alocispepraluger102 Posted August 8, 2007 Report Posted August 8, 2007 Competing plans for San Fran skyscraper Tue Aug 7, 4:15 PM ET Architects unveiled three competing plans for a new downtown skyscraper and transit hub that would be the West Coast's tallest building. "Today is an historic day," Mayor Gavin Newsom said as he pulled away a black cloth covering the three elaborate models at a City Hall ceremony Monday. The three designs range in height from 1,200 feet to 1,375 feet — each much taller than the 853-foot Transamerica Pyramid, currently San Francisco's tallest building. At 1,018 feet, the U.S. Bank Tower in downtown Los Angeles is now the West Coast's tallest building. Each tower design tops a transit terminal that would become the Bay Area's regional transportation hub, with plans calling for bus service, commuter rail, and eventually high-speed rail. The designs also emphasize environmental sustainability, with such design elements as rooftop wind turbines that would generate power for the complex. A jury that includes architects, engineers and a transportation expert will recommend a winning design later this month to the Transbay Joint Powers Authority, a regional agency created in 2001 to oversee the construction of the new transit terminal. The authority is expected to name a winner in September and the transit station is slated to open by 2014. ___ Information from: San Francisco Chronicle, http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle Quote
MoGrubb Posted August 8, 2007 Report Posted August 8, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. Quote
Unk Posted August 9, 2007 Report Posted August 9, 2007 North Carolina? Don't y'all have some natural disaster hazards of your own? No offense intended, but it does amaze me how frightened by earthquakes people who live in non-earthquake zones are, and how indifferent people who experience earthquakes regularly are. My favorite 'jab' toward tourists in California is to say "Now THIS is earthquake weather!" Quote
MoGrubb Posted August 9, 2007 Report Posted August 9, 2007 North Carolina? Don't y'all have some natural disaster hazards of your own? .... Point taken. I take it building on a mudslide prone mountain is sorta a status symbol much like living on/having lake front property(?). From what I hear mudslides are a pretty regular event. Hurricanes not so much in my immediate area, not even if you live in a flood zone. Of course insurance companies and news shows will have you believe differently. Personally, I wouldn't live in a flood zone (on rivers, some lakes) because I'd pay out the nose for insurance. Quote
BruceH Posted August 9, 2007 Report Posted August 9, 2007 They've been putting up new skyscrapers in this town like they're going out of business, but THIS proposal takes the cake. The thought of it makes me want to vomit. Quote
RDK Posted August 9, 2007 Report Posted August 9, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Quote
Unk Posted August 9, 2007 Report Posted August 9, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Report Posted August 9, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. having a home burn, losing a spouse or child, or a divorce. how on earth does one survive such and continue living? Quote
Aggie87 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. having a home burn, losing a spouse or child, or a divorce. how on earth does one survive such and continue living? Is your question serious? Do you really consider those things equal? I'm divorced, as are other board members, and have survived and continued living. I don't consider that anywhere close to the same thing as losing a child or spouse. Losing a child or your spouse must be about the hardest thing anyone could go through. A divorce is definitely traumatic and life altering, but I still don't think it's the same. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. having a home burn, losing a spouse or child, or a divorce. how on earth does one survive such and continue living? Is your question serious? Do you really consider those things equal? I'm divorced, as are other board members, and have survived and continued living. I don't consider that anywhere close to the same thing as losing a child or spouse. Losing a child or your spouse must be about the hardest thing anyone could go through. A divorce is definitely traumatic and life altering, but I still don't think it's the same. having not experienced divorce personally, i really dont know about its psychological impact, but i would expect it to be a severe blow. i am twice a widower. Edited August 10, 2007 by alocispepraluger102 Quote
MoGrubb Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. Geez...you can't win for losing. Quote
catesta Posted August 13, 2007 Report Posted August 13, 2007 new skyscraper planned in san francisco, earthquake proof i'm sure Not surprising, this from folks that build houses on the side of mountains prone to mudslides to boot. The insurance premiums must be astronomical. If built correctly, the mudslide should have no affect on a house's foundation. My house is built on a hillside (though not with those frightening pillars - they scare even me!) but it's built on concrete pilings that go down 40 feet into the bedrock. It's rock and not "mud," of course, but even if the hillside that our house was built on were to wash away, the house would still be standing on its foundation supports. Exactly what happened to my old house...before it burned in the Oakland Hills fire. having a home burn, losing a spouse or child, or a divorce. how on earth does one survive such and continue living? Is your question serious? Do you really consider those things equal? I'm divorced, as are other board members, and have survived and continued living. I don't consider that anywhere close to the same thing as losing a child or spouse. Losing a child or your spouse must be about the hardest thing anyone could go through. A divorce is definitely traumatic and life altering, but I still don't think it's the same. having not experienced divorce personally, i really dont know about its psychological impact, but i would expect it to be a severe blow. i am twice a widower. I guess a divorce for some could be severe blow. For me, it was just a major pain in the ass and I'm over it. Quote
catesta Posted August 13, 2007 Report Posted August 13, 2007 They've been putting up new skyscrapers in this town like they're going out of business, but THIS proposal takes the cake. The thought of it makes me want to vomit. Will the market in San Francisco really support this much construction? Quote
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