Alexander Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Posted October 3, 2007 (NOTE - I could have sworn you said "I don't tell people what they SHOULD believe, I just tell them what I believe. I would never presume to tell you that you cannot or should not believe in God if that is your personal choice" earlier in this thread - doesn't that contradict what you're now saying again?) I don't think so, no. Declaring faith irrational is (again) telling you what I think and what I believe, not telling you what you SHOULD think or believe. I certainly would never claim that I am somehow a member of some elect group that will get cash and prizes while the rest of you languish in agony. Ironically enough, that's exactly what is implied when a person claims Jesus as his/her personal savior ("I'm going to heaven, you're going to hell"). I believe that the same fate awaits the believer and non-believer alike: Nothing. Look, you say that belief is a personal choice, and you're right. Bopping yourself on the head with a hammer is a personal choice too, but I don't think anyone would take umbridge if I said, "You know, bopping yourself on the head with a hammer is a pretty silly thing to do. You might hurt yourself." All I'm saying is that I think that believing in a Magic Invisible Man who take care of you to be a very silly thing indeed. And I think, personally, that believing in silly things will do more harm than good in the end (it was, after all, fervant believers who carried out the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, the 9/11 attacks, etc.). I believe that religion is bad for mankind. Think about it. During ancient Greece and Rome we had great advances in the sciences and the humanities. Then we had a thousand years (a THOUSAND YEARS...think about that) of dominion by the Catholic church during which absolutely DICK got done. In fact, people FORGOT HOW TO DRAW IN PERSPECTIVE. How fucked up is that? After a THOUSAND years, people started throwing off the church's silly rules ("Don't point telescopes at the sky. Don't cut up cadavers to see how the body works. God doesn't like that"), and what happens? A REBIRTH of culture. Doesn't that tell you something? Yeah, yeah...the Bible provided all sorts of cool subjects for paintings and sculptures during the Renaissance, but the church did far, far more to HINDER mankind's advancement than it has to help it along. I don't know. It seems like the personal comfort of a few people kind of pales next to a THOUSAND YEARS of ignorance and cultural stagnation. Maybe that's just me. As for George Cables thing...look, I CAN'T pray because I don't believe that there's anything to which to pray. But that doesn't mean that I wish the guy ill. I really do hope gets better. Unlike those who believe in the power of prayer, I don't think that my good wishes actually cause things to happen. I just hope he's not an amputee. God hates amputees, you know. Quote
JSngry Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 You got to fight for your right to party. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 This attempt at "communication" is rather ill... Quote
analogak Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Po_rehMqrno i used to like that video more when i was in middle school...i guess now i have more appreciation for the original source of inspiration... Quote
analogak Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 but i still think it is sweet, don't get me wrong. but didn't bring back the same thrill. Quote
Achtung Dr. Freud Calling Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 Bopping yourself on the head with a hammer is a personal choice too, but I don't think anyone would take umbridge if I said, "You know, bopping yourself on the head with a hammer is a pretty silly thing to do. You might hurt yourself." Oh I'd take umbrage allright matey!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvB1nUURezA Quote
Alexander Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Posted October 4, 2007 2) who of ya'll want to live in a world where you never got to fuck (ex-) Catholic girls (or boys)? Hey man, my wife is an ex-Catholic girl! I've got NO problem with ex-Catholic girls! Quote
Elissa Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) jesus-- so to speak-- ya'll still on this? let's end it: 1) beastie boys of licensed to ill & paul's boutique: important, innovative (some argue the former presaged gangsta rap in every important way tho' i wouldn't swear on a stack of Schooly-D records that's true), more or less deathless AND... if they had perished afterwards, the world of music would not be ONE iota poorer, a few laughs in "Grand Royal" magazine excepted. I remember being hooked in what? 1985 I guess when I heard a cassette tape of a roof party where Public Enemy was playing. In contradistinction, the appeal of the Beasties has always eluded me. Edited November 2, 2007 by Elissa Quote
btownsurvivor Posted November 17, 2007 Report Posted November 17, 2007 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Po_rehMqrno i used to like that video more when i was in middle school...i guess now i have more appreciation for the original source of inspiration... I just heard it for the first time and I like it a lot. Quote
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