill recordings....a unique gem in not only his recorded legacy, but in all of recorded jazz. However, I usually don't recommend it to people who are still "on the fence" with regards to Hill's music. It seems to be a great next step once you're bitten by the bug! well, I jumped in head first, getting the Mosaic, after having known but "Spiral" (a so-so album on Freedom, with Ted Curson, Lee Konitz and others in various settings) - I then proceeded listening to all of it chronologically, and love the twin basses and the extremely sharp and smart drumming of Hayes a lot... however, I loved stuff like "Out to Lunch" for a long time before, so I was used to some "odd" sounds... Quote
Niko Posted October 9, 2007 Report Posted October 9, 2007 would have tried Dance with Death or Passing Ships next otherwise, but will go for Judgement then... Quote
sjarrell Posted October 10, 2007 Report Posted October 10, 2007 My two cents: Passing Ships, Black Fire (Henderson!), Grass Roots (Mogie and Booker Ervin!), Dance w/ Death. Quote
Coda Posted November 8, 2024 Report Posted November 8, 2024 I am shocked that no one mentioned Dusk. Quote
Guy Berger Posted November 9, 2024 Report Posted November 9, 2024 9 hours ago, Coda said: I am shocked that no one mentioned Dusk. Dusk holds up really well, I’d say it’s my favorite post-1970 Hill that I’ve heard. Quote
soulpope Posted November 9, 2024 Report Posted November 9, 2024 20 minutes ago, BFrank said: Agree about Dusk 👍 Same here .... Quote
Holy Ghost Posted November 30, 2024 Report Posted November 30, 2024 Any Hill Blue Note. I start with the out-the-gate four albums released in 1964? (weren't Wolff and Lion just as excited about Hill at the time?) Some dates grow on you, but others take some time, but I'm so glad to have them all. BTW, I like Andrew!!! Summary, at BN alone, wow! That BN allowed him to record so much music, and then we get Passing Ships as a gift? And then some? Priceless. Quote
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